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Obesity is a Bigger Threat to Health Care Than Obamacare
Yahoo ^ | 4/15/12 | Roy A. Barnes

Posted on 04/15/2012 5:08:01 PM PDT by Libloather

Obesity is a Bigger Threat to Health Care Than Obamacare
By Roy A. Barnes | Yahoo! Contributor Network – 10 hrs ago

COMMENTARY | HealthDay News reported Friday on a Mayo Clinic employees/retirees study showing obese people are more responsible for health care costs annually per person than normal weight people by $1,850, and $5,500 more if they're morbidly obese. Furthermore, 20.6 percent of health care costs are due to obesity, or $190.2 billion annually, according to Cornell University research also reported by HealthDay News.

TV and other media pundits can rant and rave about the costs of Obamacare, but while they do that, I've never heard them specifically factor in the above costs that are due to obesity, nor the indirect costs. The anti-Obamacare people need to realize obesity is a bigger threat to the health care system than the president's health care plan.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commiecare; healthcare; obamacare; obesity
Obesity allows you to live the way you want - Commiecare™ doesn't.
1 posted on 04/15/2012 5:08:12 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

obamacare is obesity-in-statute.


2 posted on 04/15/2012 5:09:23 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: Libloather

Obesity is a choice.
Obamacare is a violation of the 10th amendment. (That is in the Constitution, by the way, “yahoo!”, the same document that gives you the freedom to publish this pile of crap)

Obamacare is the danger, not obesity.


3 posted on 04/15/2012 5:11:23 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Libloather
You can't make people be skinny, but this country does have a problem. I've been going to my kid's soccer practice and have been shocked. It is a pretty low intensity soccer league, but I swear some of these kids haven't ever run or kicked a ball. A couple of them are at least 30 lbs. overweight.

When I was a kid we had two or three of those is a school, now a good 20% of every class is that fat.

4 posted on 04/15/2012 5:12:40 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Libloather

Uh Oh...the food stamp and welfare regulars better watch out..../s


5 posted on 04/15/2012 5:13:45 PM PDT by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: SoFloFreeper

The greater irony is that most cases of obesity (discounting, for instance, thyroid problems) are due to personal health-related choices: I choose to eat potato chips instead of getting off the computer and cooking a healthy meal, or instead of going outside for a walk. Obamacare makes the state your own “private” health supervisor/enforcer, thereby removing that choice. It would not surprise me at all to see Obamacare mandate certain target weights, body mass indices, etc, and punish those who can’t hack it.


6 posted on 04/15/2012 5:16:14 PM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Libloather

We need a gummint program that pays people to lose weight. </sarc>


7 posted on 04/15/2012 5:17:26 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Libloather

Go on a diet or st*u


8 posted on 04/15/2012 5:21:56 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: sthguard
The greater irony is that most cases of obesity (discounting, for instance, thyroid problems) are due to personal health-related choices: I choose to eat potato chips instead of getting off the computer and cooking a healthy meal, or instead of going outside for a walk. Obamacare makes the state your own “private” health supervisor/enforcer, thereby removing that choice. It would not surprise me at all to see Obamacare mandate certain target weights, body mass indices, etc, and punish those who can’t hack it.

Choice: that IS the problem with obesity, as it is with drugs, booze, candy, couch potato-ism.
MOST human beings take the LOW road, the EASY path, the path of LEAST resistance. They all know better. Obese people often stay home because they WEAR their gluttony and sloth--with their XXXlarge size.

Side note: My husband and I were in a Walmart type store in Hawaii, the big island. We were looking for big Hawaiian shirts for him: XX.
At the rack for the X sizes there were twoX to EIGHT X. There are some big boys over there.

9 posted on 04/15/2012 5:25:51 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Libloather
Not to worry. If the individual mandate is upheld, the government will have all the authority it needs to dictate what you can and cannot eat since %20 of all healthcare costs are due to obesity.

Unfortunately, this is not sarcasm, but a simple prediction of our near future if we allow our government to continue on its present course.

10 posted on 04/15/2012 5:27:35 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: USNBandit

Obesity is an enormous problem, leading to things such as heart disease and diabetes. Our healthcare costs could be reduced dramatically if people would stop stuffing their faces with junk and actually get off their butts to exercise. Yes, our freedom gives us the right to be obese, but the costs are staggering. I think people should get a price break on insurance if they are in shape and taking care of themselves.


11 posted on 04/15/2012 5:31:34 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Libloather
we pay a lot of them sit sit home on welfare and eat themselves into obesity, then we have pay for them to have expensive bariatric surgery to lose the weight... go figure
12 posted on 04/15/2012 5:31:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: USNBandit
When I was a kid we had two or three of those is a school, now a good 20% of every class is that fat.

I agree. If I was a 20 year old now, I'd have to be a chubby chaser unless I wanted to go without. When I got out of HS in 1970, there were very few genuinely overweight girls. I don't mean they were all hot and curvy, just of a much more appropriate weight. I liked skinny girls then, I'd be pretty lonely on Saturday night now if I was 20.

