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TENNESSEE: Blount County nurse gets no jail time for NYC gun charge
Knoxville News Sentinel ^ | 3/20/12 | News Sentinel staff

Posted on 03/20/2012 8:15:20 AM PDT by SmithL

A Blount County woman arrested on a gun possession charge while visiting New York City has pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge, according to the Associated Press.

Meredith Graves, a registered nurse from Louisville, was spared jail time under the plea deal.

She pleaded guilty Monday to criminal possession of a weapon, according to the AP.

Charged with felony gun possession, Graves posted a $2,000 bond and faced a minimum sentence of 3½ years in prison after reportedly requesting to check her loaded, .32-caliber handgun with police at the World Trade Center Memorial on Dec. 22.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: New York; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; concealedcarry; graves; guncontrol; meredithgraves; nyc; policestate; rapeofliberty; rightsinfringed; waronguns; waronliberty

Meredith Graves of Blount County leaves a Manhattan court yesterday after pleading guilty.

1 posted on 03/20/2012 8:15:35 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

what was she thinking? noone ‘forgets’ that they have a
handgun with them.

glad they cut her a break, but a nationwide right to carry law would do away with these islands of insanity.


2 posted on 03/20/2012 8:20:58 AM PDT by RitchieAprile (How about those Devils and Rangers? 3 fights no waiting!)
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To: SmithL
Will she now lose her rights to own and carry firearms because of Bloomberg’s new trophy indictment?
3 posted on 03/20/2012 8:21:20 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: SmithL

Why was she even charged? Yet another reason why any enema of the east coast should have the tip inserted in NYC.


4 posted on 03/20/2012 8:22:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SmithL

It looks like Gov Haslam’s threats of $10,000 fines and jail time for any infraction of TN law no matter how minor by any New Yorker caught in his state worked.


5 posted on 03/20/2012 8:23:32 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: SmithL
visiting New York City

Her first mistake

6 posted on 03/20/2012 8:25:19 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Truth29

She was allowed to plead to a misdemeanor and a $200 fine.


7 posted on 03/20/2012 8:27:21 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: from occupied ga

For her sake, I’m glad she walked on a misdemeanor and I don’t think it will have any effect on her rights or her carry permit here in TN. I do wonder, though, if this could set up an “equal protection” argument against NYC’s enforcement of their corrupt and repressive gun laws?


8 posted on 03/20/2012 8:28:22 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: from occupied ga

visiting New York City

Her first mistake

Yep, put New Jersey, Illinois, and Massachusetts on the list as well as a few more states.


9 posted on 03/20/2012 8:29:57 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: Emmett McCarthy
I’m glad she walked on a misdemeanor and I don’t think it will have any effect on her rights or her carry permit here in TN.

Hope it doesn't affect her, but Im not sure how the Biden gun control law will affect her now.

I do wonder, though, if this could set up an “equal protection” argument against NYC’s enforcement of their corrupt and repressive gun laws?

Need a lawyer to answer that one.

10 posted on 03/20/2012 8:32:21 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SmithL

She DEFINITELY looks “Not Guilty” to me!!


11 posted on 03/20/2012 8:32:34 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: DarthVader
Haslam’s threats of $10,000 fines and jail time

Would you please provide more information about this.

ML/NJ

12 posted on 03/20/2012 8:34:07 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Roklok
New Jersey, Illinois, and Massachusetts on the list as well as a few more states.

RI, MD, DE. I think it's a toss up as to which state has the most repressive gun laws, NY or MA. Both suck.

13 posted on 03/20/2012 8:35:37 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SmithL

If politicians pass enough laws every good citizen becomes a bad criminal. This woman never should have been charged.


14 posted on 03/20/2012 8:39:20 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: RatRipper

“She DEFINITELY looks “Not Guilty” to me!!”

Yeah, fancy that a thin nurse! Just in the local ER with a relative. 90% of the nurses waddled! Someone explain to me how you can be a “healthcare professional” and look like one of the Tons of Fun!


15 posted on 03/20/2012 8:43:10 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: ml/nj

They were not messing around with these liberals:

http://blogs.knoxnews.com/humphrey/2012/01/new-york-post-tn-gun-nuts-have.html


16 posted on 03/20/2012 8:43:52 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: RitchieAprile
noone ‘forgets’ that they have a handgun with them.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you don't have a concealed carry license.

I do.

So does my wife.

A person with a concealed carry becomes so comfortable that you do in fact forget it's there.

When you perceive danger you immediately remember you have a weapon and it's quite comforting. Otherwise the familiarity of the weight of the weapon is such an everyday thing you don't give it a second thought.

It is quite possible to forget you have a weapon, because you don't fear it or feel uncomfortable about being armed.

I have often walked into 'restricted' places armed, not even thinking about my weapon. There is a sudden realization 'Uh oh!' that I imagine this woman felt. The mistake is then trying to talk to someone about your 'Uh oh' moment.

Just roll with it (the weapon IS concealed!) or leave, but never tell on yourself.

17 posted on 03/20/2012 8:51:30 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: JOAT

You are out on a limb. I do have a CPW (WA).

I don’t forget for a minute that I have it with me,
and neither should anyone else.


18 posted on 03/20/2012 8:56:54 AM PDT by RitchieAprile (How about those Devils and Rangers? 3 fights no waiting!)
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To: RitchieAprile

Insanity is the problem. I read somewhere that about 75% of New York City dwellers are certifiable nut jobs.


19 posted on 03/20/2012 9:00:11 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: RitchieAprile
Hmmph.

Noob then?

Anyway, if you've carried a while you've performed an 'oops' and you know what I'm talking about.

