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Dozens of Iraqi teenagers stoned to death for ‘emo’ haircuts: activists
Al Arabiya News ^ | Friday, 09 March 2012 | Al Arabiya

Posted on 03/09/2012 5:38:10 PM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: Lazamataz
Finally, something I can agree with the Iraqis on.

LOL, you said what I was thinking. I'm going to hell.

151 posted on 03/10/2012 4:10:10 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: momtothree
I have a teen (NOT emo) and I asked him the same question. From my understanding, it stands for emotionally distraught/disturbed. They wear black because life sucks. They listen to emo music which is about how difficult life is and that it sucks. Essentially, they are teens that that choose this type of image since they don’t fit into the jock/brain/popular crowd. Lots of black make-up, dye for their hair, black clothing that represents a living death. (now... aren’t you glad you asked?!) Mom

Geez, and I just hung out with the potheads and listened to metal. A lot easier and a lot more fun.

152 posted on 03/10/2012 4:12:51 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: EEGator
That would be Brian Johnson. He was in the Math club, the Physics club, and the Latin club.

Brian Johnson today:


153 posted on 03/10/2012 4:18:45 AM PST by Hacksaw
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emo? He looks like a handsome young man......was
154 posted on 03/10/2012 4:44:42 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Boogieman

“Moral Police? Looks like the only thing we’ve accomplished over there is creating West Iran.”

Dragging kids out of classrooms and stoning them to death doesn’t even happen in Iran. Sounds more like the barbarism under Saddam


155 posted on 03/10/2012 4:55:40 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Zhang Fei

The religion of peace just doing its job.


156 posted on 03/10/2012 6:20:21 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

The spray paint cans with the mixing ball that rattles when you shake it.


157 posted on 03/10/2012 6:25:56 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Wow, the ROP calling someone else devil worshipers - now that’s rich.


158 posted on 03/10/2012 6:31:07 AM PST by smalltownslick
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To: cripplecreek

So were Johnny Cash and Roy Orbison. Were they forerunners of goth and/or emo? Come to think of it, maybe Roy was with all the gloom and doom he embraced. But he roared it out, he didn’t whine about it.


159 posted on 03/10/2012 6:34:20 AM PST by smalltownslick
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To: Jack Hydrazine

WOW, in my day I thought Beatniks were bad.


160 posted on 03/10/2012 6:53:20 AM PST by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: livius
...adopting a sort of outsider identity that gives them a little group cohesion and also protects them from peer pressure simply because they are considered wierd and nobody wants them around.

Wow... I never thought of that, but it makes perfect sense. I don't know why it didn't occur to me, I remember reading theories about how anorexia nervosa was also (possibly) a coping strategy for young women who didn't want to be sexualized. (Not a GOOD coping strategy, mind you, but... it did make sense.)

I don't know about Iraq, but in the inner city of Los Angeles, it's a pressure cooker. These kids watch each other like hawks, and they pounce on any deviation from their sub-culture. Even doing too well in school can make you a target.

I see a lot of crossover between the emo, rocker, and skateboarder crowds in the student body. They are usually pretty bright and friendly, but they just don't want to do the gangster, novella, quinceanera thing. It's a trip to see a little Hispanic kid with blue hair in his eyes and a Nirvana shirt on, toting his skateboard around. Actually, it's cute until they start piercing their faces.

161 posted on 03/10/2012 6:56:43 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; little jeremiah; AuntB; metmom; ..

As was said by another poster, I’d rather live next door to an atheist than to someone who belongs to the so-called Religion of Peace.

I’ve seen a few emos where I live They look ridiculous, but are largely harmless and don’t bother other people.


162 posted on 03/10/2012 8:59:37 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued; All
I’d rather live next door to an atheist, a Nazi, a Commisar, E.T., LiLo or the rotting corpse of Flipper than to someone who belongs to the so-called Religion of Peace.
163 posted on 03/10/2012 9:09:48 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You may very well be correct but born to a muslim father makes ‘em muslim. Screw this kiddie ‘emo’ crappola, let ‘em look to the good Lord for influence. muslim/emo?.. both can go leap.


164 posted on 03/10/2012 10:01:12 AM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it doesn't get any better than that!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Just think how the clown crew at Kos is trying to filter this thru the logic of the multi-cult?


165 posted on 03/10/2012 10:23:10 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

After reading most of the comments on the thread, I wouldn’t call “emo” typical of American culture, nor would I advocate copying “emo-ism”. It is destructive and perverse. I’m sorry the Iraqi kids got influenced by it, and even sorrier that the Iraqi fiends are fiends and butchered the kids mercilessly.


