Posted on 03/27/2012 9:53:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone
A senior analyst with the liberal activist group Media Matters tweeted an apology on Tuesday after calling journalist Matt Drudge a racist and accusing him of using a phony photo of Trayvon Martin.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/27/media-matters-honcho-sorry-after-blasting-drudge-for-trayvon-photo/#ixzz1qNra9maY
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“senior analyst with the liberal activist group Media Matters” this line gave me a chuckle :)
Senior analyst is the pc title for “lead bullsh*tter”.
The story is saying that the picture on Michelle Malkin’s website, purported to be an older Trayvon, shirtless flashing gang signs was not actually Trayvon. Does anyone know for sure?
Maybe now they’ll issue an apology to Zimmerman.
He is being tried by the media, with little evidence available.
That particular picture is not Trayvon Martin. It’s a different Treyvon martin.
The gold teeth pic is him.
Zimmerman is a Democrat and is completely innocent of any crime. The vicious little thug died in hand-to-hand combat going for Zimmermans gun.
Just another preprogrammed Democrat party propaganda show, similar to the fake Fluke hystrionics and years in advance planned attempt to silence conservative talk radio.
More media dog and pony shows yet to come.
“The first time I saw the pictures the MSM was running of Martin I knew they were not of a 17 year old.”
That’s like me reading about this online and Zimmerman being called “white,” then turning on the tv news and seeing he was actually Hispanic. I literally gasped.
Apparently “done more to debase American news coverage than anyone in history of country” and “oops, never mind, yeah he got it right” is a pretty fine line.
I don’t know for sure, but the pic of the kid flipping the double bird didn’t look like Martin imo.
More interesting is the background photo Trayvon chose to set the tone for his execrable Twitter presence:
Dat dude be rapper Corey Miller, aka C-Murder, who is doing life without parole for beating up and shooting to death 16-year-old Steve Thomas in 2002 at a night club in Harvey, Louisiana. Quite the role model for the up and coming gang banger!
So, now we know from where young Trayvon was coming when he asked the Neighborhood Watch guy if he had a problem, the Neighborhood Watch guy said, "No", and Trayvon, feeling his oats, said, "You do, now!" Excellent last words!
I don’t know that he was a vicious little thug.
But we can’t allow this horrible death to be used as an excuse to disarm us.
How do you know what Martin looks like?
From his picture. There is a mark (it looks like a scar)across his left eyebrow. There are other defining marks too.
There will NEVER be an excuse to disarm me. NEVER. NONE. They can try.
And you know this absolute how?
It was not a “horrible death” if he was on top of Z, bashing his skull against the ground. People get killed that way. “Stand your ground” is moot if you are on your back getting beaten into unconsciousness or death.
I've probably missed it, but I haven't seen a lot of discussion about why Zimmerman's lawyer seemed to take Stand Your Ground off the table. At first, that had a bunch of people scratching their head since it seemed like an important and beneficial statute -- but the lawyer indicated that they would not use it.
Of course, as you say, no one needs Stand Your Ground if they are flat on their back, getting their head smashed. In that situation, the shoot can easily be seen as righteous by any rational human.
I think the lawyer indicated that Martin's actions were legitimate even under standard self-defense doctrine. This leaves Stand Your Ground as a backup.
Right. I expect the physical evidence will bear this out.
Since he was patrolling the neighborhood, I don't think it applies:
"(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that persons will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and..."
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.013.html
The statute that contains the stand your ground allowance also covers self defense while retreating, or when unable to retreat.
The lawyer's remark is a reflection of the incident - the incident has no evidence that Zimmerman stood his ground.
The double bird flip pic is of a TM of Savannah GA, not the TM of FL of interest. This has been known for a few days at least. Ask the Admin Mods, they are sick of deleting posts using it. I’m almost surprised there hasn’t been a Breaking News announcement not to post it any more.
What an unfortunate "position" to have with Media Matters.
Ah, “Media Splatters”. Water carriers for the regime.
It applies anywhere Zimmerman is allowed to be, legally. It does not permit trespassers (e.g., home invaders and burglars) to stand their ground, but standing ground is not limited to ones own home or auto.
The provision you cited covers the home and auto scenarios. A different provision covers the scenarios involving other places one may lawfully be.
776.012 Use of force in defense of person.--A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or
(2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013 [which is the section you block-quoted]
Assume the "no duty to retreat" phrase is removed from the statute. The state would have to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman could have retreated while he was overwhelmed with superior force.
There is a thorough discussion of this at Florida's Self-Defense Laws - David Kopel (volokh.com) - March 27, 2012
For now, it should be noted that neither the M narrative or the Z narrative has anything to do with a duty to retreat. The retreat issue would only be relevant if Martin were the aggressor, and Z had the opportunity to escape from Martin in complete safety. Then, and only then, would different state standards about retreat be relevant. Simply put, everyone who has claimed that Florida's retreat rule affect the legal disposition of the controversy is either misinformed or mendacious.
I dont know that he was a vicious little thug.
Thanks for the clarification.

MJ-Rosenberg - senior analyst with the liberal activist group Media Matters
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Because he has a scar under his right eye visible in all pics that are him.
Absolute.
Stand Your Ground means you’re allowed to fight back and not forced legally to retreat.
It could not be applicable in a situation where you are getting beaten lying on the ground and have not possibility of retreating.
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