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Trayvon Martin, my son, and the Black Male Code
Google News A/P ^ | 3/24/12 | JESSE WASHINGTON

Posted on 03/24/2012 10:56:25 AM PDT by Baynative

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — I thought my son would be much older before I had to tell him about the Black Male Code. He's only 12, still sleeping with stuffed animals, still afraid of the dark. But after the Trayvon Martin tragedy, I needed to explain to my child that soon people might be afraid of him.

We were in the car on the way to school when a story about Martin came on the radio. "The guy who killed him should get arrested. The dead guy was unarmed!" my son said after hearing that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman had claimed self-defense in the shooting in Sanford, Fla.

We listened to the rest of the story, describing how Zimmerman had spotted Martin, who was 17, walking home from the store on a rainy night, the hood of his sweatshirt pulled over his head. When it was over, I turned off the radio and told my son about the rules he needs to follow to avoid becoming another Trayvon Martin — a black male who Zimmerman assumed was "suspicious" and "up to no good."

As I explained it, the Code goes like this:

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An enlightening article [or editorial] about how responsible black males have tried to educate their sons a about the racial stereotypes we still must deal with.

It is an insightful commentary, especially the closing statement.

1 posted on 03/24/2012 10:56:35 AM PDT by Baynative
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To: Baynative

Too bad he didn’t teach Treyvon not to punch people in the nose and beat them on the ground.


3 posted on 03/24/2012 10:59:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Baynative

Almost word for word what I tell my sons:

Always pay close attention to your surroundings, son, especially if you are in an poor black neighborhood where white folks are few. Understand that even though you are not a target, some people might assume you are, especially if you are wearing certain clothes.


4 posted on 03/24/2012 11:00:47 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Baynative

You should see the Code for women!


5 posted on 03/24/2012 11:01:18 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Rallies for religious freedom today - probably one near you.)
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To: Baynative

I had a conversation like that with my ten year old son:

“Boy, don’t start a fight with someone, because they may have a gun.”

I believe he’ll take that to heart and I feel better now.


6 posted on 03/24/2012 11:03:06 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: DManA

Always pay close attention to your surroundings, son, especially if you are in an poor black neighborhood where white folks are few. Understand that even though you are not a target, some people might assume you are, especially if you are wearing certain clothes.

Same code for this old woman when shopping at Walmart.


7 posted on 03/24/2012 11:04:20 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: Baynative

Hmmm, perhaps I didn’t read that article very close but I didn’t see anything about .... not beating the crap out of someone, knocking them to the ground, and breaking their nose.


8 posted on 03/24/2012 11:04:20 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: DManA

I was thinking of posting that exact thing, word for word! Well done, sir!


9 posted on 03/24/2012 11:04:43 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Baynative

I think it can go for White Male Code, too.

As I explained it, the Code goes like this:

Always pay close attention to your surroundings, son, especially if you are in an black neighborhood where white folks are few. Understand that even though you are not a racist, some people might assume you are, especially if you have a slick shaved head.

Never argue with police, but protect your dignity and take pride in humility. When confronted by someone with a badge or a gun, do not flee, fight, or put your hands anywhere other than up.

Please don’t assume, son, that all black people view you as a threat. America is better than that. Suspicion and bitterness can imprison you. But as a white male, you must go above and beyond to show strangers what type of person you really are.


10 posted on 03/24/2012 11:04:48 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Baynative
From the article

"Fast forward 25 years later," Stephney said. "We've come a long way to get nowhere."

The author can thank the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, 90% of Democrats and all the other race baiting Poverty Pimps in the so called "Civil Rights Movement.

But for some reason.....I don't believe the author will tell his son that.

11 posted on 03/24/2012 11:06:07 AM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: Baynative

Pure driveling racial clap trap!

Here is a clue Jesse.
Adolescence is a dangerous time.
It’s a time when many cherub faced kids try to define themselves as adults.

