Yes, by all means...
RELEASE THE OSMONDS!!!
; )
Posted on 04/06/2012 10:54:37 AM PDT by no dems
Another FReeper, in another posted comment, just this week, stated that his Mormon neighbor was obsessed with getting a Mormon, Mitt Romney, elected President of the United States. That statement has "stuck in my craw" ever since I read it; which begs to question:
If Mitt Romney is the GOP Nominee for POTUS, will the 14 million Mormons in the U.S. mobilize for him during the General Election? Hmmmmm....... Just wondering. The Mormon Church not only has a lot of "foot soldiers", but they know how to "mobilize". They've done it for decades.
Do not underestimate RINO-Rom in the GE. He's hungry. He's been running for the White House for 6 years. He, and the LDS Church have mega bucks. The Marriott Hotel Chain, for example, is a Mormon corporation; just to name one. And, the Primary season proved he will stoop to anything to win. Unlike McCain, he just might be capable of getting as "down and dirty" as the DemocRATS. And, I must say, it's kinda refreshing to see a Pubbie who will not bend over for the street-wise Dems like most Republicans do. Maybe there are some 'nads inside the "Magic Underwear".
“I admire your sunny optimism no end.”
I always try to see the silver lining on the mushroom cloud. After all, if it weren’t for gallows humor sometimes there would be no humor at all.
Yeah, I do. He was the FOUNDING FATHER of both Obamacare (which was modeled after Romneycare) and gay marriage. He raised taxes and fees $700 million in Massachusetts. He packed the court with rabidly pro-abortion, pro-homosexual judges.
You tell me how that isn't as disgraceful as what Obama is doing.
You, apparently, are contention to blindly vote Republican without doing a sliver of research on who you're voting for.
Mormon or Marxist???? I’ll be voting for the Mormon on Nov 6th 2012 an easy choice.
Any truth to the rumor Sir Thomas More told “Yo mama is so fat...” jokes before his beheading ?
Trojan Horse is an easy choice, eh ?
Make sure the Trojan Horse is white!
Romney needs them....
if he can muster their support, and they give it to him, I have no doubt we'll have a landslide against bamey boy...
to what price, we don't know....
It wouldn't surprise me at all. I think that a lot of nominal Christians are going to be shocked when they begin to learn about Mormonism and a lot of Republicans (like nodems) are going to be dismayed when they learn of Romney's real political record and Romney takes his predicted leftward turn in the general election. Republicans are likely to stay home in droves. All Obama has to do is avoid sprouting horns between now and general election and he's back in thanks to the GOP-e, the Romneybots, and their sycophants.
I think that your analysis misses the mark for a couple of reasons. For every Mormon who votes for Romney because he is a Mormon, there are multiple Christians who won't vote for Romney for the same reason. There won't be a big influx of new Mormon voters since most Mormons vote anyway and usually vote Republican. Finally, there just aren't that many Mormons in the U.S. even if you believe their inflated membership numbers.
We are being scammed so badly with romney I cannot believe this is happening in this country.
Yes, by all means...
RELEASE THE OSMONDS!!!
; )
Yeah. Conservative Republicans are just boiling over with enthusiasm for Mittens.
Yep.
And if I’m not doing something urgent like folding my socks on election day, I might even go vote... for the down-ticket candidates.
Everything I ever needed to know about the Mormons I learned from South Park.
I like the Jehovah Witnesses. Years ago they used to visit my house regularly and I would have them in and they would sit on my couch and tell me stuff. Really nice people. They always had little pamphlets, and sometimes they gave me real books.
Then one wintry day their van got stuck in the snow down near the end of my driveway, on the other side of the creek where the driveway curves and goes uphill to the road. There were bunch of them in that van and they were stuck there for awhile. Finally I saw a tow truck come and winch them out. They never came back after that.
Please see my Post #64 which will reply to your concerns. Also, I don’t know how old you are, but I remember 1964 when LBJ trounced Goldwater. (I was a Junior in H.S.) They said Conservatism was dead and would never be resurrected. When Gerald Ford got the nod over Reagan in ‘76, they said: “That does it for the Conservative wing of the Party; it’s finished.”
Now, Please read my Post #64. Thanks.
you nailed it ... perfectly ... the MSM already have their “Truth aAbout Mormons” daily news “factoids” in the can, ready for 24/7 viewing ... IF Willard gets the nomination ...
isn’t it a GOOD thing if the Mormons mobilize to help Romney beat Obama, the democrat?
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Of course!!! I’m not against the Mormons, or anyone else, mobilizing to get the Marxist Muslim out of the White House.
Your point #3 in your Post #84 describes Rick Santorum to a “T”. I’m a Newt guy, but if Rick could have stuck with the issue that matter, and known when to STFU, he might have won this nomination. But, Rick Santorum became Rick INSANEtorum and blew the Conservative’s last chance for 2012.
Did they mobilize for Harry Reid?