166 posted on 03/10/2012 10:56:02 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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Pinging this out not just because it illustrates Iraqi butchery (WHY did we stay so long if they're still barbarian butchers???) but also describes what "emo-ism" is. I had no idea. Read all of Norm's comments, there are some other informative comments too. A bunch of mentally ill kids, self destructive in almost every way, and they like to get other kids into it. Not harmless, not funny, not cute. The results of a sick culture.

167 posted on 03/10/2012 11:00:21 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: nuconvert

Dear L-rd! This is what the Iraqis did to him?


168 posted on 03/10/2012 11:27:07 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you,Pumpkin. You are the best cat in the world. You're my Sweet Pea.)
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To: CrazyIvan

I’ve never heard a spray paint can called a rattle can before.

Don’t I feel like a dunce. :/


169 posted on 03/10/2012 11:29:25 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you,Pumpkin. You are the best cat in the world. You're my Sweet Pea.)
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To: little jeremiah

These are troubled kids.


170 posted on 03/10/2012 11:36:32 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Yes, the face-piercing thing is taking it out of cute. However, one time a doctor told me to let them do their piercings. When they grow up and get sane, then they can take them out and it will barely leave a scar. Tattoos, on the other hand...thousands of dollars of painful laser surgery later, they’re still scarred for life.

I particularly hate tongue piercings, especially when you go to a restaurant and the waitron is barely intelligible because of the large silver ball clicking against her teeth every time she moves her tongue to speak.


171 posted on 03/10/2012 12:44:08 PM PST by livius
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To: little jeremiah

No, “emo” isn’t typical of American culture. It’s more of a subculture. But my point is, they’re rejecting muslim/middle eastern culture. And who can blame them? Anything, even emo, is a step up from that.


172 posted on 03/10/2012 1:36:13 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: trisham

Extremely troubled, high suicide rates. Broken families created broken children. Very heart breaking. Add to that a toxic culture...


173 posted on 03/10/2012 1:47:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Emo is not a step up at all. It’s a sick little perverted and dangerous niche. Bisexual, high drug use and suicides? That’s not a step up, sorry.


174 posted on 03/10/2012 1:48:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
“I’ve never heard a spray paint can called a rattle can before.

Don’t I feel like a dunce. :/”

Maybe it says something positive about you. The “you might be a redneck if you use the term rattle can” kind of thing!

175 posted on 03/10/2012 5:44:49 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: little jeremiah

I disagree with you.


176 posted on 03/10/2012 6:42:15 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: CrazyIvan

LOL. I’m from the North so I’m unfamiliar with certain terms used in the South.


177 posted on 03/10/2012 7:15:36 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you,Pumpkin. You are the best cat in the world. You're my Sweet Pea.)
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To: dead

Just in case anyone was wondering what demons really looked like......


178 posted on 03/10/2012 8:20:07 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: A_perfect_lady; Norm Lenhart

Do you disagree with Norm Lenhart’s description of emos and their proclivities? That’s what my POV is based on, his (and some other peoples’) comments. Either he is lying/misinformed, or not. If he is not, then I cannot see how anyone could disagree with me. Certainly Islam indoctrination is disgusting evil, but obviously these kids were in trouble emotionally and succumbing to the dakrness of whatever emo-ism they were into did not help them at all. So I guess you could say that the evil of Islam trumps the misery and degradation of emo-ism, but they’re on the same continuum. At least if a person gets into emo-ism, they can get out of it (if they haven’t contracted AIDS or committed suicide), whereas leaving Islam is often fatal.


179 posted on 03/10/2012 8:21:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Zhang Fei

The Religion of Peace at it again. From what I read, it is not just emo, but other western style of dress.

As a recent college grad, I know several emo people. Not once did they ever stone, threaten, beat up, etc. people who weren’t emo. Any emotional or drug issues can be worked on, the desire to stone people who don’t dress like you can’t. I’ll take any emo over a RoP member any day.


180 posted on 03/10/2012 8:56:44 PM PST by matt04
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To: little jeremiah

I base it on the fact that the emo-hair kids at my school don’t seem to be doing any of those things. In fact, they are the ones that stay out of gangs and out of prison. Eventually they grow out of that emo phase and turn into normal kids. Just my personal observation.


181 posted on 03/10/2012 9:08:37 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady; Norm Lenhart

I didn’t see which of my comments you were responding to until after I responded to your response...

Apparently there are emos who “dress up” and those who act up. Perhaps the ones in your school (that you know of, I doubt you know all their habits and procvlities and personal lives outside of school) are doing the dress up part but not the drugs/bisexuality/cutting stuff. Or maybe they are and you are not aware of it.

Who knows. But one thing I know is that Norm Lenhart is an exceptionally informed person and he he makes comments, he knows what he’s talking about.


