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George Zimmerman case could hit 2012 presidential race
The Politico ^ | April 13, 2012 | M.J. Lee

Posted on 04/13/2012 1:15:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Could George Zimmerman be the October surprise?

Depending on the timing of legal developments in Florida, the court proceedings and possible trial of Trayvon Martin’s killer - one of the highest-profile and most racially charged cases in years - could be thrust into the middle of the 2012 presidential election.

Legal experts and political consultants disagree over what that would mean for President Barack Obama and the presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

In recent press appearances, Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, predicted that it would be at least six months and possibly as long as a year before his client faces a trial. The short end of that would put the case smack in the homestretch of the White House contest, while the long end would make the trial a non-factor in the presidential contest.

But there’s another scenario that makes it more likely that the case could play into the 2012 race.

Under the so-called “Stand Your Ground” law in Florida — the controversial measure that until this week had allowed Zimmerman to avoid an arrest after the Feb.26 shooting in Sanford – the accused can ask for an “evidentiary hearing” to try to have their case tossed out. That hearing could take place within a matter of months...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; obama; romney; travon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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I will laugh my big ol' butt off if he's exonerated at the evidentiary hearing or even before. Good luck controlling those riots, Barry.
1 posted on 04/13/2012 1:15:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

According to Dershowitz, the judge could very well toss the case.


2 posted on 04/13/2012 1:19:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The journ-o-listers are beginning to sense that this case may turn out to be more like the OJ Simpson case where in the end only the black demographic believes the narrative.

My guess is the drive-by media will make a collective decision to bury the case sometime soon.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 1:22:16 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If its politico disregard.


4 posted on 04/13/2012 1:23:04 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...could be thrust into the middle of the 2012 presidential election.

Could be? That's the whole point of it.

5 posted on 04/13/2012 1:24:12 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I’m starting to think that’s why he was charged with 2nd degree murder, rather than manslaughter or some such. There’s no way in hell they can get a conviction on 2nd degree unless there’s a lot we don’t know about what happened that night.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 1:24:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be nice if every article about this case referred to George Zimmerman as Democrat George Zimmermam


7 posted on 04/13/2012 1:25:17 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Good luck controlling those riots, Barry.”

And they WILL happen - the race pimps have way too much capital tied up in this case.

Interesting to speculate about how the “spontaneous wealth redistribution initiatives” (read: looting) and “street justice demonstrations” (read: beatings and murders of non-blacks) will bear on the upcoming election.

Hmm...


8 posted on 04/13/2012 1:26:31 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Polling is showing that GOP voters are not interested in this case. They are not buying this distraction while gas prices are through the roof and the economy sucks. The only ones who care are the usual Obummer supporters who think Wonder Bread is inherently racist because of its color. I don’t think this thing will matter a hill of beans in the election as hard as the Rats try to make it matter.


9 posted on 04/13/2012 1:26:53 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Under the so-called “Stand Your Ground” law in Florida — the controversial measure that until this week had allowed Zimmerman to avoid an arrest after the Feb.26 shooting in Sanford...

LOL, liberals are so freaking pathetic. They want to kill Stand Your Ground, so what do they do? They pick a case where the victim was flat on his back being beaten to death, and shot his attacker precisely because he COULDN'T stand his ground.

LOL, what a bunch of clowns!

10 posted on 04/13/2012 1:27:10 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: boomop1

10-4


11 posted on 04/13/2012 1:27:10 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Meet the New Boss

Agreed. This case can only be a loser for Obama. Another Crowley-Gates. Obama will rue the statement that Martin could have been his son.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 1:27:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

COULD hit it? OMG that is the WHOLE IDEA of this charade...!

A very similar case exists in Calif, yet NO ONE knows of it. Why? Cuz California is NOT a huge swing state, and the libs know the Muslim Bisexual is weak in the polls, so the EstablishmentMediaMachine has to help him starting NOW.

THIS IS ALL OBAMA 2012 PREP WORK.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 1:27:46 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have watched enough court drama on TV to know that the judge instructs the jury to convict on the count OR LESSER CHARGES. Could this happen here? If its an October surprise I hope it bites Obummer’s ass.


14 posted on 04/13/2012 1:28:58 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: boomop1

Maybe Democrat George Zimmerman was part of Eric Holder’s Floridian Gunrunner project. How do we know he was not paid to do what he did? You know, to prove a point that guns should be illegal and also create chaos during the election year so that the American people will just not have the desire to change administrations in the middle of such a mess. Besides, it will look better if we keep a black man as our leader during the race riots.


15 posted on 04/13/2012 1:29:10 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Or Democratic Hispanic mortgage employee George Zimmerman.