I can relate to most of what you say, but don’t make this a racial thing.


12 posted on 03/24/2012 11:08:52 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: taxcontrol

Its a good article. In it the author tells his son to be respectful, not go looking for a fight, and to submit (basically) to authority figures. Its good advice.


13 posted on 03/24/2012 11:09:58 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Too bad he didn’t teach Treyvon not to punch people in the nose and beat them on the ground.

And too bad somebody didn't teach the shooter Zimmerman not to chase an innocent person and confront them on a public street.

Seems like you forget that this kid had every right to stand his ground when Zimmerman ran up on him and began the actions that resulted in a shooting and a death.

Would you stand there and let someone run up on you and under the authority of just having a firearm treat you any old kind of way and not attempt to defend yourself?

This kid Treyvon had the right of self defense just like anyone else has when accosted by a stranger behaving in a threatening fashion.

And Zimmerman was a threat
14 posted on 03/24/2012 11:10:39 AM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: DManA

Been there done that.


15 posted on 03/24/2012 11:10:39 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Baynative
Depending on how we dress, act and speak, people might make negative assumptions about us. That doesn't mean they must be racist; it means they must be human.

And that is it in a nutshell....

16 posted on 03/24/2012 11:11:01 AM PDT by freebilly (Obama Sings While America Sinks....)
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To: Baynative

Thought experiment:

On a city street on one side there are 10 black youths wearing hoodies, smoking, swaggering, talking loudly and laughing.

On the other side of the street are 10 black youths dressed conservatively, speaking quietly, carrying bibles.

Which side of the street are you going to be walking on?


17 posted on 03/24/2012 11:12:30 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Baynative

He forgets to mention The White Male Code. Where you have to work harder and smarter to beat “preferences,” quotas, PC and “affirmative action”


18 posted on 03/24/2012 11:14:33 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Some "unifier" in the White House, huh)
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To: Baynative

My, my.... The knee-jerks are out today proving they didn’t read the article and only know what they already know....


19 posted on 03/24/2012 11:14:37 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: Baynative

“Son. When you attack people, some of them will resist. I know this is racism but all of the people you attack will probably be racist.”


20 posted on 03/24/2012 11:17:39 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Baynative

Don’t forget to tell him about the roving packs of blacks that randomly attacked people last summer there in Philly — that sort of thing kinda makes whitey a little edgy.


21 posted on 03/24/2012 11:18:08 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: freebilly

Yes... I noticed that as well.


22 posted on 03/24/2012 11:18:08 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Irenic

An interesting point is that having a shaved head is a good look if you are black, but if you are white, you are a “skinhead racist” it’s a guttural reaction.

Nobody ever called Eddie Clean Head Vinson a skinhead racist LOL


23 posted on 03/24/2012 11:18:15 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I’m SO sick of this.

My entire life, I have had to fear going into “certain areas.” Couldn’t enjoy freely roaming ANYWHERE in our society, because, well, people who went into these areas got attacked, shot, their cars vandalized, raped ....you name, it. By BLACKS!!!

And whites. And by people of pretty much any race, but MOSTLY in black areas.

They’ve terroized society for decades. We’ve poured BILLIONS into them to be educated, to take care of them because they can’t take care of themselves ... and paid out our butts to get them to be civilized. It’s improving at a snail’s pace ....and yet now THEY are the victims???

They can F off. I’ve had it up to here with their victim mentality. I hope this turns into riots, and I REALLY hope some of these types get finished off in whatever “trouble” they decide to stir up.

Sorry, just really pissed and absolutely SICK of these poeple and their advocates in this society. They just refuse to let up — they want us to either “pay” them off, or they want to “spread the wealth,” or they want to terrorize society with all of their racial rioting GARBAGE. They want to drag this society down to their level and will NEVER be happy unless everyone else around them is as miserable and downtrodden as they are.

Wish each and every one of them who are so unhapppy with this society would just go find ANOTHER society to live in ... how about their native Africa to start.

