"Spite" Dude? When your head is in the toilet, it's time to stop worrying about the rug...
...no matter how much it ties the room together. 
Don't confuse dignity with spite!
Posted on 04/13/2012 12:13:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
A Romney nomination insures 4 more years of the worst President in history. People do not vote for a man who can lie to their face with a straight face. There are videos of the man passionately standing on all sides of all the issues. That's going to be the downfall of this man's campaign.
Romney is his own enemy and the GOP is its own enemy simply by pushing Romney onto the party.
Besides, Romney is not the only Republican left. There is Newt.
I’m voting for Romney. Don’t you guys care about the economy?
Enough of this false dichtomy construct. We do have more than two choices. There comes a time a man has to decide what he makes himself complicit in supporting. I'm not a huge fan of Newt, but I'll back him all the way if there's the smallest chance it can stop Romney.
“As much as I dislike Romney you would have to be insane not to vote for him if he is the nominee”
You have to be insane to vote for an extreme left-wing liberal no matter who the party is that nominated him.
“If we don’t have a conservative at the top of the ticket we must turn out anyway and vote straight conservative DOWN ticket!!”
What if we don’t have a choice of a “true” conservative down ticket?
I’m torn up about Romney probably getting the nomination. I voted for McCain last time cause I knew what we were getting with Obama. Didn’t do a damn bit of good. We have a long time before the election. Things change. I’ll follow your lead. However, If you change your mind then please let me know!
Why do you keep pushing the GOP-e lies? I find it highly offensive!!
No pimping for Romney from me, no voting either.
In other news, this is really going to make conservatives look good when Obama and company go after Romney for this:
“Romney, Torture, and Teens
The former governor’s connections to abusive “tough love” camps”
http://reason.com/archives/2007/06/27/romney-torture-and-teens
Something wrong with yours, you wuss! Did you send in a large donation to Newt, yet? If not, you don't deserve America! So you will get everything you fear the most!
Dubya also got us Roberts and Alito instead of Kagan and Sotomayor.
Exactly!
"Dubya gave us Obama" I believe was originated by either Donald Trump or Michael Weiner
romney is evil... if he were a good Christian man, we could believe in his redemption... but he is not... he is a member of a cult and the more that I learn of his religion... the more that I understand what it is not... and it is NOT a Christian religion. He says that he has had a change of heart... but I hear no apology for the murders of the innocent that he has enabled. He owes all of us apologies for every single progressive thing that he has done and every single progressive action he took as governor... but do not hold your breath... he is a progressive and only lies today for power and money. I will not vote for him under any circumstance whatsoever. I will vote for every single Conservative down ballot... but romney will never see a vote from my hand.
LLS
Dubya is an example of what will happen if Mitt wins. Big, bigger, biggest government.
For conservatives, Dubya is the perfect example of Republican failure and the results...another Obama.
Mitt will either be a Dubya (if we cave in and vote for him); or, Mitt will be a McCain. Either way leads to another Obama.
Then run yourself or help someone else run.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
Which exposed liberalism to the world and brought us Speaker Newt Gingrich 2 years later in response and his balanced budgets, booming economy and budget surplus. Then the Repugs nominated Bob Don't and lost the White House. Notice they're repeating history here...1992-1994-1996...2008-2010-2012. All we have to do like Jim says is gridlock Obama the way we gridlocked Clinton. It won't make government conservative of course but it will lessen the damage and set the stage to retake the White House in 2016.
That's good to know. I was about to push the abuse button. :)
Apparently you missed where I have been a anti-Mormon bigot making fun of magic underpants for many years.
Research is your friend, knee-jerk reactions make you look stupid.
Do you live in Massachusets? LOL!
Well said! DITTOS!
Ooorah! Romney supporters can kiss my unmicrostamped firing pin! I will NOT vote for that gungrabber!
"Spite" Dude? When your head is in the toilet, it's time to stop worrying about the rug...
...no matter how much it ties the room together. Don't confuse dignity with spite!
Well, if you don’t like the way we do things here in my house you can pick up your chips and leave.
I fear the same. FUBO!
Newt isn’t out yet, so can’t we at least hold off the recriminations until we are actually stuck with Romney?
ABO means what it means. Anybody but Obama. That includes Newt. But since this thread has turned into some kind of harsh 'FU' thread, it seems pointless to continue.
This is not a discussion, it is a tantrum.
“I’d vote for just about anyone to bid adieu to President Worse-Than-Carter, Lyndon Johnson, and FDR combined. Are you insane?”
And you will have spun the hamster wheel and gotten nowhere. Right now, the Democrats anneal the iron and the Republicans quench it, but those two partners are in the same workshop forging our chains.
The way I see it... he is either very very liberal and a liar or he has no principles at all.
Neither of these is endearing.
The GOP has to face the facts, they cannot win without conservative votes. They are not going to make up the difference by stealing liberal votes, they just won’t. Liberals will stick to the most liberal panderer, Obama, of course.
Why would moderates support a fraud like Romney who has a leftwing record but spouts lines that seem to be written by a Hollywood Hack for a Republican villain “I’m not concerned about the very poor” and “I like firing people”.
The fact is Moderates won’t trust the flip flopper, liberals will stick to Obama and conservatives have no good reason to support him.
