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Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin
MSNBC ^ | March 25, 2012

Posted on 03/25/2012 12:30:48 PM PDT by Steelfish

Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin

By NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services

A woman who says she and her roommate witnessed the final moments of Trayvon Martin's life told Dateline NBC that George Zimmerman had "his hands pressed on his back" and "never turned him over or tried to help him."

Zimmerman's lawyer, when shown part of the interview being aired Sunday night on Dateline, emphasized that his client would be claiming self-defense.

"I think there were efforts made to render aid to Trayvon," Craig Sonner told NBC's TODAY show.

Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman "straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon's body, and his hands pressed on his back."

Cutcher added that Zimmerman told her and her roommate to call the police. "Zimmerman never turned him over or tried to help him or CPR or anything," Cutcher said.

Sonner also reiterated what he had said in recent days, that Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and a gash to the back of his head.

A friend of Zimmerman's who appeared on TODAY with Sonner added that Zimmerman, 28, was distraught over the teen's death.

"Right after the shooting he couldn't stop crying," said Joe Oliver, who is African American and a former TV reporetr and anchor in Orlando.

Zimmerman has not been charged in the Feb. 26 shooting that has ignited racial tensions and raised questions about the Sanford police's handling of the case. Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

In a separate interview Sunday, Oliver said that "I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color.''

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin
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To: TASMANIANRED

Yep.

I miss-remembered one fact about the Federal trial, though. Briseno was tried, and acquitted.


201 posted on 03/25/2012 3:22:54 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: pops88

Yes, and when I use a real key board you may have a point, but you probably are covered up going after the people that use text in their writings, do u pull your hair out.


202 posted on 03/25/2012 3:22:54 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: 101stAirborneVet
Sanford police turned over an investigative summary packet that included a charge of manslaughter.

782.07 Manslaughter; aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult; aggravated manslaughter of a child; aggravated manslaughter of an officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical technician, or a paramedic.—

(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(2) A person who causes the death of any elderly person or disabled adult by culpable negligence under s. 825.102(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(3) A person who causes the death of any person under the age of 18 by culpable negligence under s. 827.03(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of a child, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(4) A person who causes the death, through culpable negligence, of an officer as defined in s. 943.10(14), a firefighter as defined in s. 112.191, an emergency medical technician as defined in s. 401.23, or a paramedic as defined in s. 401.23, while the officer, firefighter, emergency medical technician, or paramedic is performing duties that are within the course of his or her employment, commits aggravated manslaughter of an officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical technician, or a paramedic, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

History.—RS 2384; GS 3209; RGS 5039; CGL 7141; s. 715, ch. 71-136; s. 180, ch. 73-333; s. 15, ch. 74-383; s. 6, ch. 75-298; s. 12, ch. 96-322; s. 2, ch. 2002-74.

203 posted on 03/25/2012 3:23:04 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: BCR #226
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein.

George, IMO, has stood up to evil. Until evidence comes forward that convinces me otherwise, I will stand with him.

204 posted on 03/25/2012 3:23:45 PM PDT by alligator (To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant.)
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To: sauropod

Knock off the personal BS, you line has nothing to do with the discussion.


205 posted on 03/25/2012 3:25:52 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

I don’t agree with you that following someone is ‘starting a fight’. A poke in the nose is starting a fight, not following someone. Following someone is just that, followoing someone. Don’t tell me that following someone is starting a fight.


206 posted on 03/25/2012 3:26:33 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: BCR #226
-- Define a "non-deadly" attack.
Any physical attack must be considered potentially deadly.
--

I don't know if I can define it, but I can describe a few.

Attempting to restrain a person from moving, when you have no right to do so. Blocking their exit from a car, for example, without touching them. Or, a bear hug, but not so tight as to prevent breathing. Some drunks in bars get feisty as far as "stealing kisses" and/or "copping feels."

-- If the reports of the punk attacking the shooter first are accurate, the punk got what he deserved. --

I don't think he deserved to die, and it's too bad Zimmerman couldn't turn the tables without resort to a firearm. But, the law will easily find that Zimmerman was reasonably in fear of serious injury, and therefore justified in use of deadly force to make it stop.

I feel bad for everybody involved. And those who are assigning blame to Zimmerman ought to be ashamed.

207 posted on 03/25/2012 3:26:35 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: org.whodat

I don’t agree with you that following someone is ‘starting a fight’. A poke in the nose is starting a fight, not following someone. Following someone is just that, followoing someone. Don’t tell me that following someone is starting a fight.


208 posted on 03/25/2012 3:26:50 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: kanawa
All we have done in this case is strike fear in the hearts of all our brave neighborhood watch LEO’s and will lead to their being less diligent crime they see about to take place in their neighborhood block jurisdictions.
209 posted on 03/25/2012 3:27:40 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: jwalsh07
-- Wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn? --

Thanks, but I mortaged my house and now hold title to three bridges in Brooklyn! I don't know what I'd do with a fourth.

210 posted on 03/25/2012 3:29:35 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Alice in Wonderland
THe key wording in your post is without lawful justification.

The authorities decided at that time there was justification. Do you have evidence that contradicts their findings?

Public opinion from professional race baiters may convince authorities to put this man to trial after all, but that remains to be seen.

Pandering to the black community is a disgusting habit in this country that must stop. Either it stops, or there will be a war that will put an end to many “wrong” behaviors in this country by way of massive bloodshed.

211 posted on 03/25/2012 3:30:27 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: rlmorel
He appears to be basing it on Martin's gf's opinion...
She told attorneys she then heard the 17-year-old ask "What are you following me for?"

Then a man, presumably Zimmerman, replied: "What are you doing around here?"

The girl said Trayvon must have been pushed because his headset fell off and the phone call ended.

Her opinion is just that, an opinion. No evidence at all to back it up.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-trayvon-martin-girlfriend-speaks-details-20120320,0,1939033.story

212 posted on 03/25/2012 3:31:29 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: org.whodat

I’m very glad I’m not your neighbor.

I’ve called the police before when things haven’t been right in the neighborhood.

Simple clothing is not a indication but there are plenty of indicators of hunting behavior.


213 posted on 03/25/2012 3:31:49 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Post Toasties
You can write the man that authored the law and tell him he is wrong.
214 posted on 03/25/2012 3:32:30 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Aria
I heard the 911 call. Sounded to me like Zimmerman should have done what the dispatcher said.

Amen. He clearly stated he was following the boy and was clearly told to stop doing that. If he had done that, the kid would still be alive. Sorry but IMO the kid was not looking for trouble with tea and skittles, no weapons on his person.

215 posted on 03/25/2012 3:34:26 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: kanawa

Zimmerman has a history of being a stand up guy.


216 posted on 03/25/2012 3:35:32 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: org.whodat
Are you retarded, if so, get help, other wise you maybe violating the rules here.

I saw no ad hominem attack in post # 98. Interesting that you felt compelled to respond.

217 posted on 03/25/2012 3:35:32 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
So you've posted a Florida statute, but not any evidence to establish probable cause to arrest Zimmerman for violating it.

Indeed, Zimmerman is promptly excused by: without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder

It is an affirmative defense to this statute if the person is acting in self defense. Even if you attempt to make the point that Zimmerman was the "initial aggressor", he remains excused by 776.

218 posted on 03/25/2012 3:36:22 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Hattie
was clearly told to stop doing that.

As has been proven dozens of times in these threads, no he was not.

219 posted on 03/25/2012 3:37:43 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: org.whodat

Knock it off yourself. You started it.


220 posted on 03/25/2012 3:38:25 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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