16 posted on 04/13/2012 1:33:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: MarineDad

Keep an eye on Sharpton and Jackson. They hustled down to Duke University pretty quickly when the hatred of the lacrosse team had come to full voice, but they very quietly slinked away with their hands in their pockets when it started to become clear to everybody (not just us FReepers) that there was no case.

I’m not saying there’s no case here — I’m saying that the race hustlers won’t go out on a limb if it starts to look like the case against Zimmerman is a loser.


17 posted on 04/13/2012 1:33:40 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Meet the New Boss

That’s probably going to be the case.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 1:33:57 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why will this case be an issue, even if it does go to trial though it shouldn’t? The nominees from both parties are likely to be in total agreement about the case — on the wrong side, of course.

Bonzo & Mittens can get together at a debate and have a Kum-bay-ya moment. Won’t that be wonderful?


19 posted on 04/13/2012 1:34:05 PM PDT by PermaRag (the stock market will stop bleeding when those who manipulate it START bleeding)
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To: gaijin

1. If convicted - It will help energize Florida blacks 4 Obama

2. If tossed - It supplies ammo for “White hatred resulted in this case being tossed, and THAT is also why they tossed our super smart, black POTUS...” So it makes a face-saving excuse.

3. If exonerated - Same as above.

Why didn’t they go for manslaughter? Cuz they’re going for either the Hail Mary, or they WANT it to be tossed.

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE **ELECTION**.


20 posted on 04/13/2012 1:34:05 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
George Zimmerman case could hit 2012 presidential race

No matter the outcome..

you bet the White House wants to make it a part, and so do the the aged 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus spoiled brats and their bratty ideological issue, arguably the Establishment.

Obama been laudin' that black theology of liberation and revolution.. it's now or never.

For fifty years their control of the media has given us what I call NBC-style "cherry bomb" journalism and things seem ready to explode.. and the president himself is the biological-ideological issue of 1960s Marist-Alinsky campus spoiled brats.

So here they are.. Obama-and-sons' America.. it's now or never for them.

21 posted on 04/13/2012 1:34:05 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: New Jersey Realist

The “lesser charges” must already be there for the jury to consider. I think manslaughter is not on the list here; it’s just the one count.


22 posted on 04/13/2012 1:35:58 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2DV, I don’t think he will try to control the riots per se. He might try to DIRECT them to some as yet unconfirmed goal.

Whatever it is, it is most certainly a bad, bad thing for our nation.

But I don’t expect a mission change from this administration...


23 posted on 04/13/2012 1:36:05 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there was a lot more, it should have been in the complaint, right?

That is one of Dersh’s points.


24 posted on 04/13/2012 1:37:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Well that’s too bad because this is about gun grabbing as well and trying to knock down many “Stand your ground” laws.


25 posted on 04/13/2012 1:37:18 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Firstly, it’s already part of the presidential race, duh. Secondly, no, it can’t be the “October surprise,” because it wouldn’t be a surprise since we know it’s coming, duh. Also, and more importantly, the “surprise” isn’t a surprise to everyone. It gets leaked, blown up, or what have you on purpose.

The only way this could fit would be for some secret piece of evidence to pop up come October, but I doubt that. The prosecutor could drop the charges suddenly, but that wouldn’t help Obama, so no. I’d like to think hacks looking for website hits would think these things through at least as thoroughly as the few seconds I’ve given them. But no.


26 posted on 04/13/2012 1:38:24 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I’m starting to think that’s why he was charged with 2nd degree murder, rather than manslaughter or some such."

Based on the documents that Dershowitz was talking about, I'm starting to think that the reason the special prosecutor charged Zimmerman is because she's not very smart and is not a very good lawyer. She's probably not used to prosecuting defendants with an IQ above room temperature or sparring with good lawyers. If somebody told her to do this, they didn't think it through.

27 posted on 04/13/2012 1:38:24 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I will laugh my big ol’ butt off if he's exonerated at the evidentiary hearing or even before. Good luck controlling those riots, Barry.”

The evidence is 100% clear that Neighborhood Watch Capt. Zimmerman was acting completely within the law and entirely within his responsibly as an NW officer.

The judge will have no choice but to free Capt. Zimmerman and will do so when Zimmerman will be safe on the outside.

28 posted on 04/13/2012 1:40:59 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...could hit?...


29 posted on 04/13/2012 1:42:07 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Talisker

“They want to kill Stand Your Ground, so what do they do? They pick a case where the victim was flat on his back being beaten to death, and shot his attacker precisely because he COULDN’T stand his ground.”

Yeah, but cut them some slack. They saw the name “Zimmerman” and thought they could exploit the white/black thing. How could they know? Aside from doing a modicum of research. But who has time for that; rabble-rousing waits for no man.

