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Postman: Ayers family put 'foreigner' Obama through school
WND ^ | 3-19-12 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 03/19/2012 9:04:16 PM PDT by STARWISE


Allen Hulton

*snip*

A retired U.S. Postal Service carrier who delivered mail to Tom and Mary Ayers in a Chicago suburb in the late 1980s and early 1990s and claims to have met Obama in front of the Ayers home emphatically says yes to all three questions.

Allen Hulton, who was commended for 39 years of honorable service with the USPS, has given a sworn affidavit to investigators commissioned by Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio to determine whether Obama is eligible for Arizona’s 2012 election ballot. Hulton has recorded about three hours of video interviews with WND.

Hulton says that in conversations with Mary Ayers while on his route he learned of the couple’s enthusiasm and support for a black foreign student. One bright, warm Chicagoland day, he recounts, he met the student who fit Mary Ayers’ description in front of the Ayers home in Glen Ellyn, Ill. That young man, Hulton is convinced, was Barack Obama.


(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: ayers; birthcertificate; corruption; democrats; foreignstudent; fraud; guyfromneighborhood; illinois; naturalborncitizen; nobama2012; obama; obamatruthfile; postman
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Stick with it, Sheriff Joe ..God bless and protect you, your family and team.
1 posted on 03/19/2012 9:04:24 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Liz; rodguy911; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; ...

The postman always rings twice ...


2 posted on 03/19/2012 9:06:29 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Wonder if he was “Soetero” at that time?


3 posted on 03/19/2012 9:14:12 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Free Republic morphs into a supportive site for Romney, I'll conclude my 13 year participation.)
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To: STARWISE
“just a guy who lives in my neighborhood”

Well, it would be nice to see this quote come back and bite Obama in the a$$. It's too bad the MSM will never ask this question again.

4 posted on 03/19/2012 9:16:42 PM PDT by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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To: STARWISE

” - - - a black foreign student. One bright, warm Chicagoland day, he recounts, he met the student who fit Mary Ayers’ description in front of the Ayers home in Glen Ellyn, Ill. That young man, Hulton is convinced, was Barack Obama.”

What do the PASSPORT documents show??????????????????????????????????????????????

BTW, what we have here is a failure to investigate this foreign student, White House Occupier.


5 posted on 03/19/2012 9:18:21 PM PDT by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: STARWISE

I can’t tell you how much I want this to be true. It would explain so much that was left uninvestigated by the media in 2008.


6 posted on 03/19/2012 9:26:38 PM PDT by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: STARWISE
Dr. Corsi is a regular guest on the most listened-to night time show in America CoastToCoastAM. Mostly he's there to talk about Iran.

Too bad Dr. Corsi is not permitted to say anything critical of Obama.

The host George Noory would not let Corsi plug his book Obamanation unless there was someone there to refute everything Corsi said.

Noory and guests have called Bush everything in the book except president for going on 12 years but there's been just one show critical of Obama (he signed the NDAA) in four years.

From time-to-time Corsi does sneak in a critical remark about Obama but the discussions thus far have not been permitted to be about Obama.

That show claims to be "nonpartisan" and influences a lot of apolitical voters.

7 posted on 03/19/2012 9:27:11 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: STARWISE

I believe that this is the winning angle. Show one college application where he states he is a foreigner. People can forgive a lot. But they will not forgive lying to get money and screw some American out of his education.

The birther thing would not get traction, because an infant could not be held accountable for the actions of his parents. BUT, an adult living out a lie in such a deliberate manner is not going to fly.


8 posted on 03/19/2012 9:33:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: LucyT

ping to Corsi interviewing the Ayers’ postman on tape saying Barry was a “foreign student”


9 posted on 03/19/2012 9:35:29 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: STARWISE

All I can say is this would explain a lot.


10 posted on 03/19/2012 9:35:51 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; Danae; butterdezillion; mojitojoe; All; Beckwith

Scroll down the article link above and here

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/postman-ayers-family-put-foreigner-obama-through-school/

Corsi has a video segment of his interview with Hulton.


11 posted on 03/19/2012 9:40:42 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
C2C was the first National syndicated show, prior to the 2008 election to even host the possibility of Obama being a citizen.