And for the record, this does NOT apply to any black who has learned to fit into this society, who works hard, serves the military, or any other adaptive way of living. to them, i tip my hat as they have really had to battle a lot and tame these idiotic ways of thinking that affect so many of their own race.


24 posted on 03/24/2012 11:19:45 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: DManA

Dead on, even though black people are a small minority nationwide the likelihood of a black person being killed by a white person (Zimmerman is not white, he is multiracial “Hispanic”) is far, far smaller than the chance of a white person being killed by a black person. Also, Geraldo is right about one thing, even though I hate to admit it, wearing a hoody in Florida in March is absurd, also walking around with your pants down all the way to your crotch and your undershorts showing, (not that Martin was, but I see it all too often and sometimes it is white clowns doing it) is utterly disrespectful to all around you, anyone doing so should expect only contempt, although of course it does not justify a violent attack. This whole rash of coverage of one killing picked from many that have happened during the same time period originates from one thing. It is an attempt to claim that a white man who happens to have a concealed carry permit has killed a black child (note that all the pictures of Martin are from years back, he is actually much larger and more mature than they are showing) in cold blood for absolutely no reason. About the only thing that is true is that Zimmerman IS a holder of a concealed carry permit.


25 posted on 03/24/2012 11:20:55 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: DManA

Do you know what time of night the incident occurred?


26 posted on 03/24/2012 11:20:55 AM PDT by ngat
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To: Rooivalk

Would you stand there and let someone run up on you and under the authority of just having a firearm treat you any old kind of way and not attempt to defend yourself?
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There is absolutely NO evidence of this. NONE...zero.

“Trayvon said, ‘What, are you following me for?’ and the man said, ‘What are you doing here?’ Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again and he didn’t answer the phone.”

Zimmerman had as much right to follow Trayvon as Trayvon had to walk wherever he wanted around the complex.

It is likely, though I have no proof, that after Trayvon questions Zimmerman, then Zimmerman questions back—Trayvon threw the first punch or shoved.

Zimmerman knew the police were on the way, it doesn’t make sense he would have shoved or hit Trayvon.

If Trayvon was frightened of Zimmerman following him, Trayvon could have called 911, he had a phone on him. He didn’t.


27 posted on 03/24/2012 11:21:12 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Rooivalk
Did Zimmerman attack Martin. Martin was only a 100 yards from his house a 15 sec sprint or less for a 17 yoa football player.

Why didn't Martin simple run to his house and call the cops.

A lot of people are saying Zimmerman did this and that. What did Martin do and what didn't he do.

28 posted on 03/24/2012 11:21:31 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: freebilly

The point is that it is NOT A BLACK CODE
It is life!
Its the transitionally awkward time when children attempt to be men.

We make bad decisions.
Zimmerman made bad decisions trying to prove he was a man too.


29 posted on 03/24/2012 11:22:38 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Rooivalk
Seems like you forget that this kid had every right to stand his ground when Zimmerman ran up on him and began the actions that resulted in a shooting and a death.

I think you need to read a few more articles about what "really happened" in the incident. It is a tragedy that the 17 year old is dead. FACT. The police report and the eye witnesses will testify in the trial if it ever gets that far. This will not be tried in the press, except in the minds of the MSM and the turkeys who are trying to promoted race hatred for political causes.

There is evidence that Zimmerman was on his back with Treyvon beating him before he pulled the gun and shot him. The 17 year old is not as pictured in the media, he was 6'2" tall and weighed 160 lbs. This will eventually be revealed, but the Dems, MSM and race pimps are playing this to the hilt.

30 posted on 03/24/2012 11:22:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Baynative
I thought my son would be much older before I had to tell him about the Black Male Code. He's only 12

I started telling my son about the "code on day one"

31 posted on 03/24/2012 11:24:45 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Rooivalk
Seems like you forget that this kid had every right to stand his ground when Zimmerman ran up on him and began the actions that resulted in a shooting and a death.