Otherwise, you're simply too uptight to be carrying because your nervousness gives you away.

20 posted on 03/20/2012 9:01:53 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: from occupied ga
The gun laws in most of New York State are better than those in all of Massachusetts. It's NYC that is truly repressive. Massachusetts' firearms statutes are horrible (you can't even buy a shotgun without an FID card).

Oh, and...

"Section 131L. (a) It shall be unlawful to store or keep any firearm, rifle or shotgun including, but not limited to, large capacity weapons, or machine gun in any place unless such weapon is secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device, properly engaged so as to render such weapon inoperable by any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user. For purposes of this section, such weapon shall not be deemed stored or kept if carried by or under the control of the owner or other lawfully authorized user."

The fine for violations: $500- $10,000 and 1 to 10 years in prison.

I kid you not.

In my state, the gun laws fit on one page and there's not much that's prohibited (the way it ought to be).

21 posted on 03/20/2012 9:03:57 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: JOAT

you sure like to sling the aspersions today doncha?


22 posted on 03/20/2012 9:03:57 AM PDT by RitchieAprile (How about those Devils and Rangers? 3 fights no waiting!)
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To: RitchieAprile
"what was she thinking? noone ‘forgets’ that they have a handgun with them."

If you read the whole story, you will see she tried to be a good citizen by going over to a security guard and asking if she could check her gun in after seeing the no guns allowed sign. The security guard could have secured the weapon for her instead of treating her like a threat.

23 posted on 03/20/2012 9:04:54 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: RitchieAprile
Wow.

Thin-skinned folks are especially unsuited to carry.

Ha! Maybe you should be a good boy turn yourself in...

24 posted on 03/20/2012 9:07:41 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: RitchieAprile
How did she forget she had it with her if she asked to check it at the visitor's center.

It says it was with her in New York inadvertently which is not be default “forgetting”

25 posted on 03/20/2012 9:09:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
If you weight it by number of people affected, then NY is worse. The entire police state of MA has about 6.6 million people Massholes in it. The dictatorship of NYC has about 8.3 million.
26 posted on 03/20/2012 9:13:49 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
Fair point. And not only do New York's obscene, anti-Constitutional gun laws affect millions of law-abiding New Yorkers, but millions more who visit the city each year. New Jersey and Connecticut firearms laws are not much better, which means if you work in New York, you can't escape to the suburbs to practice your 2nd Amendment rights.

But if you're a career criminal or illegal immigrant... it's party time, baby!!

I lived there a couple years and couldn't wait to get out.

27 posted on 03/20/2012 9:26:54 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: from occupied ga
The entire police state of MA has about 6.6 million people Massholes in it...

No, you are wrong. Less than 6,599,999, and one a-h living outside of it. And actually MANY less than 6,599,999, as I know many decent folks... we're just outnumbered.

File in the idiocy of labeling everybody the same department.

28 posted on 03/20/2012 9:34:50 AM PDT by C210N
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To: from occupied ga

Does the misdemeanor gun conviction now bar her from gun ownership or use?

The statists have passed lots of gotcha laws .


29 posted on 03/20/2012 9:39:27 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: RatRipper
She DEFINITELY looks “Not Guilty” to me!!

"Oh, Nurse..."


30 posted on 03/20/2012 9:50:35 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Carterize Obama in November)
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To: SmithL

Tell DA:
FU...2A trumps your NYC nonsense.


31 posted on 03/20/2012 9:54:05 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: ErnBatavia

I’ve been around a long time. I’m divorced 11 years after being married 19. My record goes back to the 1970’s. I am STILL batting 1.000 with nurses!!!!! Just makes me smile!!


32 posted on 03/20/2012 10:11:57 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: C210N

I think your post proved my point.


33 posted on 03/20/2012 11:12:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: hoosierham
Does the misdemeanor gun conviction now bar her from gun ownership or use?

I don't know. I remember some controversy about it, but not the outcome.

34 posted on 03/20/2012 11:18:38 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: JOAT
A person with a concealed carry becomes so comfortable that you do in fact forget it's there.

Very true.

I've carried since the 70s and don't fell dressed without at least one gun.

There are multiple guns in my vehicle, and I sometimes forget that they are in the vehicle.

I've got to be careful when I travel to certain states so that I'll know whether or not I choose to break the law or it happens by accident.

35 posted on 03/20/2012 11:36:36 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
It shall be unlawful to store or keep any firearm, rifle or shotgun including, but not limited to, large capacity weapons, or machine gun in any place unless such weapon is secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device, properly engaged so as to render such weapon inoperable by any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user.

So my S & W 357 magnum, loaded, and sitting beside my speed loader, in my bed stand drawer, and my 12 gauge shotgun, loaded with 00 Buckshot, would be unlawful?

36 posted on 03/20/2012 11:43:46 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: USS Alaska
So my S & W 357 magnum, loaded, and sitting beside my speed loader, in my bed stand drawer, and my 12 gauge shotgun, loaded with 00 Buckshot, would be unlawful?

Yes. As would my two loaded pistols in the quick-access draw safe next to my bed and the shotgun behind the closet door. Which is one of many reasons not to live in Massachusetts. They don't want anyone but cops and criminals capable of self-defense.

37 posted on 03/20/2012 1:26:24 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: SmithL

Good deal.

Thanks for the update.

Took bad she felt she had to plea guilty to such a cr@p charge.


38 posted on 03/20/2012 5:37:34 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Oberon

She was allowed to plead to a misdemeanor and a $200 fine

Some heavy irony with this fine and plea.


39 posted on 03/21/2012 2:45:28 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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