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Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law
Fox43 ^ | March 28, 2012 | By David G. Savage

Posted on 03/28/2012 9:44:18 AM PDT by Bill Buckner

The court’s conservatives sounded as though they had determined for themselves that the 2,700-page measure must be declared unconstitutional.

"One way or another, Congress will have to revisit it in toto," said Justice Antonin Scalia.

Agreeing, Justice Anthony Kennedy said it would be an "extreme proposition" to allow the various insurance regulations to stand after the mandate was struck down.

Meanwhile, the court's liberal justices argued for restraint. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said the court should do a "salvage job," not undertake a “wrecking operation." But she looked to be out-voted.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. said they shared the view of Scalia and Kennedy that the law should stand or fall in total. Along with Justice Clarence Thomas, they would have a majority to strike down the entire statute as unconstitutional.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare; robertscourt; ruling; scotus; scotusocareday3
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1 posted on 03/28/2012 9:44:23 AM PDT by Bill Buckner
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To: Bill Buckner

Awesome sauce!


2 posted on 03/28/2012 9:47:00 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Bill Buckner
Ginsburg said the court should do a "salvage job,"

... because it's the Court's function to rewrite the legislature's laws ....

3 posted on 03/28/2012 9:47:12 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Bill Buckner

I guess today I am an honorary member of the Show Me State. Show me the ruling.


4 posted on 03/28/2012 9:47:56 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Bill Buckner

But, but. What about the “children” that are now on their parent’s insurance? What will become of them, the poor dears?


5 posted on 03/28/2012 9:49:55 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Bill Buckner

Please get rid of this awful death care bill..


6 posted on 03/28/2012 9:50:58 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Bill Buckner

I am getting ready for my “Happy Dance”!!!!!!

All this talk of Single Payer by the libs has probably assured that the SCOTUS will strike the whole thing down. Libs are so full of themselves, they can’t keep their mouths shut. I have to thank them.


7 posted on 03/28/2012 9:51:07 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Bill Buckner

Don’t bet the farm on it just so you can play MegaMillions.

As Rush said yesterday, be wary of the justices’ words and their possible actions.

They will be striking down the most major accomplishment of Obama’s presidency, if they do.

I would be leary of thinking they would subject the first black president to such a humiliation. They will find some way to salvage a major part of the bill.


8 posted on 03/28/2012 9:51:07 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Izzy Dunne

Sit the old lady down, with a box of pencils and some note pads and tell her “You better get started, after all, it was your idea”.


9 posted on 03/28/2012 9:52:11 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Bill Buckner

Does anyone remember Obama giving the smackdown to the Court during the State of the Union?

Payback’s a b!tch.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 9:52:40 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Bill Buckner

Regardless of what they rule, won’t it be late June before we hear the results?


11 posted on 03/28/2012 9:53:03 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: TomGuy

I would be leary of thinking they would subject the first black president to such a humiliation. They will find some way to salvage a major part of the bill.

You’ve been listening to them too much.
Remember: Justice is blind.


12 posted on 03/28/2012 9:53:51 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Hammerhead

Payback...I’ve thought the same thing.


13 posted on 03/28/2012 9:54:15 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: crusty old prospector

Flush it!!!! Don’t give McConnell and Boehner a chance to “reach across the aisle to their good friends” and proceed to muck it all up.


14 posted on 03/28/2012 9:54:18 AM PDT by radioone
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To: Bill Buckner

But, but, but I wanted to be FORCED to buy a ‘race sensitivity on-line class’. Only the MSM left to bully us - and without the law behind them? The horror.


15 posted on 03/28/2012 9:54:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Bill Buckner

If Justice Kennedy and the conservatives strike down Obamacare, I fully expect us to throw nation-wide parties celebrating its demise.


16 posted on 03/28/2012 9:54:50 AM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: Bill Buckner

Sending prayers.


17 posted on 03/28/2012 9:54:50 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Bill Buckner
If Justice Ginsburg is talking about "salvage", I would take that as a sign that the entire bill is in big, big trouble. Not only is Justice Kennedy poised to vote with the Court's conservatives, but I would not be surprised to see another one of the liberals concur with the majority at least in part (specifically with regard to the insurance mandate).

If the Republicans were smart (I know, I know...) they would plan to get out ahead of the decision with a full-fledged plan to replace this abomination with a market-based, fully-portable plan that empowers individuals, and not the state to make health care decisions. And run hard on it.

18 posted on 03/28/2012 9:57:19 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Bill Buckner

“An Obama administration lawyer, urging caution, said it would be “extraordinary” for the court to throw out the entire law. About 2.5 million young people under age 26 are on their parents’ insurance now because of the new law. If it were struck down entirely, “2.5 million of them would be thrown off the insurance rolls,” said Edwin Kneedler.”