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No, the very popular, Pro boxer, Manny Pacquio, mobilized the minorities and paid for buses to drive them to the polls enmasse. Plus, we had a weak candidate up against him. I was for Sharron Angle from beginning to the end, but, another candidate could have defeated “Dirty Harry”. I’m a member of the Tea Party, but this time, the Tea Party darling was out of her league.
How is a Maoist Mormon an improvement over a Marxist Muslim?
Mittster is Obama’s mini-me.......and will be whupped like a rented mule by the MSM. By the end of October the MSM will have him indistinguishable from Warren Jeffords of the FLDS.
Well, we have a Black President for whom 98% of the Black voted for as a “block”. Conservatives vote as a block. Liberals vote as a block. Gays vote as a block. Pro-choice and Pro-Lifers vote as a block. Environmentalist wackos vote as a block. Thanks to “block” voting, we now have the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Louie Farrakhan having open access to the Marxist Muslim in the White House. Now, what was your point?
The Mormons got their asses handed to them in the Arizona governor election (Salmon vs Jonny Napalitino). The estrogen came out in droves. Surprising since the candidate was a very iffy woman.
One of the very foundations of mormonism teaches racism,
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Who gives a crap? Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louie Farrakhan and B. Hussein Obama teach racism against “whitey”. When it all boils down, the majority of ALL AMERICANS ARE RACIST to some degree. This is a friggin’ non-issue.
I felt that way about Gingrich — if he had stuck to attacking Obama, and been dismissive of the attacks against him, and continued to voice a positive vision instead of going after Bain capital, he could have won Florida and been President. But he became the Gingrich we all remember from the 1990s, the one who got into a snit about being stuck on the back of Air Force One.
But you know, you get the candidates who are willing to run, warts and all. Perry would have been great, if he had just waited two months instead of running while still doped up on medication because he just had back surgery. Santorum is Santorum, Gingrich is Gingrich. Unfortunately, both were flawed candidates.
The point, which you demonstrate quite well, is that average voters are more likely to vote for someone who they can identify with, rather than against a candidate who they feel no connection to. This is how bloc voting works.
The fact conservatives, Christians, gun owners, pro-lifers, rural conservatives and the middle class don’t identify with Romney gives Obama a big edge.
Please see my Post #129.
How is a Maoist Mormon an improvement over a Marxist Muslim?
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Then vote for Obama dude!!!
Ref. Your Post #123: You may very well be right. Let the good times roll mama. Let’s all go to hell in a hand basket together. But, we Conservatives must share some of the blame. Please see my Post #129.
The Warren Jeffords grenade was lit by Hillary in early 2008 who thought she would get to run against Mitt.
Re 129......the biggest impediment we struggle with is that We the People have yet to grasp that the Two Party system is NOT the Dems-GOP.....nor is it Liberals-Conservatives.
It Iis DC-Flyover Country. The Lords and Masters -the peons and peasants. The day that reality dawns is the end of Federalism. They keep trying to literally dilute that understanding in Flyover Country.
>> How is a Maoist Mormon an improvement over a Marxist Muslim?
> Then vote for Obama dude!!!
Who says I have to support either of these two candidates? The GOPe?
There are a number of third-party candidates running, or one could always stay home.
Again! -- and as long as I am permitted to post replies I say again -- my issue is NOT that Mormons are (were) or are (were) not racists! Above I put racism vis-a-vis Mormons in quotes -- that is suppose to signal something.
To the best of my ability I attempted to explain more than once the reason that I posted my original reply; to wit,
I heard Mitt Romney brag that his dad George walked out of the 1964 Republican Convention to protest Goldwater Republican racism (no quotes bracket the word racism! but it was an audio maybe his text version does say "racism", to be fair).
FOR FIFTY F'IN YEARS STARTING DURING YEARS 1963 AND 1964 THE ROCKEFELLER REPUBLICANS LIKE GEORGE ROMNEY CALLED ME AND MILLIONS OF OTHER AMERICANS RACISTS -- AND GEORGE ROMENY MEANT THE EXACT SAME MALICE THAT COMMIES, LIBERALS, PROGRESSIVES, BLACK NATIONALISTS -- THE LOT OF THEM -- MEANT.
So it is satisfying for me that AFTER 50 F'IN YEARS a son of a Rockefeller Republican has to go through what he -- George Romney -- helped put us Goldwater supporters through. Thank you, Lord!
Yes I shall vote for Romney, the son.
You're completely mixing up ideology and positions, which people SHOULD vote on, with ethnicity, which should have nothing to do with someone's vote, unless you're a bigot for your own "kind."
My point was clear. I was saying that if Mormons are voting 98% for the Mormon candidate, then Mormons must see themselves as different from other Christians, even though they claim they're just a mainstream Christian religion like every other one.