Attack C2C all ya want, but Rush or Hannity wasn't doing crap about the citizenship issue until after the dam election.

Berg vs. Obama Lawsuit

12 posted on 03/19/2012 9:41:06 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Vermont Lt

I don’t think Obama’s parents were responsible for him standing in front of a crowd of reporters at a White House press conference and claiming that a forged birth certificate was his genuine birth certificate.

I also don’t think his parents were responsible for Obama sending a decorated military surgeon off to prison for 6 months rather than present a birth certificate to ease that officer’s conscience given his oath to defend the US Constitution - a birth certificate with nothing embarrassing on it, which he later presented publicly simply to assuage the idle curiosity of Donald Trump. Apparently a soldier’s conscience is piddles compared to a millionaire’s idle curiosity...

There are so many levels on which Obama has shown his criminality and his creepiness, on both the birth certificate and the foreign student side of things.


13 posted on 03/19/2012 9:43:54 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: STARWISE
Allen Hulton is a typical white postal worker...

/MSM spin mode

14 posted on 03/19/2012 9:45:26 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; Danae; butterdezillion; mojitojoe; All; Beckwith

March 19, 2012
What the Mailman Knows about Ayers and Obam
American Thinker - Jack Cashill

Excerpt:

A few days ago I got a call asking whether I knew anything about the Ayers family mailman. I had heard of him, I said. I remembered liberal blogger Steven Diamond having interviewed the fellow a few years back, but I paid it little mind, as the information seemed too limited to pursue.

The caller then sent me a video interview with the mailman by WND sleuth Jerome Corsi. The video made me sit up and pay attention. The mailman is a real person. His name is Alan Hulton. He seems entirely credible, and he has a story to tell.

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As Hulton tells Corsi — and he has sworn an affidavit to the same — he met Tom Ayers not long after the Ayerses moved to the neighborhood. Until he retired in 1980 at the age of 65, Tom Ayers was the CEO and chairman of Commonwealth Edison.

Tom, however, was not your garden-variety plutocrat. According to Diamond, who knows his way around Chicago politics, Tom was a “lifelong liberal” — one deeply involved in the same educational reform movement that engaged son Bill and, briefly, Barack Obama in 1988. Tom Ayers was comfortable enough with Bill’s lifestyle to live with him in Hyde Park until Tom died in 2007.

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Hulton told Diamond and Corsi essentially the same story. What gives the Corsi interview added value is that we see Hulton tell it. Although just a year older than Bill Ayers, he seems to come from a different generation. He has little to gain — and a lot to risk — by going public. Corsi warns Hulton that by quoting Mary’s comment that Obama was a “foreign student,” he has put himself at some risk. Says Hulton, “I am only telling you what I distinctly remember her saying — that he was a foreign student.”

Hulton’s interviews with Diamond and Corsi are consistent in every major detail save for dates. Hulton suggested to Diamond that the sidewalk meeting took place in the mid-’80s, but Corsi suggests to Hulton that it was in the early 1990s, and Hulton does not correct him. Hulton clearly does not remember the date. If I were to speculate, I would guess 1988, the year Obama started Harvard Law School. Presuming Hulton actually met Obama, the “education” in question would almost surely have been law school.

There is a good deal at stake here. According to Snopes and the other fact-check sites, Bill Ayers and Obama did not meet until the mid-1990s. This is a talking point that both Ayers and Obama have upheld.

When Ayers appeared on ABC’s Good Morning America in 2008, he put the date of their first meeting in 1995 at a fundraiser in Ayers’s own home. “I think he was probably in 20 homes that day as far as I know,” said Ayers. “But that was the first time I really met him.”

As it happens, I stumbled into my own discovery of Ayers’s involvement in the writing of Obama’s 1995 memoir, Dreams from My Father, when I was investigating how Obama got into Harvard Law School and who paid his way.

What had piqued my interest was an interview with veteran New York power-broker Percy Sutton on a local New York City show called Inside City Hall. The interview took place in late March 2008 but did not surface until August 2008.

