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‘Gay blood’ ban fading
nypost.com ^ | March 17, 2012 | S.A. MILLER

Posted on 03/16/2012 10:27:44 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is inching closer to lifting the ban on gay men donating blood.

The Department of Health and Human Services said it plans to study alternatives to the 1983 ban on blood and plasma donations by men who have sex with other men.

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1 posted on 03/16/2012 10:27:45 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What could possibly go wrong?!


2 posted on 03/16/2012 10:30:33 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

And so AIDS will become as common as allergies.

This is what gays want: to impose their poison on EVERYONE.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 10:33:19 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why lift the ban?

I donate blood regularly. And there is a questionnaire you fill out each time you go to donate.

Among the disqualifying factors are, men having sex with men, men having sex with female prostitutes, females having been prostitutes, having spent time in the British Isles during certain years (due to being exposed to mad cow disease), using IV drugs, having gotten tattoos within the past year, and a few others.

The point is, homosexual men are not singled out by the current policy. There are a whole host of disqualifiers for donating blood. Homosexual male sex is a risk factor for spreading disease.

Nobody is saying that they can’t live their lives and do whatever they want to do. We’re saying that such people should not donate blood. How is this “homophobic” or “bigoted”? Trying to stay a step ahead of the liberals on this one, as I’m sure they will frame opposition to lifting the ban as homophobic.


4 posted on 03/16/2012 10:33:43 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Slings and Arrows

oh, maybe this
http://www.sdadefend.com/Health/HIV%20blood.htm


5 posted on 03/16/2012 10:34:31 PM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am not getting this (unless you count political correctness) 90% of people who have aids are homosexual men, why are “they” letting them donate blood.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 10:35:22 PM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: silverleaf

Gee, ya think?


7 posted on 03/16/2012 10:38:26 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My blood boils EVERY SINGLE TIME I hear this...

I lost two good friends in the late 80’s-early 90’s to the The Great Hemopheliac Genocide that is politically-incorrect to talk about, because it was caused by gay-tainted blood.

200,000 Americans DIED, and it’s like they never existed, because you can’t say ANYTHING that might be offensive to gays, or their chosen promiscuous lifestyle.


8 posted on 03/16/2012 10:38:43 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Slings and Arrows
“The Department of Health and Human Services said it plans to study alternatives to the 1983 ban on blood and plasma donations by men who have sex with other men.”

“A notice about the study in the Federal Register this week explained that improved screening for HIV, Hepatitis B and Syphilis could still keep the blood supply safe.”

So they let them donate blood so they will FEEL better
and not FEEL discriminated against but will the blood be thrown out if it has HIV or will they give this tainted blood to the people on the death panels?

I am getting fed up with Obama and his admin he is an evil
son of a gun.

9 posted on 03/16/2012 10:42:14 PM PDT by funfan
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To: DNA.2012
"This is what gays want: to impose their poison on EVERYONE."

That is the invisible elephant no one wants to acknowledge: why are homos so adamant and eager about giving blood? Is there such a desperate shortage that only diseased homos can fill the gap??

This stinks, and someone without a liberal aganeda should expose what is going on here.

10 posted on 03/16/2012 10:43:40 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I lived in Britain from 1980 to 1986.

Over the years, I have donated many gallons of blood both in the U.S. and abroad. In the late 1990's I was banned from giving in the U.S. because I might be carrying Mad Cow Disease. I have even been stopped from donating during times of a severe blood shortage directly to a friend suffering from leukemia who had less than three months to live - when a transfusion would have given him another six to eight weeks according to his doctors.

Meanwhile, approximately 30 years later, my only symptom of lunacy is an almost pathological delight in irritating the hell out of liberals.

In a few weeks, I will still be banned whereas flaming homosexuals will be permitted to donate.

Go figure.

11 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:37 PM PDT by Zakeet (Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
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To: tcrlaf

HEY!!!!!
Don’t piss off the gay pResident!!!!


12 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:55 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Well, I do understand that medical understanding of how HIV works and the ability to test for it in blood has come a long, long way since 1983.

That said, I think it is still a very bad idea to lift the ban. According to the 2010 CDC numbers, gay males have an HIV infection rate 44 times higher than straight males or women, and are infected with syphilis 46 times as often. Blood testing has gotten much more effective than it used to be, but it isn't foolproof. Accepting blood donations from such a high risk group just seems ethically and medically unsound.

Of course, medically sound thinking isn't what's driving Obama's thinking here. This is election year politics to make his base happy. It's also probably a calculated move to put Republicans on the defensive (i.e. playing the "homophobe" card).

13 posted on 03/16/2012 10:45:19 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

May he receive the first transfusion.


14 posted on 03/16/2012 10:46:01 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Free ThinkerNY

May he receive the first transfusion.


15 posted on 03/16/2012 10:46:10 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: tcrlaf

There was a guy on my dorm floor who was HIV positive for that very reason. He was a hemophiliac who was infected by a tainted blood donation. This was early 1990s, so I don’t know how he’s doing, or if he’s even still alive. I remember the fear he had, though, that one day he would develop full-blown AIDS. He was a good kid, who sure deserved a lot better than he got.


