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Santorum Suspends: So What Now?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | April 10, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/10/2012 2:12:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: Rick Santorum has just suspended his campaign. I think the reason for suspending the campaign is it allows you to continue to raise money to pay off your debt, but Santorum's campaign has been suspended. God bless him. I don't know why. I don't know if he had internal polling numbers that looked bad in Pennsylvania. I don't know if it's money. I don't know if it's the accumulation of pressure on him from the establishment. It's probably a combination, some people say unprecedented, in a Republican primary. Negative campaign ads have clearly worked. They drove Newt out. They drove others out. Of course the women took care of Herman Cain. Let's see what else. The attack ads on Santorum have been plentiful. Now, here's what happens next, folks.

So the Republican establishment, which has wanted Romney from the beginning -- don't forget now. I want to go back and relive this from last summer, when the intensity really kicked in. This was always, to me, a very curious Republican primary. You've heard the old adage that in primary campaigns, candidates run to shore up their base, which for Romney, Santorum, Rick Perry, whoever on the Republican side, means you run to the right. You shore up the conservatives. You get 'em, and then after you've done that, the conventional wisdom, the theory as espoused by political consultants since the burning bush, is that you then move to the center. After you've secured your base, you move to the middle. Then you go after the precious independents, and you add them to the base that you have shorn up by virtue of your victory in the primaries, and that carries you to victory.

What was always striking to me about this Republican primary is that the establishment set out from the get-go to shore up the moderates first, to win this nomination with moderate Republican votes, not conservative Republican votes. Do not doubt me when I tell you, the Republican establishment is not happy. We've talked about this I don't know how many times before, how many years, the Republican establishment is embarrassed of many conservatives, both conservative media people, conservative voters, they're embarrassed of them. I'm talking about the New York, Washington corridor Republican establishment types. Just embarrassed of them. It was remarkable. They had their candidate, which was Romney, and then all the others which were conservatives. We ended up splitting the conservative primary vote.

To many people this was extremely frustrating for -- well, a host of reasons, but if you go back and look at what happened in the 2010 midterms, that was a landslide victory. And it wasn't centered around a candidate. It was centered around an idea. And the idea was that conservatism and limited government and individual liberty and freedom were what make this country great and what will save this country. And so the Tea Party came to life, people who had never been in politics before, people who had never been to a town hall meeting were appalled, aghast, frightened what they saw happening to the country via the policies of Obama. So they started getting involved. A name for them was created called the Tea Party.

They started showing up at town hall meetings, and they became the animating force of the Republican Party. They didn't have a leader. They were made up of political amateurs. And when the 2010 midterms came along, the Democrat Party suffered a landslide defeat almost unprecedented. Now, it was never reported that way because obviously the media is not gonna tell the truth about the shellacking the Democrats got, but they lost over 700 elected offices, from the federal level, through the state, down the town, community, township, wherever. It was a shellacking.

It was then thus expected that a Republican presidential nominee would arise from this vast movement and give a leadership face to the Tea Party in the person of whoever would adopt those policies and garner that support. And then that person would go on to become the nominee and then continue on the basis of ideas and ideology the same things that secured this massive landslide victory in the midterms in 2010 into the general election for president this year. But that didn't happen. Instead, the Republican establishment made no effort to secure the support of the Tea Party and instead stayed within itself and opted to secure the nomination with a strategy that emphasized moderate candidates over conservative candidates.

I can't tell you how that frustrated a lot of people who had such high hopes. People really had, because of the Tea Party and its success in 2010, the greatest of hopes and expectations that that would continue into the presidential year and be another shellacking all the way from top to bottom of the ballot with victory in the White House. And now that hasn't happened. So there is great disappointment. Something else that's happened in the process of this primary campaign is that supporters of the more conservative candidates in the primary have seen ads run against their candidate, these negative ads, torch ads, and they're mad.

Like Gingrich. Gingrich was livid after the negative campaign run against him in Iowa. He was livid. He became obsessed with destroying Romney. He became obsessed with denying Romney the nomination. It didn't matter who else got it, if it wasn't gonna be him, it wasn't gonna be Romney. Well, time flew by, and now Newt is saying that he'll do what's necessary to help Romney get elected.