Rest
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/m-what_the_mailman_knows_about_ayers_and_obama.html


15 posted on 03/19/2012 9:45:39 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Balata
“just a guy who lives in my neighborhood”

He also lied and said Ayers was an English teacher.

From Investor's Business Daily (IBD), August 27, 2008:

"Ayers, now a tenured distinguished professor of education at UIC, works to educate teachers in socialist revolutionary ideology, urging that it be passed on to impressionable students.

One of Ayer's descriptions for a course called 'Improving Learning Environments' says prospective K-12 teachers need to 'be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and ... be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, teaching for social justice and liberation.

The Annenberg papers are quite extensive — 132 boxes containing 947 file folders with 70 linear feet of material. They undoubtedly contain more surprises regarding Obama's relationship with Ayers, one of many relationships Obama has sought to hide.'..."

Article: Annenberg Papers: Putting On Ayers?
http://www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=304729375940845
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Photobucket

REVOLUTION: Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]
[Revolution] Interview with Bill Ayers, Revolution #63, October 1, 2006:
"On Progressive Education, Critical Thinking and the Cowardice of Some in Dangerous Times"
http://rwor.org/a/063/ayers-en.html
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The RCP calls for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government...

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :

"Create Public Opinion, Seize Power: We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning.

And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.":

http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm
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"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."
--B.H. Obama

YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
(note the red communist star on his shirt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY

16 posted on 03/19/2012 9:51:13 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Graewoulf
” - - - a black foreign student. One bright, warm Chicagoland day, he recounts, he met the student who fit Mary Ayers’ description in front of the Ayers home in Glen Ellyn, Ill. That young man, Hulton is convinced, was Barack Obama.”

*******

I wish a reporter or tv talk host would pressure President Obama into answering this question: When was the first time you met Ayers' parents or visited their home in Chicago, because a Chicago mailman claims that he accidentally met you in front of Ayers' parents home one day when he was delivering mail to the parents' home?

Why do reporters seem too scared to ask President Obama questions about his past, such as questions about his relationship with the Ayers family, his Connecticut Social Security number, and his questionable Selective Service application form that he supposedly signed in 1980?

17 posted on 03/19/2012 9:52:32 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: STARWISE
A retired U.S. Postal Service carrier who delivered mail to Tom and Mary Ayers.

Tom Ayers?

This guy?

Tom Ayers Picture

18 posted on 03/19/2012 9:52:44 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: STARWISE

On Drudge right now.


19 posted on 03/19/2012 9:53:42 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Seizethecarp; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; ...
Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Check out article, and comments # 1 through 17.

Thanks, Seizethecarp.

20 posted on 03/19/2012 9:55:14 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Smokeyblue

Yes ... maybe Matt’s getting more focused.


21 posted on 03/19/2012 10:00:24 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

If true this answers in part a question thats been asked a number of times: who paid for O’s education.


22 posted on 03/19/2012 10:04:52 PM PDT by marron
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To: Smokeyblue; mojitojoe; butterdezillion; All

Also now on Drudge .. the ole Chicago Way iron fist.

Chicago Cop Arrests NBC Reporters: ‘Your First Amendment Right Can Be Terminated’...

http://drudgereport.com

Linked story

Police Handcuff NBC Chicago Photojournalist
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Chicago-Police-Take-NBC-Chicago-Photojournalist-Into-Custody-Warn-1st-Amendment-Rights-Can-Be-Terminated-143105086.html


23 posted on 03/19/2012 10:04:59 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE
Obama lies about where he met his wife. Why?
24 posted on 03/19/2012 10:06:56 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: STARWISE

Posted on September 25, 2009 by Stephen Diamond

Barack Obama’s Visit to the Other Ayers House

http://02ce1ab.netsolhost.com/KingHarvest/?p=1245


25 posted on 03/19/2012 10:10:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: ETL
He also lied and said Ayers was an English teacher.

His whole life is a lie. There is no way he could go back and answer these type of question without the dam bursting. Well...maybe he could if he were just reading a teleprompter.

26 posted on 03/19/2012 10:11:35 PM PDT by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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To: STARWISE

Very interesting read. It says the postman went to school in the same class as Tim Ayers, Bill Ayers’ brother.