16 posted on 03/16/2012 10:52:39 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Axe fermer prez BIlly Jeff. He sold a boat load to the Canadians.


17 posted on 03/16/2012 10:55:33 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Mohammedan law every woman must belong to a man will delay the end of slavery until Islam has ceased)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Perhaps this is another way Barry can “cull” the population he despises. Abortion just isn’t fast enough for him, I guess.

But, remember; This is psychological warfare against conservatives. Barry’s minions come up with offal every 30 minutes to piss us off. He’s PRAYING to allah for a conservative to break and do something violent.

Let’s disappoint the fag. It’ll piss him off.


18 posted on 03/16/2012 10:55:48 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: funfan
“A notice about the study in the Federal Register this week explained that improved screening for HIV, Hepatitis B and Syphilis could still keep the blood supply safe.”

So they let them donate blood so they will FEEL better and not FEEL discriminated against

I'm sure that will be of great comfort to regrettable-but-necessary recipients of false-negatively tested products.

19 posted on 03/16/2012 10:55:59 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: DemforBush

Well, we as conservatives have to fight back against the narrative that opposing lifting this ban is homophobic.

The left dictates terms of debate. They do this on so many issues.

If you oppose homosexual marriage, you are bigoted and homophobic.

If you oppose abortion on demand, you want women impaled on coat hangars.

If you oppose illegal immigration, you want, to paraphrase our president “a moat with alligators” at the border, because you are bigoted and xenophobic.

If you oppose affirmative action, you are racist.

If you oppose the whole Al Gore global warming story, you want pollution in the air and water.

If you oppose Obamacare, you want to see people suffer from lack of healthcare. You actually are in favor of people being stripped of health insurance, and then suffering and dying.

And so on. Any opposition to any liberal cause is because you are racist, sexist, bigoted, clinging to a gun or religion, not because of principled opposition to a point of view.


20 posted on 03/16/2012 10:56:10 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Slings and Arrows
what could possibly go wrong?!

Here is the test. Let gays donate their blood with the proviso that it can only be given to homosexuals and lesbians and that blood donated by heterosexuals can only be given to heterosexuals. It's consistent with their notion of marriage equality. Heteros can be married. Homos can be married. Two distinct cultures claiming the same status.

My guess lesbians and uninfected homos will cry discrimination that they can't receive hetero blood.

21 posted on 03/16/2012 11:01:52 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yep, you nailed it.


22 posted on 03/16/2012 11:02:38 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Once again, liberalism will kill you before it will suffer some discomfort.

It is why they won’t profile at airports, allow soldiers to dip bullets in pig blood or allow soldiers to defend themselves.

Your death is insignificant compared to their comfy self-important worldview.


23 posted on 03/16/2012 11:08:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: tcrlaf

>>My blood boils EVERY SINGLE TIME I hear this...<<

Don’t let that happen. Look at the article. infecting you with HIV/AIDS is perfectly OK to this administration.


24 posted on 03/16/2012 11:10:40 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
My daughter donates blood a lot and she has a friend who is gay and unable to donate. She was telling me how upset he was because he was unable to donate and I tried to explain it to her but she went on and on how unfair he felt it was
and I told her he needed to get a grip. I really do not get why he was so upset unless he felt bad about himself and excluded somehow I have no idea and I found it odd.
25 posted on 03/16/2012 11:10:48 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’m one of those banned from donating blood, due to my time in the military in the UK 20 some years ago. There is no ‘civil right’ to donate blood, but the homo lobby isn’t concerned with reason. All they want is for everyone to bow down to them...


26 posted on 03/16/2012 11:13:46 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Send that one to Rush, just in case he thinks he hasn’t caused enough of an uproar lately.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 11:14:22 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Obama administration is inching closer to lifting the ban on conservative blood donors.

WHAT!?! (idiots might get infected!!!!)


28 posted on 03/16/2012 11:20:56 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You can bank your own blood in case of future need. Maybe it needs to start coming down to that if this happens. These people are ripe with awful STD diseases that are permanent.


29 posted on 03/16/2012 11:29:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Can we just remind them of Ryan White and so many others who contracted aids from tainted blood?


30 posted on 03/16/2012 11:31:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Nothing could go wrong for the leftits.

They would love to see a hetero AIDS outbreak turning into a crisis because it would justify big government intervention and spending.


31 posted on 03/16/2012 11:35:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: funfan

Why would anyone want to have a friend who is homosexual?


32 posted on 03/16/2012 11:37:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: GeronL

Never let a good crisis go to waste.


33 posted on 03/16/2012 11:38:20 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I have given several gallons of blood through the years. Yet, i am now baned from giving due to a rare idiopathic blood disease that damn near killed me last year.

I am not screaming that i should be able to give blood. Who are all these homosexuals that just have to give blood?

