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Energy Will Be Obama's Waterloo: And it will all be his doing -- blaming Bush won't cut it anymore.
American Spectator ^ | 3.2.12 | William Tucker

Posted on 03/02/2012 8:55:43 PM PST by neverdem

When President Obama suggested last week that we might eventually be replacing oil with algae, Mark Whittington of Yahoo suggested that the President had reached his "lunar base moment." It was an apt analogy...

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After spending a year failing to pass cap-and-trade, the Administration has doubled down with the Environmental Protection Agency, turning it loose on the nation's coal plants. The Sierra Club just celebrated the closing of the 100th coal boiler, with more to come. Just what this will mean for the reliability of the electric grid will be revealed this summer when electrical demand peaks. Last August, with temperatures at 110 degrees, Texas consumed a record 68,000 megawatts of electricity with only 76,000 MW of generating capacity on hand. Since then, the EPA has demanded the closure of 10,000 MW of Texas coal. The state has dodged the bullet only by going to court. Industrial states from Pennsylvania to Wisconsin are facing the same dilemma. If the region starts suffering power shortages this...

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At bottom, the real problem is what Charles Murray describes in his new book, Coming Apart --the growing gap between college-educated people schooled in the wish fulfillment of "green energy" and the hard-won, hard-nosed wisdom of blue-collar America. To the elite in New York, Washington and San Francisco, energy generation is something we're trying to put behind us. It's déclassé. Only in blue-collar regions like Pennsylvania, Ohio and North Dakota do the realities of energy become visible, tangible, and audible -- and taxable.

The good news for Republicans is that the battle lines are drawn. After a summer of $5 gas plus power shortages in industrial regions, the results of four years of Obama energy policies will be hard to avoid. And there won't be any George Bushes around to take the blame.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: energy; energypolicy; greenenergy
Say hello to the Jacksonian Democrats. The rats don't want them anymore.
1 posted on 03/02/2012 8:55:52 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Energy will be Obama’s undoing. The Energy crisis of 1979 was Jimmy Carters albatross.
2 posted on 03/02/2012 8:57:09 PM PST by U-238
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To: neverdem

Who is John Galt?


3 posted on 03/02/2012 8:58:49 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: neverdem

http://www.aei.org/article/energy-and-the-environment/the-myth-of-green-energy-jobs-the-european-experience/


4 posted on 03/02/2012 8:59:05 PM PST by U-238
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To: neverdem
Only in blue-collar regions like Pennsylvania, Ohio and North Dakota do the realities of energy become visible, tangible, and audible -- and taxable.

In my part of flyover Pennsyltucky there is no retail less than three miles away...one way. No public transportation unless you are over 65. Unless you're an experienced mountain biker internal combustion driving is a necessity.

5 posted on 03/02/2012 9:00:32 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: neverdem

not sure anything can stick to this ‘teflon’ nothing sticks pres.


6 posted on 03/02/2012 9:00:53 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: neverdem
After a summer of $5 gas plus power shortages in industrial regions,the results of four years of Obama energy policies will be hard to avoid.

Great post! Thanks.

7 posted on 03/02/2012 9:01:29 PM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: neverdem
Just watch, more than a few “libertarian” types are already saying silly things about energy prices not really being under the control of Obama.

Well? For me, it is enough the Obama WANTS high energy prices, and that he AND his Energy Secretary have said so.

I subscribe to an energy investment newsletter, and the Paulbots there almost seem to defend Obama, at times.

But, of course, they WANT scarce energy -—

8 posted on 03/02/2012 9:02:25 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: neverdem

This is what is most troubling:

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” — Author Unknown


9 posted on 03/02/2012 9:05:12 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: neverdem

“When President Obama suggested last week that we might eventually be replacing oil with algae, Mark Whittington of Yahoo suggested that the President had reached his “lunar base moment.””

I doubt you all will be laughing when the Gingrich-Obama Lunar Base Alpha is humming away powered by its massive algae biofuel farms :P


10 posted on 03/02/2012 9:05:47 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: neverdem


11 posted on 03/02/2012 9:06:24 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Vendome
Who is John Galt?

I dunno!