27 posted on 03/19/2012 10:14:31 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: STARWISE

This is second hand testimony and lacks credibility.

The postman is reporting what he remembers Mrs Ayers saying, so is it not directly knowledge. It is second hand.

Interesting, but you would need more this testimony to prove Obama is that foreign student.

It would be like saying: “Yeah, my neighbor once told me at the mail box that she and her husband saw bigfoot.”


28 posted on 03/19/2012 10:15:56 PM PDT by garjog
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To: STARWISE
Drool on, Dude.
29 posted on 03/19/2012 10:17:08 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks, Fred.

Thomas Ayers Memorial page - Northwestern University

http://www.northwestern.edu/magazine/fall2007/classnotes/inmemoriam.html

Note the phrase we’ve come to know so well and despise: “social equality” - i.e, social justice. Twisted, socialist manipulators and architects of doom, I have now learned, have always been with us. And they all need to be vanquished to utter removal from positions of authority and powerlessness.


30 posted on 03/19/2012 10:21:39 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Check out all the people associated with the Chicago law firm of Sidley & Austin.

http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+Chicago+law+firm+of+Sidley+%26+Austin&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&client=firefox-a&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=46538l49698l0l50234l10l10l0l8l0l0l132l222l1.1l2l0&oq=obama+Chicago+law+firm+of+Sidley+%26+Austin&aq=f&aqi=&aql=

Sidley & Austin represents Commonwealth Edison.

BO worked there, as well as Bernadine Dohrn and Michelle.


31 posted on 03/19/2012 10:26:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Glenn

Meaning?


32 posted on 03/19/2012 10:27:15 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Balata
If Obama were adopted by his Indonesian stepfather, he may have compromised his eligibility to be president, according to Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, which requires that a president be a “natural-born citizen,” which experts say means having both parents be U.S. citizens.

More breath-taking "Hardy Boys" prose from the good Dr. Corsi, who not only mixes a mean metaphor, but apples oranges, and bananas.

(1)If one is indeed a Natural Born Citizen, adoption cannot remove that status, period.
Indeed, adoption cannot remove any kind of American citizenship, because it can always be reclaimed at majority.
(2)If one's biologic parents were not both citizens, one is not a Natural Born Citizen.

WND. What do we do with these guys? OK, they keep it alive, but they also needlessly sow confusion. Keep it simple, Dr. Jerry. Get off the Birth Certificate. Lean on the parentage. It is after all, quite possible that The Magic Marxist Mulatto was born in Hawaii. He can't prove that he was. We can't prove that he wasn't. OTOH, He admits that his father was a foreigner and has been careful to never personally claim that he is a "Natural Born Citizen."

33 posted on 03/19/2012 10:28:37 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: STARWISE

Good Lord what a nightmare. These monsters from the 60’s, Ayers and Dohrn. How in hell could this have happened?


34 posted on 03/19/2012 10:28:47 PM PDT by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: Theoria
Rush or Hannity weren't doing crap about the citizenship issue

Still won't, never will. Not even a mention of the Arpaio Report. Not a word about Article II.

35 posted on 03/19/2012 10:30:56 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Vermont Lt

Why do you think if 0bastard applied as a foreign student that he was “lying”?


36 posted on 03/19/2012 10:33:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: All

Let’s not forget there’s a strong probability Bill Ayers wrote or co-wrote Dreams From My Father.

FictionFixer analysis: Dreams From My Father vs. Fugitive Days (PDF file)

http://www.wnd.com/files/FictionFixer-Obama-Ayers-3.pdf


37 posted on 03/19/2012 10:34:26 PM PDT by zipper (espions sur les occupants)
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To: smokingfrog

Oh yes ... that dirty web is old, multi-layered, deep and very bound to their evil mission.


38 posted on 03/19/2012 10:38:48 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE
Meaning?

You're birthing a WND article. That's not even a cut above Debka. So wrong.

39 posted on 03/19/2012 10:42:18 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Glenn

Easy solution for ya: bypass it.


40 posted on 03/19/2012 10:46:33 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE
The postman always rings twice ...

This postman rang back in 2009, at which time he remembered encountering Radar Ears visiting Chez Ayers. See Barack Obama's Visit to the Other Ayers House:

“They tipped me generously at Christmastime,” Hulton recalled.