Can you point me toward your source for this version? Or are you making it up as you go along?

32 posted on 03/24/2012 11:25:57 AM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Baynative

The Minneapolis newspaper (Strib) ran this story but turned off the comments feature for it. I wonder why?


33 posted on 03/24/2012 11:26:22 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: LibsRJerks
Hey, don't sugar coat it ☺
34 posted on 03/24/2012 11:27:28 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I think the black code should be explained like this:

Don't assume white folks are prepared to fight you, they grew up without a chip on their shoulder.

Don't try to take possessions away from white folks. They have this notion that they deserve to hang on to it because they worked for it.

Don't be the first to punch a white guy. They believe in not hurting others because they wouldn't like it.

Why would I write this? Because I grew up in a mixed-race poor neighborhood. As a kid, I had black punks jump me and steal my stuff, like basketballs and bikes. I got jumped and beat up by black punks. Despite that, many of my friends were blacks, including my next-door neighbors and neighbors across the street. My best friend in high school was a black guy. But some black punks are raised plain bad. I got the snot kicked out of me back then, but as an adult it won't happen again without a fight. I also believe in the right to bear arms, and use them in the preservation of my family and self. So blacks should beware, if it's a nasty summer, non-blacks are not going to just take it anymore.

35 posted on 03/24/2012 11:28:47 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: ngat

5:30 to 7:30


36 posted on 03/24/2012 11:29:41 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Baynative

Well, I’ll say this. If Hollywood/media didn’t present black kids as ‘thug life’ being ‘cool’, (Thug life including ‘Da Hood’, bustin capZ drugs, crime, pimps hos, shooting cops, ectectectect) then 1: an insane number of black kids might not adopt that philosophythat it was cool and become a part of it and 2: White people wouldn’t be fed a steady diet of the Hollywood version in real life.

Lets face it, all humans learn by repitition. If we see this on TV movies, magazines, music et all, and go out our door to see the very same thing, is it such a shock that non black people are wary?

Here’s a new ‘Code for black fathers to teach their kids...and white ones too...

“Son, if you look and act like a thug, even if thats the ‘style’ and is considered by all your buds to be ‘cool’ don’t expect anyone with a brain to think you’re just playing dress-up.”

This is not rocket science and liberal ‘free to be me’ BS gets black kids, white kids and a whole lot of innocent people killed.


37 posted on 03/24/2012 11:30:45 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Baynative
It will take more than this to undo the Black Male Code preached by such as AmerICAN chief Jim Brown, (Yes #32) who said back in the late 60's that his goal was for Black men to be perceived on sight as "tough sons of bitches."

He was one small voice in the cacophony of separatism that depleted the conciliatory dream of MLK.

What you call a self-inflicted wound.

38 posted on 03/24/2012 11:30:45 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lady Lucky

Yea, for women it’s MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A HOODIE!


39 posted on 03/24/2012 11:30:45 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: Texas Fossil

“There is evidence that Zimmerman was on his back with Treyvon beating him before he pulled the gun and shot him. The 17 year old is not as pictured in the media, he was 6’2” tall and weighed 160 lbs.”
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Sounds like a real handful if he was a football player. At that age I was an inch taller and maybe five pounds heavier. I could swing an axe all day long and I could walk from sunup to sundown and not be tired.