12 posted on 03/02/2012 9:08:18 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: neverdem

When is some state like Texas going to stand up and tell the imperial federal government to kiss its you know what? How much longer do we as a free people, given to us by God, and the US Constitution going to stand for this crap. These envirowackkos, socialists, communists, homo loving dimocrats continue to drive PC down our throats and demand we bow to them. I am frankly sick and tire of it. We are a free people. We have states. Those states have rights to determine what too do with their own states and those states resources. The federal government has gotten too big for its pants. Like trying to stuff a size 44 into a 36 pair of pants. Won’t fit!


13 posted on 03/02/2012 9:08:28 PM PST by RetiredArmy (POLITICIANS: Promise the moon. Deliver the shaft.)
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To: television is just wrong

Yeah but this would stick and would stick bad... No amount of lies and propaganda can convince the majority of voters that it is not Obama and the democrats fault that gas prices are so high and causing a lot of hurt.


14 posted on 03/02/2012 9:08:38 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: Kansas58
"But, of course, they WANT scarce energy"


15 posted on 03/02/2012 9:08:43 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: television is just wrong

Yeah but this would stick and would stick bad... No amount of lies and propaganda can convince the majority of voters that it is not Obama and the democrats fault that gas prices are so high and causing a lot of hurt.


16 posted on 03/02/2012 9:08:55 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: unkus

Thank you for repeating it once again. Yes, that is what’s most troubling.


17 posted on 03/02/2012 9:09:54 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Vendome

Dude! you’re out of line- we’re all on this planet together.

Bush’s coal and oil poison is killing us.


18 posted on 03/02/2012 9:13:29 PM PST by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: neverdem

Destroying dams. Destroying a critical pipeline. Wiping out the oil industry of the nation.
Its hard to know if we are discussing the allies attacking Nazi Germany,, or Obama attacking the USA.


19 posted on 03/02/2012 9:14:51 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: U-238

Thanks for the link.


20 posted on 03/02/2012 9:15:16 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: One Name

Time to cry on China.... I’m sure they care.


21 posted on 03/02/2012 9:21:09 PM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: One Name

Time to cry on China.... I’m sure they care.


22 posted on 03/02/2012 9:21:34 PM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: unkus

I believe that quote came from a Czech newspaper. Not sure the author either.

It is troubling but I make sure to paraphrase that quote to my democrat friends. Usually takes them aback.


23 posted on 03/02/2012 9:23:31 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Vendome
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24 posted on 03/02/2012 9:23:50 PM PST by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: neverdem

Obama’s Waterloo: And it will all be his doing — blaming Bush won’t cut it anymore.

His blaming Bush not “cutting it anymore” shouldn’t matter-—the fact that Bath-House Barry desperately wants to destroy this country ASAP is.


25 posted on 03/02/2012 9:27:18 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: neverdem
Waterloo?

That's in Iowa, where Obama did good last time.

If it's a Napoleonic reference, then let's know that our slick opponent hates more the sunlight of truth than cannon shot from us belligerents.

26 posted on 03/02/2012 9:27:34 PM PST by Rudder
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To: unkus
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” — Author Unknown damn but that is good
27 posted on 03/02/2012 9:28:21 PM PST by onona (Dicky Betts is one ramblin man !)
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To: unkus
...an electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

And, and after all the damage he's done, may re-elect him!

28 posted on 03/02/2012 9:29:32 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Cold Heart

t is troubling but I make sure to paraphrase that quote to my democrat friends. Usually takes them aback.


I’ve copied the quote and handed it out. Some get mad, others become pensive.


29 posted on 03/02/2012 9:36:19 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: luvbach1

...an electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

And, and after all the damage he’s done, may re-elect him!


Scary. If he gets reelected, we’ll see some ugly incidents. Americans aren’t going to take it lightly as their country is being destroyed.


30 posted on 03/02/2012 9:40:58 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: DesertRhino
BINGO...DING...Ding ...ding....we have a winner.

Its hard to know if we are discussing the allies attacking Nazi Germany,, or Obama attacking the USA.

Sir Winston Churchill to his war cabinet on strategy to defeat the Nazis:

1. Destroy means of production and distribution of petroleum

2. Destroy coal mining and distribution and electrical generation.

3. Destroy manufacturing capacity starting with the ball bearing factories.

Seems to me 0bambi is channeling Churchill and making war on the American people.