I'm just trying to accurately describe the thinking and the feelings of a lot of people. I'm not speaking of myself per se here. I'm just recognizing, for those of you that are not intimately involved in this, there is a degree of sadness and disappointment over this, because of a lost opportunity it's perceived to be up against what we're up against. So where does that leave us? Well, it leaves us now where the establishment candidate is the nominee. I can't give you a specific time frame on this. It was in the last month or two. I remember having the stories here.

There were times... What was it, Wisconsin or Illinois? Some state. If Romney didn't win it, it was over. The establishment was already getting ready to throw Romney overboard and say, "To hell with this. Let's look at 2016." There were a number of instances in the primary where the preferred winner, Romney, was having so much trouble locking it up that the establishment was pulling its hair out. "Oh, my God! If he can't win here, oh, jeez! Well, we need a new candidate." Remember the stories? "We may have to go to the convention to get a new candidate." Oh, yeah! "Will Jeb Bush get in? We hope Jeb will come in."

So even now there are lingering -- I don't know if it's "doubts." But there is a level of insecurity on the Republican establishment side about where we are. So I just want to prepare you people for something. I just want to prepare you. Now, I don't even know if I want to do it now, because I don't want to be accused of throwing negativism on this pile right now. I'm gonna reserve this for a while. But it's a pretty big point as to what is possible down the road here, given various outcomes. I'm not trying to be sneaky or mean-spirited by taunting you and teasing you here and then pulling it back. I'm not. I'm using my best judgment here withholding this. But... (interruption)

I don't know who the veep's gonna be.

I have no clue who the veep's gonna be.

Now, Chris Christie, who many people are touting as the veep, is out there. I don't know if we've got the audio of this or not. But Christie is out there really, really letting welfare recipients have it. He is really letting welfare recipients have it. It's gonna be eaten up by a lot of people. Let me find that. I've got so many stacks here... Okay, we do have it. Here it is. Here it is. These stacks give birth to themselves during the course of the show. They just grow and end in different places. Here we go. This is from NewJersey.com. Headline: "Gov. Christie: Nation Turning into 'People Sitting on a Couch Waiting for Their Next Government Check' -- Gov. Chris Christie said the country is becoming a 'paternalistic entitlement society' this morning in a speech at a conservative conference headed by former President George W. Bush.

"Addressing Bush and other national Republicans, Christie said he hasn't seen a less optimistic period in the country in his lifetime. 'Government's telling them stop dreaming, stop striving, we'll take care of you,' he said at a theater at the New York Historical Society. 'We're turning into a paternalistic entitlement society. That will not just bankrupt us financially, it will bankrupt us morally. We'll have a bunch of people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check,' Christie said." Well, he's right. He's just maybe a little late in coming to this observation. Because this has been going on for quite a while here. For 50 years this has been the Democrat agenda! He's just succinctly nailed it here, but it's not "We're gonna have..."

We got it now.

There are lots of couches out there, folks, and lots of people on 'em.

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RUSH: Santorum. I just gave a little bit of a listen. Great, great speech that he's giving here. We'll have audio sound bites, hopefully a few of them, before the end of the program today; definitely tomorrow. It's always the case in concession speeches, pressure's off, doesn't matter what happens next, you're out of the race. The media is very unhappy because all these massive commercial buys are now over. Romney will stop spending money. Well, nah, I mean he could start directing it at Obama now. And Obama, by the way, can now focus everything on Romney. One of the reasons I was in favor of this continuing to play out was to delay Obama's eventual onslaught at whoever the nominee is, but now it's Romney, so that will begin.

The primaries are over. The only guy left out there is Ron Paul. Ahem. So it will be fascinating, and we'll do this, fascinating to watch Romney and listen to the shape his campaign takes now, how ideological will his campaign be. Will it be rooted in conservatism? He doesn't have to talk conservative anymore. Will he continue to do so? We will find out. It won't take very long.

To the audio sound bites. George W. Bush. This is the appearance today in New York at the George W. Bush Institute Conference on Taxes and Economic Growth. That's where Christie showed up and told everybody that we're becoming a bunch of lazy, sitting on the couch waiting for the next welfare check to come in. That's what he said. He said the country's becoming a "paternalistic entitlement society," at the Bush Institute. "Government's telling 'em to stop dreaming," people, "to stop striving. We'll take care of you." He's right. They are. But they've been doing that for 50 years. We're turning into a "paternalistic entitlement society" that will not just bankrupt us financially, it will bankrupt us morally. "We’ll have a bunch of people sittin’ on a couch waiting for their next government check."