34 posted on 03/16/2012 11:43:07 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: onedoug
May he receive the first transfusion....

maybe he just wants to be able to donate himself?

35 posted on 03/17/2012 12:55:10 AM PDT by C210N
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In a hundred billion years, neither Pelosi, Obama, or any other democrat party hack politician in Washington will ever allow themselves to receive a gay blood transfusion.

We peons will be infected with AIDS infected blood for their PC pandering purposes.


36 posted on 03/17/2012 1:01:39 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That’s one way of spreading equality.

But I’d bet the politicians and bureaucrats carve out a spescial loophole for themselves.


37 posted on 03/17/2012 1:24:49 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repubs paid as much attention to Rush as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

risk factors are risk factors, based on behavior, not on morality.

MSM spreads HIV, and the HIV test does not turn positive for several weeks or even three months. So if you have had sodomy in the last three months, you are at risk to spread HIV to someone who gets your blood.

So maybe they should ask if you have had anal sex without protection, which spreads HIV, rather than MSM...there are other MSM sexual practices that don’t spread HIV, and women can be sodomized.

Excuse my blunt language.


38 posted on 03/17/2012 1:44:50 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc

Concur.

One would think gay men or those with high risk of contracting AIDS would want an untainted blood supply available to them in the event they contracted HIV.

Instead, it appears they want to spread their contagion so everybody is at equal risk from their immoral behavior. They’ve already accepted the fact they will likely die from their behavior, so now they want to murder others.


39 posted on 03/17/2012 1:52:11 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

As long as they can keep the death losses down to the low thousands, and a few billions of dollars of medical costs, I guess they think that the public relations and politics are worth it.


40 posted on 03/17/2012 2:28:45 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Romney is a Mormon Bishop, as was his father, his uncle was in line to be the Mormon Prophet. Pope))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The Department of Health and Human Services said it plans to study alternatives to the 1983 ban on blood and plasma donations by men who have sex with other men.

Since the government is on a "roll" in connection with gay marriage and gay rights, they are again putting forth policies that increase risk to the mental and physical health and safety of the people.

There was a time when government advanced the health and safety of the public they had sworn to protect. But not anymore. If gays enjoy a shorter life span and more diseases, it is only "fair" for all to share in that misery in the name of equality for all and constitutional rights!

Is not this warped and twisted thinking pandemic?

41 posted on 03/17/2012 2:50:51 AM PDT by olezip
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‎"A notice about the study in the Federal Register this week explained that improved screening for HIV, Hepatitis B and Syphilis COULD still keep the blood supply safe." As long as their self esteem is improved, it's all good. Liberalism is a mental disorder. This is NOT our fathers' Democrat Party.
42 posted on 03/17/2012 3:52:29 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And if they had enforced the ban in ‘86, rather than selling tainted blood overseas, we would still have our eldest daughter.

Sorry. I know we Christians are supposed to forgive. That, I can not.


43 posted on 03/17/2012 4:36:23 AM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama must have weak polling among the gay community for this to be considered.


44 posted on 03/17/2012 4:52:15 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m sorry to say this, but the country is sliding into hell. You’ve got to make connections through churches and other non-government associations for things like blood transfusions.

>BTW This is why they’re going after the Catholic Church. The Catholics have always had their own schools, hospitals, etc., never trusting the government here or any place else. While I don’t agree with the Catholics on everything, their independence of the state is commendable.


45 posted on 03/17/2012 4:55:34 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: tcrlaf
I lost two good friends in the late 80’s-early 90’s to the The Great Hemopheliac Genocide that is politically-incorrect to talk about, because it was caused by gay-tainted blood.

In my case, it was one church friend I knew as a teenager back in the 70s. I occasionally was in contact with his older brother and found out that way.

Ditto to blood boiling! I have been precluded from donating for many years due to living in Europe pre-mad cow detection methods. I was a regular donator prior to that administrative restriction. Now we all have the potential to dance with the devil.

46 posted on 03/17/2012 5:07:38 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Have a friend right now waiting to see if she has HIV. Only possible source is 2 blood transfusions in recent years. Her immune system has been going to hell and is nonexistent, then she got large tumors, so they decided to test for HIV.

I believe there are homo men and maybe women, prostitutes, etc. who lie about their orientation and give blood. Last time I might need blood during an operation, gave my own ahead of time. However, that, too, is problematic.

vaudine

47 posted on 03/17/2012 5:20:09 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: tcrlaf
My blood boils EVERY SINGLE TIME I hear this...

Mine too! A dear friend lost both her sons - her only children - because they hemophiliacs who had received tainted blood in transfusions.

48 posted on 03/17/2012 5:26:29 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: funfan

Obviously, their “right” to self esteem trumps everyone else’s right to life. And if you say otherwise, you’re a homophobic bigot.

Any infections caused by this new policy will be swept under the rug by the Medical establishment and the MSM.


49 posted on 03/17/2012 5:27:46 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why the hell aren’t we using synthetic blood substitutes in the 21st century?!


50 posted on 03/17/2012 5:46:19 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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