Posted on 03/27/2012 9:53:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone
A senior analyst with the liberal activist group Media Matters tweeted an apology on Tuesday after calling journalist Matt Drudge a racist and accusing him of using a phony photo of Trayvon Martin.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/27/media-matters-honcho-sorry-after-blasting-drudge-for-trayvon-photo/#ixzz1qNra9maY
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
I think the lawyer indicated that Martin's actions were legitimate even under standard self-defense doctrine. This leaves Stand Your Ground as a backup.
Right. I expect the physical evidence will bear this out.
Since he was patrolling the neighborhood, I don't think it applies:
"(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and..."
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.013.html
The statute that contains the stand your ground allowance also covers self defense while retreating, or when unable to retreat.
The lawyer's remark is a reflection of the incident - the incident has no evidence that Zimmerman stood his ground.
The double bird flip pic is of a TM of Savannah GA, not the TM of FL of interest. This has been known for a few days at least. Ask the Admin Mods, they are sick of deleting posts using it. I’m almost surprised there hasn’t been a Breaking News announcement not to post it any more.
What an unfortunate "position" to have with Media Matters.
Ah, “Media Splatters”. Water carriers for the regime.
It applies anywhere Zimmerman is allowed to be, legally. It does not permit trespassers (e.g., home invaders and burglars) to stand their ground, but standing ground is not limited to ones own home or auto.
The provision you cited covers the home and auto scenarios. A different provision covers the scenarios involving other places one may lawfully be.
776.012 Use of force in defense of person.--A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or
(2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013 [which is the section you block-quoted]
Assume the "no duty to retreat" phrase is removed from the statute. The state would have to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman could have retreated while he was overwhelmed with superior force.
There is a thorough discussion of this at Florida's Self-Defense Laws - David Kopel (volokh.com) - March 27, 2012
For now, it should be noted that neither the M narrative or the Z narrative has anything to do with a duty to retreat. The retreat issue would only be relevant if Martin were the aggressor, and Z had the opportunity to escape from Martin in complete safety. Then, and only then, would different state standards about retreat be relevant. Simply put, everyone who has claimed that Florida's retreat rule affect the legal disposition of the controversy is either misinformed or mendacious.
I don’t know that he was a vicious little thug.
Thanks for the clarification.
MJ-Rosenberg - senior analyst with the liberal activist group Media Matters
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Because he has a scar under his right eye visible in all pics that are him.
Absolute.
Stand Your Ground means you’re allowed to fight back and not forced legally to retreat.
It could not be applicable in a situation where you are getting beaten lying on the ground and have not possibility of retreating.
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