Still, it's not the gubbermint's business. People want to waddle around and eat themselves into an early grave, it's their right. Not a privilege, a right.

13 posted on 04/15/2012 5:35:04 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: doug from upland
I think people should get a price break on insurance if they are in shape and taking care of themselves.

If the government would get it's intrusive and always clumsy nose out of people's private business, insurance companies could offer you, and others, exactly that break. Others like me, probably would not qualify, but we might opt for a very high annual out-of-pocket so that the insurance would only kick in only in case of catastrophe, but would give clients the benefit of the insurance companies negotiated rates with doctors and hospitals. Everything that could be done most likely would be done it the government would simply butt out.

14 posted on 04/15/2012 5:36:54 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: goodnesswins

CUT food stamp allowances by 75%.

I spend out of my pocket, and survive fine, only about 1/4 of what is given in food stamps each week.

WASTE NUMBER ONE.


15 posted on 04/15/2012 5:37:34 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: USNBandit

Obese kids comes from having no place to play after school. Instead, the veg out inside like inmates in a jail cell.


16 posted on 04/15/2012 5:43:29 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Chode

“we pay a lot of them sit sit home on welfare and eat themselves into obesity”

Surely you are mistaken. Those unfortunates live in a food desert. I know because Michelle told me so.


17 posted on 04/15/2012 5:46:29 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: jonrick46

Well in certain neghiborhood in Los Angeles majority of the kids come home and play X-box and be couch pototo it too dangerous be on the front yard you get shot


18 posted on 04/15/2012 5:51:33 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: achilles2000

In South LA there is fast food places in every block no farmer market who fault is that

CITY OF LA with high taxes no supermarket want be there in City of LA because of high property taxes also


19 posted on 04/15/2012 5:52:59 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Libloather
This kind of freedom is making the nation's health care system go bust.

Here's the jist of the article, It's freedom that is bankrupting our healthcare system.

20 posted on 04/15/2012 5:59:34 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind;)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Libloather.

Partisan Media Shills ping.


21 posted on 04/15/2012 6:01:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Libloather

So, the anit-Obamacare “ranters” haven’t been ranting about obesity, hey? Ergo, ObamaCare (TM) must be good, right? Wonderful logic, me thinks.

Well, the “ranters” haven’t been ranting about sedentaryness, tobacco smoking, alcohol consumption, junk food and sugar consumption or drug abuse either, all of which are also major contributors to poor health and health care costs. I guess the lack of ranting about these problems are even reasons ObamaCare (TM) is a wonderful thing, right?


22 posted on 04/15/2012 6:02:05 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: achilles2000
you're right, what was i thinking???
23 posted on 04/15/2012 6:05:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Libloather

Obesity doesn’t tyrannically dictate every aspect of your very soul and being.


24 posted on 04/15/2012 6:17:09 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Chode

You know what I hate

California has new commerical called California for Change it obesity program that try gulit trip parents do something about their kids they want public pay for it I am serious I think you could find the commerical on YOU TUBE IN English and Spanish some of the commerical is totally Nannystate


25 posted on 04/15/2012 6:18:36 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Libloather

Obamacare/Totalitariancare: an internal threat to “freedom” - the likes of which our country has never seen before. The fundamental transformation of our republic into an authoritarian dictatorship.


26 posted on 04/15/2012 6:25:11 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Libloather

“HealthDay News reported Friday on a Mayo Clinic employees/retirees study”

What is the data-evidence that results of the study were adjusted for the demographic differences between the obese Mayo Clinic employees and retirees versus the nation’s obese, or that the cost data of the Mayo Clinic health plan were adjusted for their differences with national costs in the general population?

To answer my own question - none, I imagine. Which makes the Mayo Clinc’s interpretation of what their study says about Obamacare suspect.

We cannot forget that the Mayo Clinic and its people were some of the first jumping on the Obamacase bandwagon.


27 posted on 04/15/2012 6:26:53 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Libloather

This propoganda piece falls right in line with Moochell’s Food Nazi program.


28 posted on 04/15/2012 6:27:13 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Kill commie-care for Mommie)
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To: SevenofNine

Here there is two fast food places in every block and no farmer market either. There be no buses neither, but we find supermarket and buy food. I can eat at fast food and not get fat too. Just don’t eat too much or only fried stuff.


29 posted on 04/15/2012 6:32:45 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: John Valentine

Yes, this should be private enterprise setting the market for insurance. I pay lower auto insurance than some others because of no tickets or accidents. I want that benefit so I drive carefully. In health insurance, I want the benefit of lower premiums because I try to take care of myself.


30 posted on 04/15/2012 6:34:19 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Libloather

You just watch and see how they hype up “Obesity” and use it as a mechanism to control what everyone eats, whether they are obese or not.