He's right. We already do. One of the things I expect that Obama will do will be to rename the Buffett Rule to the Romney Rule. The rich are not paying their fair share. Get ready for this, folks. It is gonna be an all-out assault on the wealthy, as typified by Romney. Occupy Wall Street will be reborn. Occupy Wall Street is already being conceived out there in various states. It's about ready to be born, give birth. And so it's time to put on the flak jackets. It starts now.

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RUSH: We have a couple of Santorum speech sound bites. Here's the first...

SANTORUM: This race was as improbable as any race that you will ever see for president. I want to thank God for that and I want to thank all of you across this country for what you have given -- hopefully not just me and our family but what you've given -- which is a voice to those who are many cases voiceless. And we have tried to be a witness not just for your stories and your voice but to provide a positive and hopeful vision, not a negative campaign. We've painted a hopeful, positive vision for a country. Not just economically but reflecting hopes of Americans; not just the fears of Americans.

RUSH: He spent a lot of time in his speech today talking about the fact that he didn't run any negative ads, didn't run a scorched-earth campaign, and it's a direct... Well, it's not direct. It's a veiled reference to Romney, who did. And Santorum, like all the others, is livid about it. But they work. Negative campaigns work. Here's the second bite...

SANTORUM: We carried around our copy of the Constitution. And of course it was that Constitution that got the Tea Party folks excited, legitimately so, about the operators manual of America being discarded by those in Washington. And I think what I tried to bring to the battle was what Abraham Lincoln brought to this battlefield back in 1863 on November 19 when he talked about this country being "conceived in liberty" and "dedicated to the proportion that 'all men are created equal.'" He was quoting, of course, the Declaration of Independence, conceived in that Declaration. And we talked about that Declaration as the heart of American exceptionalism as to who we are, because we will never be a country that can go forward as a great and powerful country again unless we remember who we are and what makes us Americans.

RUSH: Do you hear the reference to the Tea Party there? It was the fondest hope that that Tea Party eruption in 2010 would produce a like-minded presidential nominee and campaign. But, you know, you look back and who would have ever thought Santorum would win 11 states when this started? Who would have ever thought that would have happened? I don't think Santorum believed he would win 11 states. But he did, and it is quite telling. Santorum never mentioned Romney by name, by the way. I wanted to make sure I mentioned that.

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1 posted on 04/10/2012 2:12:37 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Santorum Suspends: So What Now?

I guess now we're stuck with Mitt, who like McCain probably believes our country needs another 4 years with the affirmative action president. May God help America survive this.

2 posted on 04/10/2012 2:14:39 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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He doesn’t want to risk a humiliating loss in PA.

Thanks for the diversion, Rick. Hope you enjoyed the ride.


3 posted on 04/10/2012 2:15:32 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Kaslin

Well Newt is still in! If he don’t win we can all sit around and cry about it or We can throw Obama (zero) out on his ear!


4 posted on 04/10/2012 2:15:56 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Kaslin

“RUSH: Do you hear the reference to the Tea Party there? It was the fondest hope that that Tea Party eruption in 2010 would produce a like-minded presidential nominee and campaign.”

While I’m sure many of the original Tea Partiers are still there, I think moderates have also infiltrated the Tea Party. I have felt that way for a long time. The Tea Party is not quite what it used to be, imo.


5 posted on 04/10/2012 2:18:46 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Kaslin

the stumblebums over at 77 wabc radio in NY thought they could do a better job of talking about this aspect of politics and prempted Rush a couple of times while waiting for Santorum to speak....I finally turned it of...


6 posted on 04/10/2012 2:19:32 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: tallyhoe

I’m with Newt, take it to Tampa.


7 posted on 04/10/2012 2:21:35 PM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Kaslin

With the race down to Willard and Newt the best move is for Rick to call on Sarah and Perry, perhaps another to coalesce into a campaign for Newt. With the various factions of the conservatives and republicans coming together they can thwart the undercurrent of the go-pees presumption of Willard is the winner.

Picture Newt, Santorum, Palin and Perry together on a campaign stage beating up on Hussein Obama.

Willard’s mealy mouth approach will wither and fade behind the roar of the cheering crowds.