One day Hulton found himself on the sidewalk outside the Ayers home at 199 N. Montclair Avenue near the corner of Revere Road just after he had delivered the mail. The house was “very nice and attractive and more expensive than some in Glen Ellyn because it was closer to downtown, but it did not stand out among the houses on that block.” He said the largest and most expensive homes were actually on Revere, around the corner from the Ayers’ home.

As Hulton was on the sidewalk walking away from the Ayers house a tall and thin young black man was coming up the same sidewalk towards the Ayers house.

Hulton recalls that Obama said hello and introduced himself and stopped to chat with him in front of the Ayers house. “I recall that his ears stuck out a little bit. He was more gaunt then than he appears now. His name was an unusual one and when I saw his photo during the campaign it brought back my memory of the event,” Hulton said.

Mr. Obama explained that he had taken the train out from Chicago to visit the Ayers’ in order to thank them for their help with his “education.” At this time, Mr. Obama had recently graduated from Columbia and would soon enter Harvard Law School. Hulton and Obama “spoke for a few minutes, first chatting about the Ayers family,” Hulton said. Hulton said he did not learn whether the help Obama received from the Ayers’ was financial or in some other form.

Hulton agreed that it was an exceptional event to encounter a black man on his route and that Obama may have felt it prudent to introduce himself to the letter carrier before approaching the Ayers house. Hulton usually delivered mail on Montclair at mid-day, “sometimes as early as 11:30 in the morning or as late as 12:30 or 1:00 PM.”

Hulton went on recall the high ambitions of the thin young black man:

Mr. Hulton recalls that he probably asked what Mr. Obama was studying in school and at one point Mr. Obama said that he intended to become President of the United States. Mr. Hulton said he was “taken aback” by the statement but recalls that he did not think Mr. Obama was “arrogant, but just self assured and a person with a lot of self confidence.” “It was not said with hubris,” Hulton recalled, “but with an air of self-assuredness.”

“I told him there was no reason why he couldn’t become president,” Hulton recalled. Obama was dressed “nicely but casually, a slacks and shirt, not jeans and a t-shirt, but definitely not a coat or tie,” he said. After the brief conversation Hulton continued on his route and did not turn back to see whether the Ayers’ were at home or whether Obama entered their house.


41 posted on 03/19/2012 10:48:43 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: STARWISE
OBAMA, AYRES AND DOHRN, THE EARLY YEARS

And Thomas Ayres gets a Memorial Page! Figures. Where was it I read that William Ayres said - one day will have the Presidency? That was their goal all along...so don't blame foreign interests, these traitors were purely the home-grown variety, and they still flourish.

42 posted on 03/19/2012 10:50:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LucyT
Ayers Home 199 N Montclair Ave Glen Ellyn, IL 60137
43 posted on 03/19/2012 10:55:31 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Glenn
So wrong.

What specific item(s) in the article are wrong?
44 posted on 03/19/2012 11:00:45 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks; STARWISE; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

45 posted on 03/19/2012 11:05:24 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Glenn

You’ve been a freeper since 1998 and you make a statement like that without anything to back it up? I’m surprised at you...did you watch the video in which Hulton speaks to Corsi?


46 posted on 03/19/2012 11:06:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Glenn
Postman: Ayers family put 'foreigner' Obama through school
47 posted on 03/19/2012 11:14:06 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Fred Nerks

My gut feeling has always been that they were connected in NYC.


48 posted on 03/19/2012 11:14:10 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: PhilDragoo

CHANGE ALL MY BIRTH STUFF...LOL! you sure have a way with words.


49 posted on 03/19/2012 11:16:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Brown Deer
According to the Chicago Block Shopper, it last sold for $378K in 1994, when the instant culprits moved. Its taxes, as of 2009 come to $14,681.70. Yowza! Glad I departed that worthless state many decades ago (after having my long form signed by no less a crook than Richard J Daley).

Zillow zestimates its current value at $609K. Coulda done better in the market, and with no real estate hassles (just a few internet clicks)!

50 posted on 03/19/2012 11:17:42 PM PDT by cynwoody
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