[Only Sane Man]

I don't expect true conservatives have any difficulty with an integrity test; presumably arguments relying upon the bogus study are already being retracted.

[reaganaut]

I don’t care about the study in the least. I have personal experience and know several homosexuals who have changed and gone on to lead happily straight lives.

Oh and IBTZ, troll.

[Godzilla]

[DBeers]

I don't expect true conservatives have any difficulty with an integrity test; presumably arguments relying upon the bogus study are already being retracted.

His reason for retraction had nothing to do with the veracity of the study. Further the only thing he stated regarding the study was "the critiques [of my study] are largely correct" and "The findings can be considered evidence for what those who have undergone ex-gay therapy say about it, but nothing more."

I suspect he was simply sick and tired of getting harassed, (RE: retraction: "So I don't have to worry about it anymore"), by the butt rangers and their useful idiots.

-from the article

"In retrospect, I have to admit I think the critiques [of my study] are largely correct," Dr. Spitzer told the American Prospect in an article by Gabriel Arana titled, My So Called Ex-Gay Life. "The findings can be considered evidence for what those who have undergone ex-gay therapy say about it, but nothing more." Spitzer asked for a retraction of his 2001 study, "So I don't have to worry about it anymore?"

In summary The arguments remain -homosexuality is an intrinsic disorder and homosexual sex is self destructive, of no benefit to society, and noting to be promoted -I am not drinking the leftist koolaid you are serving up.

[Waryone]

You can go back to Mitt’s campaign now. IBTZ

[TBP]

Who needs a study? We have the experience and testimony of the ex-gays themselves.

[TBP]

Anne Heche has changed orientations at least twice that I know of.

[Absolutely Nobama]

Want truth, n00b ? Ok, fine. If you insist:

“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” -—Leviticus 18:22

God says homosexuality is evil. I know this sounds all Crazytown, but I’ll go with His stance on the matter before I go with yours.

IBTZ!

[scripter]

Dr Spitzer feared for his safety after proclaiming gays could change. In fact he feared for his safety so much he quit speaking about it. That's on the record, somewhere here on FR.

Science still doesn't support the born that way theory. So with science against Spitzer and his personal safety an issue, I wonder where the truth lies with this article.

[stylin19a]

two words

Anne Heche

[Bellflower]

What people forget is that Christianity is about dying to oneself and living for God, picking up your cross daily and walking with Jesus. It doesn't matter whether you were a promiscuous heterosexual, or a homosexual, or what your sin was, or how much a part of you that you think it is. It doesn't matter because if you are a Christian you have been crucified with Christ, so the you with all of your evilness and sinful desires are dead. You have also been risen up as a new and forgiven person with Christ Jesus with power over sin.

The first thing you must do is become convinced of the truth of the the fact that God's will truly is best for you and everyone that you may influence, and also that He is LORD, and you must therefore make a commitment to follow Him. Then you master the ability to run your life according to the will of God and not the dictates of your body, soul, or the voices of others. You must begin to live your life by what you know is right, by using the volition of your will power, which God strengthens the more you give it over to Him. It is through purposefully, with all of your strength, mind and heart, willing yourself to choose to do what is right, and allowing the Holy Spirit to live through you, that you will live your life free from the power of sin. You will either be led by your flesh, following it's life draining and destructive demands, or you will learn to be led by The Spirit, to the glory of God unto life. So you see it doesn't matter what your flesh wants or thinks, because it is DEAD with Christ. Since it is dead, and you are alive, you must stop foolishly listening to it and being it's slave, but rather live, by the power of The Holy Spirit, for The LORD Jesus Christ, who loves you and gave Himself for you.

Our culture has brainwashed us into believing that we are slaves to our bodies and our desires. We are not slaves to our fleshly desires, but we are to be slaves to Christ. When we trust The LORD and use our will power, which He has given us, to do His good will, The Holy Spirit will be there to give us the strength and ability to carry out the will of God. We have to stop believing in ourselves and who we think that we are, good or bad, as the guiding force of our lives. We must start believing in God, doing His will, and letting His Spirit live through us to accomplish His will. Then we will find out that it doesn't matter what our sins and evil leaning may have been, because they are dead and we live unto God.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.

Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.