It is like he was specially designed to give Obama a big win even during the worst administration in history.
Why vote for someone who is just as bad as the current ass-clown?
“But no matter what happens we must turn out in November to vote IN as many conservatives and vote OUT as many rats as possible at all levels of government. If we don’t have a conservative at the top of the ticket we must turn out anyway and vote straight conservative DOWN ticket!! Just think of it an off cycle election and pour on the TEA!! It’ll be doubly important that we control both houses of congress and as many statehouses as possible.”
Jim I make you look like a liberal and if we are going to throw our hands up for the office of President that is absolutely fine and understandable and certainly lets work to get conservatives in every other office possible but come on, do not give talking points to our enemies in the commie dumbocrap party and in the MSM because you know they will use it against us and the country.
This is a classic case of loose lips sink ships and the enemy is listening.
The best we could do is go into stealth mode when it comes to Mitt as we will not, more than likely have a conservative for the office of president. Silence is golden.
A Romney election will destroy the conservative movement and the country when socialists sweep in 2014 and 2016.
Most people voting in the Republican primary are Republicans. Some are "unenrolled" who can vote in one primary or the other and in a couple states Dems can choose a GOP ballot. So far Mr. Romney has a huge delegate lead and will probably win the nomination.
Republican in Name Only? No, he's a Republican and most people voting for him are Republicans. Conservative in Name Only might be a better nickname (CINO?). The fact is that in many elections, the preferred nominee has been someone like George HW Bush, Bob Dole, George W Bush, John McCain, and now Mitt Romney. Change the nominating process if you must. Or convince the party establishment to go for someone who is totally conservative in your opinion.
What I think is interesting is that on the other side of the aisle I don't really hear too many people saying "I think Obama isn't progressive enough. I won't vote for him, even if it means electing Romney." In 2004 there were a lot more "Democrats for Bush" than "Republicans for Kerry". I have heard the term GOP-e, GOP-establishment. You could try to get an effective real conservative to run and hopefully win. Or you could have them run third party-- and ensure a win for Obama. Can Romney beat Obama? One recent poll says yes.
Which would have been worse:
1) President McCain and Vice President Palin
OR President Obama and Vice President Biden
Which would be worse?
1) President Romney and VP (whomever)
OR 4 more years of The One and Clueless Joe.
Abstain from voting for Romney if you wish, if it helps your conscience and your integrity.
...Four More Years...
"Thanks guys!"
We, on the conservative side, always look at the black vote, scratch out heads, & wonder how it is that so many blacks continue to vote for dems when the policies of the democrat party hurt them so badly.
The dems chuckle and retort, “Where else are they gonna go?”
It seems that the republican establishment has taken the same attitude toward us conservatives - “Where else are they gonna go?”
Well, this conservative (I haven’t identified as a republican since Dole was our “choice”)intends to send them a message -LOUD AND CLEAR - that my vote is NOT to be taken as a given, because I ain’t givin’ it to a RINO.
The more of us who make that choice, the louder & clearer the message. I’m with you, Jim.
The way I see it... he is either very very liberal and a liar or he has no principles at all.
Neither of these is endearing.
The GOP has to face the facts, they cannot win without conservative votes. They are not going to make up the difference by stealing liberal votes, they just won’t. Liberals will stick to the most liberal panderer, Obama, of course.
Why would moderates support a fraud like Romney who has a leftwing record but spouts lines that seem to be written by a Hollywood Hack for a Republican villain “I’m not concerned about the very poor” and “I like firing people”.
The fact is Moderates won’t trust the flip flopper, liberals will stick to Obama and conservatives have no good reason to support him.
It is like he was specially designed to give Obama a big win even during the worst administration in history.
You’re the one who spouted off about the “top spot being unaddressed” when it clearly was. Quit being such an arseportal.... wait, you can’t help that. You were born that way.
But I have friends and family who plan to. People whom I consider conservatives. One of them is the woman I've been married to for thirty years.
I plan to try and talk them out of it.
One thing I do not plan to do is call them "idiots" and tell them to f--- off.
an anti-Mormon bigot.
i tried but i couldn't stop myself
I hear ya’ Jim. Though I may wait and see who Romney chooses as his running mate. I hate soeotro that badly.
Though it’s Newt in the CA primary come Hell or high water.
(Yes, I’m stuck here.)
“The only good thing I can see if Romney wins, is that we’ll be able to go after him full bore without being tagged as racists.”
No, you will be tagged as ‘bigots’.
5 RINOs like Graham, Snowe, Lugar, etc. got us Kagan because if Republican opposition was united, she could have been filibustered. It's time to fight for REAL conservatives and not waste any effort helping RINOs.
I’m voting for Romney. Don’t you guys care about the economy?
I don’t plan to vote for Romney. But I believe that case can be made without quite the level of drama we’re seeing on this thread.
“For the sake of our party we must stand united, whoever our nominee is.”- Sarah Palin. CPAC, 2012.
Let the flop horse flop. He'll probably still win.
Here's another:
"Be sure you put your feet in the right place, then stand firm."
-- Abraham Lincoln
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Just to refresh your memory you accused me of helping to get Obama reelected. I find that highly offensive as I am opposed to all evil abortionist/homosexualist/socialist lying bastards.
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