Of your examples, people SHOULD vote on the below, what else would you vote on if not the issues and policies you want the government to enact? These have nothing to do with race or gender. Of course some of these tie in with religious values, but that gets to my point. If Mormons have the same religious values as regular Christians, why do they all seem to think the Mormon candidate is so much better? Mormons must not have the same values as Catholics or evangelicals if those candidates are less acceptable than the Mormon.
conservative
liberal
pro-choice
pro-life
environmentalist wacko
The other issue for me is that Romney is a product of the Utah GOP, which has protected Warren Jeffs, the FLDS and other polygamist Mormon offshoots that have engaged in child sex trafficking. Here’s a eye-opener:
God bless Texas for cleaning up the Utah GOP’s mess and putting Jeffs and ten of his top lieutenants behind bars.
The issue for me is NOT Mormons -- my issue is a Rockefeller Republican and son who just happen to be Mormons which matters not one whit vis-a-vis my issue.
The issue for me AGAIN! is the joy that it brings to me that the son of a Rockefeller Republican is being put through what his father helped put tens of millions of American through fifty years ago -- and yes IT STILL MATTERS TO ME, thank you.
.. plus, we Goldwater supporters will put America first and not try to sabotage the ticket and help the Dems.
I understand. For me it is a “Protecting children from the sex trade” as well as “Law and Order” issue with the Utah GOP. We’re not talking about 200 years ago, or even a 100 years ago. We’re talking in the last decade. The State of Utah, which is controlled at all levels by the GOP, gave a pass to a man who audiotaped himself raping 12-year-old children in the name of Jesus.
In any other red state (like Texas), in any swing state, and even in the majority of blue states, Warren Steed Jeffs would have faced justice a long time ago. However, the State of Utah, under heavy Republican control, refused to get involved when the perpetrator was the head of the largest Mormon fundamentalist sect located in the state.
To me this is proof that the Utah GOP do not share my values.
I have a theory about that. Whether due to cowardice and/or cold political calculation, I think the conservative big hitters didn't want to spend 24/7 fundraising to counter Mitt and his smear machine. If just one of this set: Palin, DeMint, Thune, etc. would have run, I think that the ABR vote which was probably 70-80% of the Republican voters would have coalesced around that person and wiped Romney off the map.
I think that Rick Perry underestimated how much he'd be affected by the painkillers for his back surgery. He might not be Winston Churchill in oratory but he's not that bad.
I think the ones that annoy me the most are the conservatives who have thrown in the towel and have just resigned themselves to Romney. Stand by your principles and take the fight to the convention. Romney hasn't clinched the nomination yet, so let's not surrender. Some things are worth standing up for and IMO, political conservatism is one of them. Some people who should be ashamed of themselves are handing over the keys to the Titanic to our modern-day Edward Smith.
“WE, THE CONSERVATIVE WING OF THE GOP, DESERVE MOST OF THE BLAME.”
If we had any say in the day to day operations and long term direction of the GOP I would agree. We do not, and I submit nor will we ever. The -purpose- of the GOP is to be a hole in the conservatives’ bucket. No doubt many will dispute that, but “the stupid party” appears very canny indeed if one viewsd them from the perspective of deliberate saboteurs; a Fifth Column of the Progressives.
“I’d vote for a 3-legged, sh** eating dog before I’d vote for Obama, “
So would I!
But I won’t vote for Romney.
The Warren Jeffords grenade was lit by Hillary in early 2008 who thought she would get to run against Mitt.
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Well, the Mormon scandals have nothing on the Evangelicals? Do you remember Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker? I could name more, but, no use.
Who says I have to support either of these two candidates? The GOPe?
There are a number of third-party candidates running, or one could always stay home.
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That’s a vote for Obama. But, do whatever your conscience dictates you do. You only have to answer to yourself.....
.....and your grandchildren.
I think that Rick Perry underestimated how much he’d be affected by the painkillers for his back surgery.
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I’m a native Texan. We’ve had Rick Perry in office, in some capacity, for 25 years; kept there by the GOP machine. Dude was dumb before he ever had back surgery.
And I don’t care what you do, but your behavior, as evidenced on this thread, is not warranted, under any circumstances. Who do you “think” you are telling a person who disagree with you to go to DU?
It’s petulant and puerile in its substance.
Age is no substitute for reason. You think that age gives you the right to behave the way you are?
If anything, it only demonstrates a complete lack of maturity on your part.
Who do you “think” you are telling a person who disagree with you to go to DU?
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And who do you think you are telling me what I’m thinking or trying to do? I’m not trying to force anyone to give up their conservative values and I resented you assuming that you knew my intent.
Now it’s supposed to be my fault because you “resented” my interpretation of what you wrote?
Better get your reading glasses on...
Here, in your own words...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2868995/posts?page=72#72
Your “intent” was made clear when you tried to smear any who politely disagree; (In your own words... “Now, go on over to the DU with the other B. Hussein Obama supporters and Marxist Muslims.”) and then ramp it up into a flame war.
Why don’t you go and post to one of your other pro-Romney sycophants? It’ll be less stressful and you won’t get twisted up in trying to remember what you wrote.
TTFN
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