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To: Houmatt; Aunt Polgara
About that conversation that was supposed to be going on between Trayvon and his GF. It was supposed to be going on with Trayvon using a bluetooth headset

There are several rules and observations one needs to be aware of regarding the presence of a bluetooth headset. As a routine user of such a device I can safely state the following:

  1. The most basic BT device has a range of 10m (roughly 30ft). So, unless it is turned off or out of range, it continues to function.
  2. The phone the BT headset is connected to does not have to be open if it is one of the clamshell design phones. So, you can carry your phone in a pocket and (in some cases) initiate a call, hold a conversation and then end the conversation without touching the phone.
  3. If something should happen to cause the connection to break between your BT and phone, the phone remains on and connected to the party you are conversing with.
  4. Since your phone can be out of sight, you can look a bit crazy talking to yourself. I imagine many of you have already come across someone with a headset you didn't see until you were up close and thought that person was acting a bit strange until then.
Which brings us to some discrepancies about the conversation Dee Dee says Trayvon and she were engaged in up to the moment Trayvon and GZ tangle.

If he is having a conversation with DD (as reported by DD) up to the moment the "scuffle" begins how come GZ did not hear it going on prior to the "scuffle"? Anyone who has used a cellphone headset, BT or not, knows you cannot whisper into the headset when outdoors. So you cannot be sneaky and use one.

What happened to this conversation? DD, I'm being followed by some guy. He looks white and kinda tubby. He's driving a pickup, license number ____. Yadda, yadda, yadda while facing the guy following him so that guy knows Trayvon is talking to someone and providing info about his follower.

I keep hearing questions about why he turned on GZ. Has anyone thought about what happens to a kid's head when his mom and dad are getting/have gotten a divorce and that kid is around one of them and that parent's new "significant other"? And dad has gone out with his girlfriend and he has to babysit for them. And kid wants to be with his own girlfriend for his own face time. And kid was suspended for a week from school and sent to be with his dad. Wanna bet that 17-year-old boy is getting hot? And then some whitey starts following him around, its starting to rain, and... ...what do you think is going to happen next?

I think she either heard everything that happened that night, because the phone was still on and sending every sound it picked up all around Trayvon to her phone until she hung up, or her conversation with Trayvon never took place. Those call records they show only indicated when the calls were received, not when they ended. For all we know they might have had a fight during the earlier call listed so he called her back and she hung up on him. On top of the stuff I listed earlier he could have been angry about that as well.

Like Houmatt, I cannot trust a thing she says about what happened that night.

47 posted on 04/11/2012 1:06:14 AM PDT by egfowler3 (Why do I even bother? No one's listening.)
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To: egfowler3
Like Houmatt, I cannot trust a thing she says about what happened that night.

Yes, I agree with you that we probably don't have the whole story, but what she did say seems to me to support that Trayvon started the fight. If Z was planning on shooting Trayvon, why would he get so close? And since he knew the cops were coming, why would he initiate a brawl? Doesn't make sense to me. What makes more sense is that Trayvon felt dissed about being challenged for being there and sucker punched Z when Z went for his phone. Trayvon may have thought Z was going for a weapon. Tragic case all around.

Since we know that the media is fanning the flames, it's entirely possible that the police have a more complete statement from the GF than what the media showed, especially since the Martin attorney was present for the interview.

48 posted on 04/11/2012 5:16:30 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: egfowler3

If the records are anything like those for my phone, they show when the call started and how long it lasted. For billing purposes. So it ain’t hard to come up with a finish time.


51 posted on 04/11/2012 8:23:20 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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