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Miami Marlins suspend manager Guillen for five games
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/10/miami-marlins-suspend-manager-guillen-for-five-games/comment-page-2/ ^ | April 10, 2012

Posted on 04/10/2012 7:50:22 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

” Guillen was fired for being honest”

Honesty is over rated in 2012. Ask Derbyshire : )


81 posted on 04/10/2012 3:29:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Your point would be pointier if it didn’t start with misinformation.


82 posted on 04/10/2012 4:30:43 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Dr. Ursus; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Dengar01; darkangel82; AuH2ORepublican; ..

Maybe he was talking about STARLIN Castro!!

When he called an upopular sports columnist a fag he later claimed the word meant something else in Venezuela.

This is classic OZman. He was probably drunk off his ass,

I’m glad he’s Miami’s problem now.

Meanwhile, If Bobby Petrino was only President of the United States he’d still be employed and more popular than ever.


83 posted on 04/11/2012 12:28:34 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Not to defend Ozzie, but he probably meant that he admired in a way how Castro had managed to survive all those years, not that he liked what he had done to his people. Ozzie says stupid things, and this one was as stupid as could be; an apology, clarification and five- game suspension sounds like a reasonable reaction.

As for calling a reporter a “fag,” he didn’t mean that the guy was a homosexual. The offensive slang term in Spanish for homosexual, “maricón,” is used in many places (including, I guess, Venezuela) to describe not just homosexuals, but someone who is a coward, or a weak person, or generally to insult someone. Just like someone in the U.S. might call someone a fag if he doesn’t want to dive into a swimming pool, or describe something “lame” as “gay” (which the NBA believes is the biggest human-rights problem in America), a Venezuelan might refer to a reporter who writes lies about him as a “maricón” even if he knew him to be heterosexual. And Ozzie translated it into “fag,” and all hell broke loose. Again, I’m not defending Ozzie’s behavior, just explaining that his “mistranslation” explanation is actually correct in a sense.


84 posted on 04/11/2012 3:36:40 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Dengar01; GOPsterinMA
Not to defend Ozzie, but he probably meant that he admired in a way how Castro had managed to survive all those years, not that he liked what he had done to his people.

I agree that's probably what he meant. That's what I took away when I read the comments the first time. I wouldn't have gotten bent out of shape about it but then again Castro didn't imprison my family nor do I have a stake in Marlin ticket sales.

I would go further as to say even if he was a Castro-lover and communist he would have every right to his fool opinions, just as the Marlins have every right to punish or fire him if his comments hurt the team.

As for calling a reporter a “fag,” he didn’t mean that the guy was a homosexual

Absolutely, the South Park episode "The F word" speaks about this. And he was 100% right, the appearently heterosexual Jay Mariotti is perhaps the biggest fag/maricon to ever be a sports writer. That doesn't stop the gays from screaming that it's "homophobic" to use those words in those contexts (they are probably used much more in those contexts than as a purley anti-gay slur).

However I don't buy any of his alleged difficulties with the English lanaguage. I think he knew what he was saying both times and was probably blato both times.

85 posted on 04/11/2012 5:02:05 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Borges; Hegewisch Dupa; AuH2ORepublican; Dengar01; darkangel82; GOPsterinMA

Mariotti was a tool.

I read his columns though, I guess I must like being angry.

I wonder what he’s doing now. Too bad he’s not a music star like Chris Brown, then could have gotten away with hitting his GF instead of being ruined.

Bayliss is also a tool but that’s what makes him entertaining. I not surprised the dude appeartently lied about being a HS B-Ball star. Completely in character. He obviously would have wanted to keep playing if he was good enougn, he wasn’t.


86 posted on 04/11/2012 5:19:06 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

By “blato” you mean “piss-drunk”? I think it’s spelled “blotto” (I could be wrong, though; it’s not a word one often sees in writing).


87 posted on 04/11/2012 5:46:56 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: GOYAKLA
I'm late, but well said!

Viva CUBA and Los Ustados Unidos!

88 posted on 04/11/2012 1:34:20 PM PDT by poobear
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Blotto, you’re right.

I don’t recall ever seeing it in print until now.

I should have said he was “in the bag”. I haven’t heard that one since NYPD Blue.


89 posted on 04/12/2012 12:03:16 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
I would have never understood what you meant had you said "in the bag," which I associate with being a sure thing (because he was bought off or otherwise), or else with the classic Disney cartoon starring the hilarious and underrated Humphrey the Bear:


90 posted on 04/12/2012 5:51:41 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

It appears to be a very arcane saying. Probably originated from the practice of putting booze bottles in paper bags.


91 posted on 04/13/2012 4:20:33 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Sold in package stores.


92 posted on 04/13/2012 5:13:47 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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