31 posted on 03/02/2012 9:44:44 PM PST by spokeshave (Dole/McCain/Romney losers all....NEWT is da Man)
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To: himno hero

I’m messing with Vendome- inside joke. Not to worry!


32 posted on 03/02/2012 9:44:51 PM PST by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: luvbach1

...an electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

And, and after all the damage he’s done, may re-elect him!
_______________________________

That’s that saddest part of all! And some of them are my relatives!


33 posted on 03/02/2012 9:51:56 PM PST by KazyD (Aspiring Punk Rock Republican)
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To: neverdem; All

34 posted on 03/02/2012 9:52:39 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: onona; unkus

Exactly!

He (Obama) is a convenient target but it is our neighbors and fellow citizens, distracted and unenlightened or uninterested who are condemning us to a fate they fail to apprehend.

One has to start in your own house sometimes and then work next door...

Even if you are in a solidly red state as I am your contacts, whom you influence with your messages have contacts in battleground states.

No one can rest this year- use your e-mail contacts and beyond to do good work!


35 posted on 03/02/2012 9:53:42 PM PST by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: neverdem

All I can say is drill, drill, drill and at the same time explore all other resources from which we can either extract or covert them to oil such as shale and coal. At the same time we should embark on a massive construction schedule of nuclear power plants which can provide clean and reasonably priced energy, of course any other supplemental energy source is more than welcome such as wind, solar etc.

At the same time great effort should be expanded and research subsidized by our government to bring about the nuclear fusion process as it is much cleaner and safer and has none of the nuclear waste as by products and will provide us with a near limitless supply of energy for generations to come.

There is little doubt in my mind that we will have to reach this point very soon as the survival of our society is at stake. In the long run no society can grow and prosper without a plentiful and reasonably priced supply of energy. The results of what happens if we do not happen to have these resources can be seen all around us with prices of almost everything going out of sight.

Unfortunately we still have way too many politicians who are unable to grasp the bigger picture and instead of making a concentrated and concerted effort to solve our energy problem picker amongst themselves about things which should be secondary in nature at best.

Bluntly spoken lets face it, when you have to put most of your money in to your gas tank or leave it at the grocery store there is not much left to be spent on anything else which in turn will depress our economy, this is something most of our politicians fail to grasp and I do not take pleasure to mention that it is at their own peril..

Right now we have not even reached the number one level of a society. Applying the laws of thermodynamics and energy, astrophysicists who scan the heavens have been able to classify hypothetical extraterrestrial civilizations in to three types, based on ways they utilize energy. Russian astronomer Nikolai Kardashev and Princeton physicist Freeman Dyson label them Type I, II and III civilizations.

Assuming a modest yearly increase in energy consumption, one can extrapolate centuries in to the future when certain energy supplies will be exhausted, forcing society to advance to the next level.

A type 1 society is one that has mastered all forms of terrestrial energy. Such a society can modify the weather (does that remind you of something?) mine the oceans, or extract energy from the center of their planet. Their energy needs are so large that they must harness the potential resources of their entire planet. Harnessing and managing resources on this gigantic scale requires a sophisticated degree of cooperation among heir individuals with elaborate planetary communication. This by necessity means that they have attained a truly planetary civilization, one that has put to rest most of their fictional, religious, sectarian, and nationalistic struggles that typifies their origin.

Type 2 civilizations have mastered stellar energy. Their energy needs are so great that they have exhausted planetary sources and must use their sun itself to drive their machines. Dyson has speculated that, by building a giant sphere around their sun, such a civilization might be able to harness their sun’s total energy output. They also have begun the exploration and possible colonization of nearby star systems.

Type 3 civilizations have exhausted the energy output of a single star. They must reach out to neighboring star systems and clusters, and eventually evolve in to a galactic civilization. They obtain their energy by harnessing collections of star systems throughout the galaxy.

To give a sense of scale, the United Federation of Planets described in Star Trek probably qualifies for an emerging Type 2 status, as they just have attained the ability to ignite stars and have colonized a few nearby star systems.

This system of classifying civilizations is a reasonable one because it relies on the available supply of energy. Any advanced civilization in space will eventually find three sources of energy at their disposal: their planet, their star, and their galaxy. There is no other choice.

The conclusion is that no country or society can grow and prosper without a reasonably priced plentiful supply of energy.


