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Did St. Patrick sell slaves to the Irish?
MSNBC ^ | 3/16/2012 | MSNBC Staff

Posted on 03/17/2012 3:03:31 PM PDT by caldera599

LONDON -- St. Patrick, patron saint of Ireland, may well have been a tax collector for the Romans who fled to Ireland where he could have traded slaves to pay his way, according to new research by a University of Cambridge academic published on Saturday.

The generally accepted account of the saint's life, albeit based on scant evidence, says Patrick was abducted from western Britain as a teenager and forced into slavery in Ireland for six years during which time he developed a strong Christian faith.

Afterwards, the account continues, he escaped his captors and went back to Britain before eventually returning to Ireland as a missionary.

But Roy Flechner, from the Department of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic at Cambridge, believes there are reasonable grounds to question the popular version which is based partly on Patrick's own words.

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MSNBC, denigrating Christianity and Catholicism in particular since as long as anyone can remember.
1 posted on 03/17/2012 3:03:43 PM PDT by caldera599
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MSNBC, denigrating Christianity and Catholicism in particular since as long as anyone can remember.

My thoughts just reading the headline.
2 posted on 03/17/2012 3:06:52 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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Another dead white slave owner. Doesn’t the left ever tire of their mantra. I’m sorry I wasted time reading this crap. It’s only purpose is to degrade the Irish and Christianity.


3 posted on 03/17/2012 3:12:32 PM PDT by JimSEA
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I thought St.Patrick drove the slaves out of Ireland.


4 posted on 03/17/2012 3:13:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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may well have been a tax collector for the Romans who fled to Ireland where he could have traded slaves...

He may have been a Visigoth transvestite spy who could have put on a lavender toga and danced the maranga in high heels while juggling flaming weasels. Did he ever deny it?

I thought not.

5 posted on 03/17/2012 3:13:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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More revisionist BS to undermine our culture & traditions; this is the kind of BS I would have expected from the History Channel nowadays (sandwiched between “documentaries” on the many wives of Jesus and His mother’s black slaves she mistreated).

We’ll be bombarded with the most bizarre nonsense, but not much on St. Patrick or the Irish on TV today.


6 posted on 03/17/2012 3:15:06 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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"Snakes. Why does it always have to be snakes?" -- Indiana Jones.

Legend says St. Pat drove the snakes out of Ireland. I wish someone would drive the snakes out of DC.

7 posted on 03/17/2012 3:18:40 PM PDT by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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St. Patrick On March 17, 2012, in Catholic Saint of the Day, by uCatholic
8 posted on 03/17/2012 3:21:11 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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"Snakes" (the serpent, i.e. Satan). But you're probably being sarcastic.

Considering Patrick's own youth as a captive and slave of Irish pagans this idea is ludicrous and highly offensive. And broaching it today indicates some people don't value their teeth or their knee caps much.

9 posted on 03/17/2012 3:27:01 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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I wish someone would drive the snakes out of DC.

I wish someone would drive the snakes out of Hillery
Clinton’s hair, I’m tired of looking at them.


10 posted on 03/17/2012 3:32:03 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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So Saint Patrick was a liar when he told of his life in Ireland and we know this because it was possible that he might have fled Britain for personal gain and it was possible that he might have take slaves with him. And this is called scholarship?
11 posted on 03/17/2012 3:35:43 PM PDT by Petrosius
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Bingo.

It’s same with dead Republican politicians. Liberals rewrite history. The Republicans party has moved so far to the right that Reagan would be an Obama guy. Lincoln would be a D. Goldwater would be a flaming lib. Etc. It’s so predictable.


12 posted on 03/17/2012 3:40:44 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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...who fled to Ireland where he could have traded slaves to pay his way…..believes there are reasonable grounds to question the popular version which is based partly on Patrick's own words.

Show me the receipts…!

13 posted on 03/17/2012 3:41:51 PM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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Someone was working hard to find something controversial to say about St. Patrick. This is beneath the level of Ancient Aliens-style speculation.


14 posted on 03/17/2012 3:57:51 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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St Patrick was a Brit who claimed he was dragged over to Ireland by Irish pirates. If this wasn’t true, it might reflect better on the Irish, if anything...


15 posted on 03/17/2012 4:10:49 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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St. Pat was a Roman, not a Brit.


16 posted on 03/17/2012 4:14:09 PM PDT by Mach9
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Hmmmm...NO primary or secondary sources? Must be purely attempting to question/revise history to support some agenda...


17 posted on 03/17/2012 4:21:27 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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You could call him a Roman I suppose, in the same sense that a pre-1922 Irishman was a Briton. But he was born and bred in what is now Cumbria, England...


18 posted on 03/17/2012 4:26:57 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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Cambridge prof says “there are reasonable grounds” - means no hard evidence. Just liberals trashing St. Patrick.


19 posted on 03/17/2012 4:45:19 PM PDT by sarah palin rocks
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I am surprised they are not claiming he was gay.


20 posted on 03/17/2012 4:47:23 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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