40 posted on 03/24/2012 11:31:03 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Rooivalk
You might want to learn a few more fact before you assume...per witness and second 911 tape Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him...Zimmerman is heard on the tape yelling for help while getting beaten then you hear one shot....evidence now seem to show a fight for the gun..(the gun an auto did not rack a new round after firing cuts on martins hand as if he was holding the slide when the gun fired)....police reports show Zimmerman was hit about the face and grass stains on his back to support the witness statement that Zimmerman was on his back being beaten with Martin on top
41 posted on 03/24/2012 11:32:20 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Rooivalk
You might want to learn a few more fact before you assume...per witness and second 911 tape Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him...Zimmerman is heard on the tape yelling for help while getting beaten then you hear one shot....evidence now seem to show a fight for the gun..(the gun an auto did not rack a new round after firing cuts on martins hand as if he was holding the slide when the gun fired)....police reports show Zimmerman was hit about the face and grass stains on his back to support the witness statement that Zimmerman was on his back being beaten with Martin on top
42 posted on 03/24/2012 11:32:29 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Baynative; Travis McGee; mojitojoe; Elle Bee; GOPJ; tutstar; melancholy; bgill
"“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life,” Jesse Jackson, Senior once told an audience, “than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery — then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

""Jackson’s remark illustrates a basic fact of our social existence, one that even a committed black civil-rights leader cannot escape: ideas that we may not endorse — for example, that a black stranger might harm us but a white one probably would not — can nonetheless lodge themselves in our minds and, without our permission or awareness, color our perceptions, expectations and judgments.""

From Scientific American, quoted here:

http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/white_relief

43 posted on 03/24/2012 11:32:40 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Baynative
When someone confronts you, of if you confront, BE POLITE.
It works for all demographics.

44 posted on 03/24/2012 11:33:19 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Too bad he didn’t teach Treyvon not to punch people in the nose and beat them on the ground.

If you are following me around with bad intentions, especially if I'm trying to avoid you, you're lucky if a punch in the nose and a few hits on the ground is all you get.

If there's an issue, you can talk to me from your car or from a safe distance. If you're getting into contact space in an confrontation you start, I'm not waiting for you to throw the first punch. I'm knocking you out and then going home.

45 posted on 03/24/2012 11:33:19 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: mylife

Yes, it is.

I have been shopping with my son and watched him get the up and down look and a sneer from some black people.

My son who has no tats, no piercings and usually dresses in jeans a tee or a collared knit shirt with tennis shoes but he a slick bald head.

He started losing his hair by the time he was 16 and I agree with him, it looks better shaved. The fringe wrap around makes him look much older and the fringe is what is noticed before anything.

If this race stuff gets whipped up too much more— I will be begging him to go with the fringe look.


46 posted on 03/24/2012 11:33:37 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Baynative

At some point the Black Male Code ought to be amended to include: Grow the Hell Up, Get the Hell Out, and GET A JOB!


47 posted on 03/24/2012 11:35:48 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Rooivalk

I like your way if thinking. Now apply it to a man who did what 911 said and walked away but was an attacked from behind by this “innocent child”.
Did he have the same right to defend himself?


48 posted on 03/24/2012 11:36:16 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: HP8753
"The author can thank the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, 90% of Democrats and all the other race baiting Poverty Pimps in the so called "Civil Rights Movement."

I think there is a lot of truth to that. I remember the late 60s when I was in college. Even though there we some lingering emotions from the times of segregation, people seemed to be striving to know each other, or at least to tolerate if not appreciate.

I felt that we were right on the cups of becoming a color blind than, and looking back, I still do. But then something happened and it all went backwards at the hands of the race pimps. Sharpton, Jackson were big parts of it along with the likes of Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson-Lee and many others who fueled the flames of hatred in order to profit for themselves.

What they did to their own people and our nation as a whole is a disgrace. Instead of making things better Barack Obama has made things worse. He talks sweet, but I sense a bitterness in his heart.

49 posted on 03/24/2012 11:36:16 AM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Baynative

“An enlightening article [or editorial] about how responsible black males have tried to educate their sons a about the racial stereotypes we still must deal with.”

My, my—I wonder how those sterotypes “just happened”? How much street crime is commited by blacks as compared to whites? Rick Badie from the AJC devoted his column to this subject today too. I, however, want to know why there aren’t the similar “lynch mobs” in Oklahoma where a black punk beat an elderly couple and raped the wife.


50 posted on 03/24/2012 11:37:12 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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