31 posted on 04/15/2012 6:36:11 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Libloather

The dangerous ones here are the Feds and ObamaCare


32 posted on 04/15/2012 6:56:22 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: SevenofNine
it never ends...
33 posted on 04/15/2012 7:07:29 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Libloather

>>Obesity allows you to live the way you want

Hmmm. People “want” to live with an oxygen tube up their nose whilst wheezing along on a battery powered cart in the Ice Cream aisle?

Ok.

Obamacare sure doesn’t appear to be having a positive impact on (or at least a reduction in) certain members of the obesity of The One’s primary constituency:

“New Black Panther Party chief of staff Michelle Williams talks with 10 News reporter Melanie Michael.”
http://www.wtsp.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=1557353015001

Maybe it’s all the “Free” pie?


34 posted on 04/15/2012 7:19:02 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Libloather

ObamaCare will not fix obesity but will cost more not to fix it.


35 posted on 04/15/2012 7:41:27 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Libloather
obese people are more responsible for health care costs annually per person than normal weight people

Hey, how about we return to a model in which every adult is personally responsible for his or her own health care and health insurance? That way, obesity quickly reduces to a personal issue which is no one else's business. Problem solved.
36 posted on 04/15/2012 8:49:34 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Libloather
These stories disgust me because they're based on horse hockey. I pay a hefty health care insurance premium every month yet it's been for-e-ver since I hauled my fat rear to the doctor. The last time they charged me $600 for basically nothing. I found out I could have bought the medicine they gave me at Walgreens for $1. Don't blame me for using up precious medical service. Instead the smokers and hypochondriacs should be thanking me for paying for them.
37 posted on 04/15/2012 8:56:01 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Libloather

Obesity is nothing more than a word.

Leftists love to play with words; especially words that have no objective meaning.


38 posted on 04/15/2012 9:04:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: SevenofNine

The illegal drug industry has made our children prisoners in their own homes. When I was a kid, we had rocks and knew how to hit a chipmunk from 60 ft away. We were climbing trees to see who could climb the tallest tree and sliding down the branches from 30 feet up—it was quite the ride. We dug tunnels six feet deep and 20 ft long, tree forts to have a view, built buggies to go down the street with the hill and built wings for our bicycles to fly in the air. We swung on ropes from the highest branch of an old Magnolia tree and played football in the back yard with ten of the neighborhood kids—girls included. There was just cigarettes and alcohol and three channels of TV. No drug pushers (we would have treated them with one of our rocks). But when our mothers called us in for dinner, we all said “Oh no!” It was time to go indoors and we just hated it when our fun had to end.

Now the kids are safe and fat and don’t know how to throw a decent rock.


39 posted on 04/15/2012 9:04:32 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: USNBandit

Good, they’ll live longer.


40 posted on 04/15/2012 9:06:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: doug from upland

>> “Obesity is an enormous problem, leading to things such as heart disease and diabetes.” <<

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Wrong!

Diabetes (type II) causes ‘obesity’ heart disease, and cancer.

‘Obesity’ and heart disease are symptoms, not diseases themselves.

Type II diabetes is mostly caused by un-natural oils, such as margarine, shortening, and most poly unsaturated oils. If you wouldn’t eat the seed that an oil comes from, don’t use it. http://www.cancertutor.com/Diabetes/Diabetes_Type_II.htm
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41 posted on 04/15/2012 9:13:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Speaking of “chubby’s”....have you noticed that they also wear clothing that clings so every roll shows? Was in a furniture store today, and one of the employees was a woman, probably in her late 20’s....nice face...but, sheesh, dressed like she was 30 lbs lighter. I’m embarrassed for these types...but, they sure don’t seem to be....


42 posted on 04/15/2012 9:43:06 PM PDT by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: Libloather
Judging from my personal experience responding to emergency medical calls I would guess that the percentage of health care costs related to obesity is significantly higher than 20%. It is a little hard to believe that Moochelle has hijacked this fact and somehow politicized it.

It is simple to understand why Americans keep getting fatter... we have increasingly sedentary life styles and readily available high calorie convenience foods. This trend is going to continue... The only way the government is going to have any effect on it is if they screw the economy so badly that there is a shortage of food. I don't doubt that four more years of Obama could put us on that road.

Just about everyone knows from common sense alone... the truth about the health risks of being too fat and not getting enough exercise. Most people have jobs that have almost no physical activity. We love to eat and sit around in front of our computers, and televisions, and we love other sedentary forms of entertainment as well. 99 times out of 100, just about everyone would be better off eating right and exercising regularly than making regular trips to the doctor. Going to the doctor regularly does very little to increase your health or longevity.

43 posted on 04/15/2012 10:39:58 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Libloather
I've never heard them specifically factor in the above costs that are due to obesity, nor the indirect costs

Of course not, fool. A diabetes "epidemic" is exactly what Obama needs and wants.

Those are Obama's "peeps" -- his primary recipients and public relations resource.

44 posted on 04/15/2012 11:01:32 PM PDT by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: Libloather
Obesity is a matter for parents to educate their children:
Whereas “Obamacare” is a violation of the Constitution.
45 posted on 04/16/2012 8:49:20 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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