So I guess the Constitution should not matter since we have already done something not allowed by it. /s


19 posted on 03/28/2012 9:57:47 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Hammerhead
It's not payback - it's the court - hopefully - protecting our right to be free.

If the Court allows this abomination to stand, liberals will be forcing us to buy the kind of food they think is good for us next. Elite liberals are mean little control freaks - the less power they have, the better.

20 posted on 03/28/2012 9:58:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Bill Buckner

Our founding fathers dreams and plans lay in wait for final word if the Republic, our Liberty and Freedom shall be dissolved or not. Shall we be subject to enslavement by what was once our government or not?

Is this the beginning of the road back or the end of the road for the USA?


21 posted on 03/28/2012 9:59:36 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Hammerhead

It’s not payback ...

Would YOU hammerhead like to be forced to buy a Volt? Liberals like that car - they think it’s best. And that YOU don’t have the wit to make choices for yourself.


22 posted on 03/28/2012 9:59:45 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Bill Buckner
I'll believe it when I see it.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said the court should do a "salvage job," not undertake a “wrecking operation."

When the Judicial branch performs such a "line-item veto" on ANY law is nothing short of legislating from the bench (to which I'd expect this shameless little yotch to say, "So, what's the matter with that?").

On a related note, if by some miracle the Obamanation loses in November, I wonder how many aging libs on the SCOTUS will immediately resign, giving him and his 'RAT-controlled Senate the opportunity to pack the Court before he leaves office.

23 posted on 03/28/2012 9:59:57 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: radioone
Flush it!!!! Don’t give McConnell and Boehner a chance to “reach across the aisle to their good friends” and proceed to muck it all up.

This is their job in this one party/two faction corrupt congress.

24 posted on 03/28/2012 9:59:56 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Cato in PA

I’ll bring the beer!


25 posted on 03/28/2012 10:00:03 AM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: Bill Buckner

Smite it with furious vengeance.


26 posted on 03/28/2012 10:00:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bill Buckner

This is very premature.

There are only 4 conservative justices. We’re relying on Kennedy to determine the validity of the US Constitution here.


27 posted on 03/28/2012 10:00:21 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Bill Buckner

I sure hope so! Of course, Obama will be back immediately with something equally bad, or perhaps just impose it extra-legally. Actually, it won’t be immediate, but right after his reelection (while he’s also busy selling us down the river to the Russians).


28 posted on 03/28/2012 10:01:43 AM PDT by livius
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To: Cato in PA

Keeps reminding me of the March on Washington, that was a shining moment.

Remember Reid shoved this through w/o hearings and against the will of the people.


29 posted on 03/28/2012 10:01:46 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Bill Buckner; All
As it is, the Constitution's protections for individual liberty are hanging by a thread.

Perhaps the Justices fear the wrath of future generations who, using current and future technologies, will read their nation's history, and know that this Court's decision on this blatant "power grab" disguised in various semantic terms as related to "health care," either preserved their individual liberty, or contributed to the destruction of their freedom.

"The People" in the 1930's through the rest of the 20th Century did not have ready access to every word of the reasoned debate of the principles essential to liberty. Now, they do, and that must be a powerful motivator for this and future Courts who decide on matters of freedom versus government tyranny over individuals.

No longer will their actions be measured by current opinion, but must stand the scrutiny of being compared to the ideas of the Framers of America's Constitution.

"Posterity! you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom! I hope you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it." - John Adams, Letter to Abigail Adams, 1777

"[Our Departed Ancestors] task (and nobly they performed it) [was] to possess themselves, and through themselves, us, of this goodly land; and to uprear upon its hills and its valleys, a political edifice of liberty and equal rights; 'tis ours only, to transmit these, the former, unprofaned by the foot of an invader; the latter, undecayed by the lapse of time and untorn by usurpation, to the latest generation that fate shall permit the world to know. This task of gratitude to our fathers, justice to ourselves, duty to posterity, and love for our species in general, all imperatively require us faithfully to perform. How then shall we perform it? At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!--All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." - Abraham Lincoln, January 27, 1838

30 posted on 03/28/2012 10:01:54 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Bill Buckner

Hey Joe Biden, THIS IS A BFD!!!!


31 posted on 03/28/2012 10:02:07 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Bill Buckner

Please, Please, Please don’t be getting our hopes up!


32 posted on 03/28/2012 10:02:10 AM PDT by conservativesister
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To: Bill Buckner

Great. Get rid of the whole damnable thing. The same with the entire Obama administration. I want them fired “in toto” come next November, and frankly some of them ought to be investigated.

I will dance in the streets the day this administration is out on its big ears.


33 posted on 03/28/2012 10:02:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: TomGuy
I would be leary of thinking they would subject the first black president to such a humiliation.