Turns out they can exploit it even though the white half isn’t white in a traditional sense. Though he’s white in a spiritual sense, or something.


30 posted on 04/13/2012 1:42:15 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

” you bet the White House wants to make it a part, and so do the the aged 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus spoiled brats and their bratty ideological issue, arguably the Establishment.

Obama been laudin’ that black theology of liberation and revolution.. it’s now or never.”

They dealt the cards, we’ll play em!


31 posted on 04/13/2012 1:42:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The judge is recusing herself.


32 posted on 04/13/2012 1:43:33 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Obama loving Florida media is reporting today that the lawyer for Zim thinks any trial that happens won’t even occur until 2013.


33 posted on 04/13/2012 1:44:22 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Lazlo in PA
This is all about energizing his most reliable section of his base. Think about it, if they have to be energized Zero is in sorry shape! Now I am now saying they would vote GOP, but that they wouldn't turn out. Doing this may energize his base, but it will drive away any independents that are thinking about returning the the zero fold.
34 posted on 04/13/2012 1:46:22 PM PDT by Reily
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To: MarineDad; 2ndDivisionVet

It won’t play well...Obama’s approval ratings are already going down. A race riot won’t help him one bit.


35 posted on 04/13/2012 1:47:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Meet the New Boss
The journ-o-listers are beginning to sense that this case may turn out to be more like the OJ Simpson case where in the end only the black demographic believes the narrative.

Bingo. How many would have voted for a guy who said he believed that O.J. could find the real killers?

It seems some Journ-O-Listers have finally cracked the history books and discovered, to their horror, that race rioting and hippies on the rampage are NOT helpful to Democrats.

36 posted on 04/13/2012 1:49:29 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Race baiting has spilled over into normally quiet College towns in the North part of Florida, It's going to be a long hot summer, and Obummer did all he could to fan the flames to a dangerous level for Floridians. and the tourist who visit Florida this summer.
37 posted on 04/13/2012 1:51:18 PM PDT by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: tsowellfan

And by looking at the latest pictures of the Zimmer, he is definitely not a “white hispanic.”


38 posted on 04/13/2012 1:51:47 PM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t the prosecuter , Corey, elected? If so, is she up for reelection in Nov?


39 posted on 04/13/2012 1:53:57 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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Re: “Democrat George Zimmerman”

I searched his political donation records for Florida and Virginia and found nothing.

I think $250 is the public disclosure threshold, so that means he may have contributed, but LESS than $250.

If Zimmerman contributed to Barack Obama’s campaign - no matter how little - that would be a PR bombshell against the race hustlers!

40 posted on 04/13/2012 1:57:10 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now that he is incarcerated, all of a sudden he does not look “white” in the photos the media are producing. Hmmm...

Photo:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/judge-george-zimmerman-case-offers-recuse-herself-175152933.html


41 posted on 04/13/2012 2:02:04 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Not today. No way.


42 posted on 04/13/2012 2:04:26 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: umgud

Yes, I believe she is.


43 posted on 04/13/2012 2:04:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: facedown
Agreed. The benefit of this case to the left is incalculable. All necessary steps will be taken to keep this matter before the public eye. Very few judges will have the courage to rule in Zimmerman's favor irrespective of the law and/or facts.
44 posted on 04/13/2012 2:05:58 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Well, you have a lot of faith in the legal system. I think it is more likely that a judge will hold Zimmerman over for trial and a jury will convict, all under the threat that either a dismissal of charges or an acquittal would assure that the judge and jurors would be in imminent danger and would never be able to live normal lives again.


45 posted on 04/13/2012 2:06:52 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Re: “Democratic Hispanic mortgage employee George Zimmerman.”

Wow.

“Black Predator” George Zimmerman is also a “Predatory Lender!”


46 posted on 04/13/2012 2:07:30 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Team Obama, which will include the prosecution team and judge, won’t allow this trial to begin until after the election.


47 posted on 04/13/2012 2:09:12 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This case can only hurt Obama, no matter what the outcome. He already has the black vote, except for very few black conservatives. And those black conservatives will vote Republican no matter what—if they do think Zimmerman outright killed Martin, there are so few, I don’t think they would be an essential loss to republican votes. If Zimmerman is found guilty, I think more independents will be pi$$ed and vote republican—especially in Florida. I think Obama will sink in Florida because of the railroading of Zimmerman.


48 posted on 04/13/2012 2:13:17 PM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: toldyou

He looks skinny too!!


49 posted on 04/13/2012 2:17:51 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

Yes...wasn’t he described as being big...capable of overpowering that “little” innocent boy?


50 posted on 04/13/2012 2:24:04 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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