182 posted on 03/10/2012 9:38:56 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; Perdogg; SunkenCiv; NFHale

The emo look can be hot on girls. No one cares for the emo boys, they are a bane on the world. But this is taking it way too far Iraq!

Some of the uh, favorable comments in this thread are amusing but in all seriousness this is pretty effed up.

What is with these people and rocks anyway? Not only do they love to throw rocks but they worship a giant black rock in apparent violation of their own strict prohibition of idolatry.


183 posted on 03/10/2012 11:56:25 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: little jeremiah; A_perfect_lady

Hi LJ,

Thanks for the good words ;)

First, before I say any more, I want to point out that the Koranimals that killed these kids should be tracked down and shot. Period. Much as I may think little of the whole Emo thing, I do not wish what happened upon them.

Now as for the rest...

Although I have been know to be spectacularly wrong on occasion (See my Palin prediction) this is a subject I am well versed in for 3 reasons. One, I raised a daughter as a single parent (wife died of cancer when she was young) and as such I had access to info daughters do not usually share with fathers...since I had to play both parts. Two, my hobbies are musical and so I’m immersed in a world that often puts me amidst that culture. Three, my ongoing book project on critical thought and the lack thereof in modern society included a lot of research that again, landed me in that (online) culture on several occasions and I researched it deeply since it is the definition of decisions lacking any critical thought whatsoever.

...And those ‘smart’ kids will be the leaders of this and other countries in a few years... using the lack of critical thought they grew up with and that established their worldview, to really help wreck the joint.

Now, for those on the thread who brush off the whole Emo phenomena as just smart kids doing their thing, protecting themselves etc...YES, there is indeed truth there. They DO do that and many of them are HIGHLY intelligent. To a point. Follow along and notice the paradoxes and the inherent problems such cause...

The problem is not that. The problem is the rest that goes along with it. Remember all the smart kids in the 60s who got into the whole Hippie thing...which in turn shaped their future worldviews? Guys like Bill Ayres, Bernadine Dorn, Charlie Manson, Barak Obama....

Emo ‘teaches’ that Bi/Homosexuality is not only OK but the superior way as it doubles your chances for free and unrestricted sex and promoter ‘tolerance’. It ignores all the social and health problems like agonizing death from AIDS and killing a few dozen of your F-buddies in the dame agonizing fashion.

Emo ‘teaches’ that multi-culti is the way of the future, that there are no differences in cultures and that we can all co exist – muslim/christian, etc. Like magic. No problem.

Emo is primarily atheistic and blames problems in cultures on religion, ALL religion...which means if you end religion, you and associated problems.

Emo is the definition of counterculture. Anything us old folks (old being anything over 25ish or so) do, think etc, is bad and should be abolished. The difference between that and any similar thinking kid of the past 5 centuries is that they actively work to do it. See above on religion/homosexuality and....

Emo ‘teaches’ that liberalism is the way truth and light. Free sex, free abortion, communistic economics et all.

There are also things like Emos being a large part of the OWS movement. “Hipster” is merely an older emo. Same people, just older (though not always). So you have a hate of the capitalistic system.

Now this is already a full printed page and I have just scratched the surface.

These kids are the end result of broken families, liberal ideals, the MSM pushing those ideals and ‘old’ people like us turning a blind eye and through our inattention to them, ensuring their broken view on life, the world, morality et all, will propagate.

Those of you who have kids or contact with kids into the Emo thing, Talk to them. Ask them to REALLY use the intelligence they have to critically look at themselves and their friends and say “does this really add up”?

Lastly, until people stop looking and saying ‘oh, it’s just a phase’, we are collectively letting an entire generation of our future, perhaps one of the last, self destruct. It isn’t cute, it isn’t harmless. It is the polar opposite of everything we believe in.

Everyone doubting any of this, PLEASE, Don’t take my ranting for it...

L-O-O-K I-T U-P F-O-R Y-O-U-R-S-E-L-V-E-S!


184 posted on 03/11/2012 1:11:28 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: A_perfect_lady

It happens sure. I don’t doubt your word.

In my area, to date, one of my daughters then-emo schoolmates blew his head off. Another died huffing chemicals. Another ODd on pills. One has had multiple abortions and thinks nothing of it. Several have done time for drug charges. Most had STDs though avoided AIDS. Her ex-2 year boyfriend was nailed as a meth dealer No one had any clue as he had his ‘operation’ outside their circles. He had two great parents too. Decently wealthy.

Think about that. 2 years and he hid it that well. His own ‘friends’ were totally clueless. That mentality is pervasive. “Do what thou will”. Crowley believed that too. He was an accomplished liar and didn’t think about anyone but himself, his wants et all. That’s Emo and how many of them think, and act.