That be WASIST!

Besides, there is little the SCOTUS can do to 'humiliate' Bill Clinton.

(wait, what? you DID say "the first black president" didn't you?)

To Hell with 0bama, let the little Kenyan sonuvabitch be humiliated.
34 posted on 03/28/2012 10:03:17 AM PDT by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: Bill Buckner

This concerns me somewhat. I’m quite unsure as to how Kennedy is going to rule on the mandate, and am concerned he may go the wrong way if he doesn’t want to scrap the whole thing.

BTW - I’ve always blamed Bob Stanley.


35 posted on 03/28/2012 10:04:23 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Bill Buckner
The administration indicated it was prepared to accept a ruling that some of the insurance reforms should fall if the mandate were struck down... the court should go no further.

Looks like we may be heading for a "how many divisions does the Supreme Court command?" moment.

"Justice without force is powerless; force without justice is tyrannical.
- Blaise Pascal

36 posted on 03/28/2012 10:04:40 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Bill Buckner
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said the court should do a "salvage job," not undertake a “wrecking operation." But she looked to be out-voted.

Anyone know whose Constitution she was reading when she said this?

37 posted on 03/28/2012 10:04:59 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Myth Romney: "Governor Goodhair" is really just a Whig.)
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To: Bill Buckner
About 2.5 million young people under age 26 are on their parents' insurance now because of the new law. If it were struck down entirely, ...

One dirty secret is that many of these children are NOT carried on their parent's insurance because of the additional expense.

In order for parents to carry every child up to 26 years old, regardless of employment status, marriage status or where they live, someone has to pay the piper and this cost is added to the parent's insurance coverage as a supplement.

38 posted on 03/28/2012 10:04:59 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: dead

Rush just said Obama hopes it gets struck down, then they move to the single payer model and it’s game over for America.


39 posted on 03/28/2012 10:06:21 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Bill Buckner
I'll believe it when I see it.

Ronald Reagan, “Trust But Verify”.
Barack Obama, Whatever you say Vladimir. Here's one of my Reelection Hoodies, it makes you look like a Gangsta.

40 posted on 03/28/2012 10:06:56 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Bill Buckner
The administration indicated it was prepared to accept a ruling that some of the insurance reforms should fall if the mandate were struck down.

And if the administration is not prepared to accept the ruling of SCOTUS?

41 posted on 03/28/2012 10:07:17 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Cato in PA
...I fully expect us to throw nation-wide parties celebrating its demise.

I will be dropping to my knees thanking God that this abomination has ended.

42 posted on 03/28/2012 10:07:34 AM PDT by First A Patriot (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God)
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To: Bill Buckner

Kill it all! Death to ObamaCare!

ObamaCare destroys the entire current system, that takes care of 90% of America, so he can cover the 10% who don't have health care.

What kind of moron tears down their entire house to build a small addition? That's what ObamaCare does.

43 posted on 03/28/2012 10:09:21 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Bill Buckner

All members of Congress who voted for this unconstitutional law who are up for reelection should be held to task as to why they voted for a bill and especially if they even read the bill before voting.


44 posted on 03/28/2012 10:10:14 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Bill Buckner

Good riddance to bad rubbish!


45 posted on 03/28/2012 10:10:30 AM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: Bill Buckner

Iknow many freepers hate Bush and Repubiicans but they did put 2 good justices on the Supreme court Alito and Roberts.
we can’t let Obama win and put 3 more Marxists on the Supreme court. Yeah Janice Rogers Brown would have been better but we got 2 good ones from Bush.


46 posted on 03/28/2012 10:10:30 AM PDT by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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To: newgeezer

That’s quite the defeatist attitude you’ve got going there.

Wow!


47 posted on 03/28/2012 10:10:30 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Solid Conservative Values. A Man You Can Trust. "Etch-a-Sketch 2012!" /sarc)
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To: Bill Buckner

Iknow many freepers hate Bush and Repubiicans but they did put 2 good justices on the Supreme court Alito and Roberts.
we can’t let Obama win and put 3 more Marxists on the Supreme court. Yeah Janice Rogers Brown would have been better but we got 2 good ones from Bush.


48 posted on 03/28/2012 10:10:36 AM PDT by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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To: Cato in PA
If Justice Kennedy and the conservatives strike down Obamacare, I fully expect us to throw nation-wide parties celebrating its demise.

Nation wide parties will be thrown. They won't be in celebration though, and I don't want to be anywhere near them.

49 posted on 03/28/2012 10:11:03 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Bill Buckner

I don’t know if I would go that far in saying how the Justices would rule based on questioning. I’ve seen these dudes look like they were going to go one direction and the ruling go the other way. I’ll pop the champagne cork when the actual ruling comes down.


50 posted on 03/28/2012 10:11:07 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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