8 posted on 04/10/2012 2:25:45 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: duffee

I Know I am voting for Newt in the PA primary.
I can’t support Romney.


9 posted on 04/10/2012 2:27:16 PM PDT by bt-99 ("Get off my Lawn")
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To: Kaslin
Conservative Talk Radio hosts need to conduct a full court press on Romney to make a solid VP pick in exchange for their support:

ALLEN WEST

10 posted on 04/10/2012 2:27:47 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: TLI
Picture Newt, Santorum, Palin and Perry together on a campaign stage beating up on Hussein Obama.

Don't get hopes up for this. Even the Tea Party let us down. For some reason the Tea Parties sat back too long and let the only real Constitutional conservative down, that is Newt. Republicans will never learn that sitting back get them nowhere.

11 posted on 04/10/2012 2:31:43 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: bt-99

Absolutely; I expect that Newt will be surprised and pleased when he sees how much of PA goes for him! Too bad we can’t vote for VP as well because Newt/Santorum doesn’t sound bad to this girl!


12 posted on 04/10/2012 2:33:45 PM PDT by trumpetvine
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To: Kaslin
Romney cannot win against 0bama, apparently the GOPe feel it isn't time to take the White house.

We need the Constitution party spooled up and we need it fast!

13 posted on 04/10/2012 2:37:12 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Gene Eric

The RNC probably agreed to pay off his campaign debt if he dropped out. Just my guess.


14 posted on 04/10/2012 2:38:47 PM PDT by gramho12
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To: DTogo
Conservative Talk Radio hosts need to conduct a full court press on Romney to make a solid VP pick in exchange for their support:

Romney could ask JC himself to be his running mate and I still won't cast a vote for him.

A VP doesn't make the POTUS, the POTUS makes the VP.

Romney will not be good for the country, period!!

15 posted on 04/10/2012 2:43:38 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin; Antonious; Lazlo in PA
Santorum Suspends: So What Now?

1) I vote for him anyway in the Pennsylvania primary.

2) I either stay home in November (not a good idea, ever) or write in Santorum. Since Øbama-lite isn't likely to win I can hardly consider that a wasted protest vote.

16 posted on 04/10/2012 2:46:57 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: EGPWS
Romney will not be good for the country, period!!

And 4 more years of Obama would be just swell...

17 posted on 04/10/2012 2:47:30 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: lightman

I am voting Santorum here in PA. The Primary election is just a short time away and there is no time for anyone else to mount a challenge against Milt. If by some fluke he wins, it counts delegate wise. Rick just suspended the campaign, so it just means he isn’t campaigning.

I have no idea what to do in the fall. I am sure that will be worked out after a few bottles of Single Malt are ingested the weekend before the election.


18 posted on 04/10/2012 2:55:39 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Kaslin
Ok, I have a lot of thoughts but why if he is a true fighter, why wouldn't he stay in until after the Pennsylvania vote. Rick divided the conservatives in the south. It is such a shame this all has happened when we had stronger candidates in the field. Whether people liked some of the other candidates or not; they all were better than Romney in some degree (even with their weaknesses) The entire thing was to stop Newt Gingrich after the Gop-e saw his performances in many debates. The excitement of Newt's message and taking the fight to the bias media gave a lot of people a desire to fight the radicals head on. How can the soc cons vote for Romney-how can a true conservative support Romney and how he will take the party. Romney has flaws and Obama does-but who will motivate the base more. Romney is wrong for the country.
19 posted on 04/10/2012 2:57:28 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Kaslin
Santorum Suspends: So What Now?

1. Support Newt.
2. Work to keep the House in the GOP's control and retake the Senate.

20 posted on 04/10/2012 2:58:00 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: Logical me

The tea partners are home cleaning our guns and reloading. Time to get ready for an exciting summer.


21 posted on 04/10/2012 2:58:58 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Logical me

The tea partners are home cleaning our guns and reloading. Time to get ready for an exciting summer.


22 posted on 04/10/2012 2:59:15 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Kaslin

What now? Nothing. It was a done deal and I’m not talking about Mittens.