And this was in small/medium town America. All the families were ‘normal’ in the general sense. All the kids decent in school.

They didn’t grow out of it. Some do. Out of her ‘circle’ my daughter and one other made it to normalicy relatively unschathed. See above for the rest. But the culture itself is toxic as hell and drags many down the spiral.


185 posted on 03/11/2012 1:53:20 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart; little jeremiah

I don’t know exactly what it is you gentlemen want from me or why you keep badgering me. I gather you want me to try to convert emo kids to Christianity? That’s not happening. They are correct when they say that religion is toxic. That they might embrace liberalism in its place is problematic, but does point to the difficulty humans have in finding structure without other people giving it to them. I will always be a voice for certain conservative values: individualism, hard work, responsibility, clean living, etc. But I have no interest in shoving the kids back to Christianity. If they are trying to free themselves of a gang culture (that is actually comfortably entwined with Christianity) or muslim culture in Iraq, they have my sympathies and support.


186 posted on 03/11/2012 7:55:47 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

I don’t ‘want’ anything. I thought we were having a discussion. My apologies.


187 posted on 03/11/2012 8:02:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: A_perfect_lady

I’m not badgering you. You disagreed with me, and I explained why I am right and you are wrong, and a pinged Norm since he knows a lot about the topic.

You only like people to respond to your comments who agree with you?


188 posted on 03/11/2012 8:06:13 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: A_perfect_lady

“If they are trying to free themselves of a gang culture (that is actually comfortably entwined with Christianity)”

I rescind that apology as I missed this. You are on the wrong website. You did read the FR mission statement on the front page didn’t you?


189 posted on 03/11/2012 8:10:50 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Zhang Fei

“Abdul-Raheem al-Rikabi, Baghdad representative for Iraq’s most influential Shi’ite cleric, Ali al-Sistani, called the killings “terrorist attacks”.

“Such a phenonomenon which has spread among young people should be tackled through dialogue and peaceful means and not through physical liquidation,” Rikabi told Reuters.”


190 posted on 03/11/2012 8:13:09 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Sadly Rush has addressed this repeatedly on his show. He has no intention. Unfortunately.


191 posted on 03/11/2012 8:20:02 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: nuconvert

Oops...wrong thread. This was meant for the Rush/Carbonite thread.


192 posted on 03/11/2012 8:21:15 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Well, I’m here. Lots of conservative atheists are here. As long as the owner of this website appreciates what we can contribute as conservatives, we’ll be here.


193 posted on 03/11/2012 9:01:06 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

As it should be. It’s his site after all. You know the one that says..”Welcome to Free Republic, America’s exclusive site for God, Family, Country, Life & Liberty conservatives!”. Somehow it seems odd that equating christians to an organized gang is consistent with that.

His call, not mine. I can however point it out to you in case you somehow missed it.

Most non-militant atheists I talk with on FR seem to be able to keep their beliefs in check. But in the two ‘conversations’ you and I have ever had on FR you have gone to the atheist schtick slamming Christianity both times. I wonder why. This one had nothing to do with Christianity.


194 posted on 03/11/2012 9:28:48 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: A_perfect_lady; Norm Lenhart

I am wondering why you equate gang culture’s trappings of Chrisitan symbols with actual Christianity. I realize you’ve stated that you are an atheist, but it seems that you are an aggressive atheists who thinks there is no value in religious belief. In fact, you clearly state that “religion is toxic”.

Why do you hang out on FR since your beliefs are in diametric opposition to the mission of FR, other than I suppose low taxes and 2nd Amendment rights? You hate religion and from what I’ve read all social conservative posiitons.

I don’t “want” you to do anything - you have free will; I don’t see where anything I or Norm (courtesy ping) said made you think that either one of us were trying to “get” you to do anything. Sincere belief in God is definitely a stabilizing influence on anyone’s life.

The list of conservative values you list are notably absent of any social conservative issues but I know you well enough to know that is not an oversight.


195 posted on 03/11/2012 9:45:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You are the one who brought up atheism.


196 posted on 03/11/2012 9:50:42 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Zhang Fei

197 posted on 03/11/2012 9:51:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: little jeremiah

My point is, believing in God does NOT keep people out of gangs and crime.


198 posted on 03/11/2012 9:51:38 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: EEGator
Why these hairdos never caught on is a mystery to me.

Apologies to all you VanBuren-bots.

199 posted on 03/11/2012 9:59:36 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.
I'm partial to the Samsonite CEO hair do ...


200 posted on 03/11/2012 10:02:40 AM PDT by OwenKellogg
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