36 posted on 03/02/2012 10:11:11 PM PST by saintgermaine
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To: One Name

.....it is our neighbors and fellow citizens, distracted and unenlightened or uninterested who are condemning us to a fate they fail to apprehend.


Well said, One Name. Very frustrating and disgusting.


37 posted on 03/02/2012 10:12:43 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: neverdem

War with Iran will be this little stalin’s Stalingrad!


38 posted on 03/02/2012 10:15:14 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: neverdem

recalling a Gates investment, I did a search on Bill Gates invests algae and came up with an article dated 2008 about Sapphire Energy that Gates invested heavily in. They were supposed to have made gasoline from algae by 2011, projecting a whopping 10,000 barrels a day. I’d guess they’re still trying. but 10K/day doesn’t sound like a whole lot of anything.


39 posted on 03/02/2012 10:31:02 PM PST by blueplum
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To: One Name

I know!


40 posted on 03/02/2012 10:55:19 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: blueplum

“A 2009 Los Angeles Times profile of company CEO Jason Pyle said Sapphire hopes to produce 1 million US gallons (3,800 m 3 ) of algae diesel and jet fuel each year in the next two years and 1 billion US gallons (3,800,000 m 3 ) of fuel a year by 2025. [9] More recently, however, in aanuary 2011 interview Pyle avoids stating precise production goals and advises to “never quantify productivity in terms of gallons per acre per year.”

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapphire_Energy

A million gallons per year by 2011. Gee, I wonder what happened.


41 posted on 03/02/2012 11:12:40 PM PST by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: television is just wrong
I'm not so sure of that. He has not polled above 50% in months/years and this is with lots of manipulation by the MSM polling groups. He is a disaster for middle America and he will be defeated.
42 posted on 03/03/2012 1:39:23 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: One Name

Dude! you’re out of line- we’re all on this planet together.

Bush’s coal and oil poison is killing us.

Uh, get with the times man. THAT’S OBAMA’S COAL AND OIL POISON IS KILLING US.


43 posted on 03/03/2012 2:52:40 AM PST by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: U-238

Having been around then i can tell you that the daily humiliation of the hostages in Iran as well as the tragic rescue effort both played a very large part in Carters loss.


44 posted on 03/03/2012 3:00:54 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: lightman
Unless you're an experienced mountain biker internal combustion driving is a necessity.

President Dick Obama responds: Under my plan, people like you are going to either move to the big city or die. We are going to make it so difficult for you to survive, that you will cease to exist unless you do what I want.

45 posted on 03/03/2012 3:33:29 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: unkus

I have a title for a book: “How the Hell did Barack Obama become President??”

Lay it out step by step how our society has corroded to such a degree that more 50% of us voted for him.


46 posted on 03/03/2012 3:40:04 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

It’s the dumbing down of America and the Communist Manefesto. The Communists have won to a great extent.

But I also blame George Bush. Bush had the intelligence on him and did nothing. Now we have an avowed enemy of the United States in our White House.

And a Marxist at that.

We’re now in a Marxist controlled or dominated Oligarchy.

Tha American “Nomenclatura” is now in place.

It won’t matter who is the next president except a Republican would slow down the train wreck a little.

IMO, of course.


47 posted on 03/03/2012 8:31:01 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.


48 posted on 03/03/2012 2:28:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: neverdem; All
After a summer of $5 gas....the results of four years of Obama energy policies will be hard to avoid.

I'll pay $10 a gallon from now until Election Day if it will get Obozo out of the White House. And I drive 60 miles round trip to and from work each day.
49 posted on 03/03/2012 8:54:29 PM PST by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy and no "out of touch" Rev. Rick........Gingrich.... YES!!!)
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To: Right Wing Assault; All

“How the Hell did Barack Obama become President??”
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One word: ENTITLEMENTS. 49 percent of Americans don’t pay taxes. They want a free ride for themselves, paid for by others. That keeps people like BHO in power. Add to that 49 percent, the ultra-liberal baby-killers, same-sex marriage proponents, environmentalist wackos and the Socialists. That’s a majority. I say it’s time for a friggin’ REVOLUTION.


50 posted on 03/03/2012 9:03:33 PM PST by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy and no "out of touch" Rev. Rick........Gingrich.... YES!!!)
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