23 posted on 04/10/2012 3:04:58 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Lazlo in PA
Good grief-you still don't get it-Rick is out.
Why throw away votes-vote for Newt or Paul. Stop giving Romney more votes. How can the Gop-e ever get a message from the people that we are not happy with Romney.
24 posted on 04/10/2012 3:06:40 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Kaslin

Again the GOPe deny half the country, the more conservative half, any voice in the primaries.

And we are supposed to dutifully vote for them in November?

No way.


25 posted on 04/10/2012 3:07:11 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Gene Eric
He doesn’t want to risk a humiliating loss in PA. Thanks for the diversion, Rick. Hope you enjoyed the ride.

o cry me a river kid.

26 posted on 04/10/2012 3:07:32 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: Kaslin

crap. how am i going to avoid hearing about romney now?


27 posted on 04/10/2012 3:08:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: Logical me

It’s not about my hopes.

It’s about the folks that voted for Newt, Rick, Rick and the Sarah supporters did not just evaporate. They were NOT voting for Willard back when all were in the race and it is unlikely they are going to start now. Put those numbers together and then you have got something formidable.

This will additionally focus attention on Newt, giving him more opportunity to be seen. Folks can then realize yeah, he really is better that Willard.

This is exactly what I posted back on Feb 1.

Santorum needs to team with Newt, ask Perry and Palin to join in their campaign and push into the lead.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2840973/posts?page=40#40


28 posted on 04/10/2012 3:10:52 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Cementjungle
Ron Paul is still in. So is Gary Johnson.

If anybody would care to look at it factually, rather than in cheerleader mode, they would realize that the political positions of these two are condiderably closer to your own than Romney, Santorum or most certainly, Obama.

29 posted on 04/10/2012 3:18:29 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Christie at the beach

LOL. Do whatever you want. I don’t really don’t care what you think about anything. You and your ilk are the main reason I could give a flip about Newt right now. Do you feel good you poisoned the well here with Santorum people with your vitriol?

Peace Out. Fo Shizzle.


30 posted on 04/10/2012 3:19:21 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: DTogo

Romney will not be good for the country, period!!
And 4 more years of Obama would be just swell...

Agreed. No mittens fan here. But, I’ll be damned if I’m going to sit home and not vote against this rotten SOB president. Remember, if obunghole gets to replace one of the conservative judges on the Supreme Court, we are done. We don’t know who Romney would pick, we do know the kind of Marxist dumbo will nominate.


31 posted on 04/10/2012 3:19:53 PM PDT by hdbc (1/20/13 End of an Error.)
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To: DTogo
Here are the best reasons I can think of to elect Governor Romney. (It's an attempt at satire.) It is, however, conceivable that Governor Romney might just be a tiny little bit better than a second term President Obama.
32 posted on 04/10/2012 3:23:47 PM PDT by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: Lazlo in PA

If I lived in Pennsylvania, and it looked like Gingrich could get above single digits, I’d vote for Gingrich, even if I had been a Santorum supporter.

Gingrich folks have gotten exactly what they wanted. When Newt decided not to drop out, the only chance for a conservative win was for Santorum to drop out. Of course, that chance is, in my opinion absolutely zero, because Newt can’t get the votes, but Santorum wasn’t going to win with Newt hanging around, so now Gingrich has a clear field.

My guess is that Gingrich does nothing with this field.


33 posted on 04/10/2012 3:26:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Lazlo in PA
We can give you the extremist award for certain.

Bitter, ugly to the end. Maybe you will leave now.

34 posted on 04/10/2012 3:28:58 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: TLI
If coalitions could have been formed, it would have already been done.

One of the reasons Santorum gave up is that there is no possibility of a coalition.

All of this was examined in excruciating detail before the announcement.

35 posted on 04/10/2012 3:29:40 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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36 posted on 04/10/2012 3:46:20 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Kaslin

So now I vote for Newt in the primary and ABO in the general. But to be clear, I will vote for Romney over Obama. And I will not lose any sleep over it. Obama is orders of magnitude worse than Romney could ever be.


37 posted on 04/10/2012 3:51:03 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: All; Kaslin
They drove Newt out? Really Rush?

Newt's still in and asking for Santorum supporters to join with him:

New Bern, NC – Newt Gingrich released the following statement reacting to Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum suspending his campaign:

“Rick has waged a remarkable campaign. His success is a testament to his tenacity and the power of conservative principles.

“I am committed to staying in this race all the way to Tampa so that the conservative movement has a real choice. I humbly ask Senator Santorum’s supporters to visit Newt.org to review my conservative record and join us as we bring these values to Tampa. We know well that only a conservative can protect life, defend the Constitution, restore jobs and growth and return to a balanced budget.”


38 posted on 04/10/2012 4:00:17 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: elkfersupper

FYI: Looks like Gary Johnson’s running Libertarian now.


39 posted on 04/10/2012 4:01:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: DTogo
Romney will not be good for the country, period!!

And 4 more years of Obama would be just swell...

Nope, it will be the same regardless, however better is expected out of an opposing political party based upon CONSERVATISM!!

40 posted on 04/10/2012 4:05:52 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Christie at the beach
Bitter, ugly to the end. Maybe you will leave now.

LOL. I was here before you and you are telling me to take a hike? Yeah right lady. Some of your super polite and courteous gems from the past.

What you santos people worried about Newt for. Get over it. Santos will never be the nominee. Earth to hello. He can’t even stop Romney so how can he stop Obama.

32 posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:22:59 PM by Christie at the beach

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2868106/posts?page=32#32

And now you are telling me to vote Newt in PA when he is in mid single digits BEHIND PAUL. Does the fact that he get's beat by Paul in some contests matter to you if Rick losing to Romney by inches in big states is a disqualifier? You better get your spin straight. As you said to another Santorum supporter on another thread: "I have a memory so when the new attitude comes, it is not becoming."

Die Rockin'. Over and out good buddy.

41 posted on 04/10/2012 4:18:07 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: EGPWS

I will NEVER vote for mitt so it looks like I can save a trip to the voting booth this fall.


42 posted on 04/10/2012 4:18:58 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: newzjunkey

This Pennsylvania family will be voting NEWT...and hope a new political party is formed to destroy the GOP completely.

I weep for the country we once had and is almost completely lost at this point of time..


43 posted on 04/10/2012 4:21:24 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: EGPWS
Nope, it will be the same regardless, however better is expected out of an opposing political party based upon CONSERVATISM!!

Ah, found your mistake. See the truth is the Republican party is not conservative. People like us here on FR are conservatives WITHIN the Republican party, but the party itself is not conservative. Come on now, think about it. In modern history the GOP is the party of Ike, Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr., and GW Bush. Only Reagan was conservative, and even then not nearly as conservative as many of us on FR and among the grass roots. His election was certainly a push in the right direction, but the 80's were hardly a truly conservative era.

Every election cycle conservatives like us try to push the party to the right (to be more conservative), and the establishment tries to hug the middle to win elections. This is basically what you can always expect in a 2 party system with no chance of coalition government. I'm not saying this is good or right, but it is the dynamic that has persisted for a very long time. You also have to remember that in a 2 party system like ours, defeating the opposition is regarded by many, perhaps even most, as equally important as advancing your own ideology (especially for the establishment/moderate types who are not really all that unhappy with the way things are anyway).

Once you dramatically reduce your expectations of the Grand Old Party, you'll feel better :)

44 posted on 04/10/2012 4:29:40 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Ah, found your mistake.

Mistake?

Far from it!

45 posted on 04/10/2012 4:40:17 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: newzjunkey
FYI: Looks like Gary Johnson’s running Libertarian now.

Well, yes.

46 posted on 04/10/2012 4:58:50 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: duffee

I really Like Newt. I just wish they had him and Santorum started campaigning sooner like a year sooner then they did!


47 posted on 04/10/2012 5:07:12 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: duffee

I really Like Newt. I just wish they had, him and Santorum started campaigning sooner like a year sooner then they did!


48 posted on 04/10/2012 5:07:29 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Kaslin
This is what I've been praying for. All true conservatives will unite behind Newt and he will win the Republican nomination and then the Presidency.
49 posted on 04/10/2012 5:20:13 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: EGPWS

If Mittens is smart he will pick a Conservative as VP—Newt? That is the only way I will vote for the guy. Still, I do not like the fellow in the White House as I see he’s doing a poor job—Even for a Democrat. If he was an effective leader I would not mind his Birth place or skin color. But, he is not—he’s a token for radical unions and such. I fully expected him to do something for Blacks in the Ghetto—and he has made things worse for them! He needs to voted out of office!


50 posted on 04/10/2012 5:40:21 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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