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Cover-up of Townsville mutiny: black GIs turned on officers
The Australian ^ | 11th February 2012 | Jamie Walker

Posted on 02/10/2012 4:28:22 PM PST by naturalman1975

BLACK US troops mutinied in Townsville in 1942 and turned machineguns on their officers, in a secret chapter of the war in the Pacific that has come to light through the papers of the late US president Lyndon B. Johnson.

The scandal was hushed up for nearly 70 years after being described in a report given to and apparently kept by Johnson as "one of the biggest stories of the war which can't be written, shouldn't be written".

The subject of rumour and speculation for decades in the north Queensland city, it has now emerged that the mutiny was probably reported at the time to the White House by Johnson, then a young and ambitious US congressman, after he visited Australia in June 1942 on a fact-finding mission for president Franklin D. Roosevelt.

The report Johnson took back to Washington, written for him by US journalist Robert Sherrod, tells how 600 African-American GIs seized their base and went on the rampage, trying to kill their white officers.

Some terrorised local civilians.

Armed Australian troops were sent in at the height of the emergency on the US base.

George Gnezdiloff, then a 20-year-old private in the north Queensland-raised 51st battalion, was told to block Ross River Road with his bren gun carrier. Other soldiers were issued with a password, Bucks, as they deployed to bottle up the Americans.

Gnezdiloff and his crew were ordered to shoot the mutineers on sight. "We had ammo, the lot," the now 90-year-old recalled yesterday from his home in Proserpine, 300km south of Townsville.

"We weren't mucking around, I can tell you."

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 02/10/2012 4:28:29 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Article is behind a paywall - contact me if you want to see it (Fair use under Australian copyright law - one article from a publication may be copied for educational purposes)


2 posted on 02/10/2012 4:30:28 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

What happened that would lead to mutiny?


3 posted on 02/10/2012 4:31:33 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: naturalman1975

saving


4 posted on 02/10/2012 4:33:49 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: naturalman1975

bookmarked with maximal non-surprise.

If they covered THIS up in the bad old days, how much more is covered up in these P.C. NEW days, huh..?


5 posted on 02/10/2012 4:37:04 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Jonty30

According to a site I found when using the title in the search engine.

“After some serial abuse by two white US officers, there was several ringleaders and they decided to machine gun the tents of the white officers,” Mr Holyoak said.


6 posted on 02/10/2012 4:37:07 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: naturalman1975
Here's a link to a different source.
7 posted on 02/10/2012 4:37:46 PM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: naturalman1975
You absolutely won't see a movie about this....it's not politically-correct, and black-on-white crime is NEVER publicized like "Hate Crimes" when it's white-on-black.

"Holder's People" have a way of being kept "covered".

8 posted on 02/10/2012 4:38:11 PM PST by traditional1 (Stay thirsty, my friends.)
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To: naturalman1975

It’s a little bit hard to believe that something of this magnitude could have been hushed up for 70 years.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 4:38:11 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Jonty30

Allegedly a black Sergeant was killed by a white officer, and there was no real investigation.

This came on top of a belief by the black soldiers that they were being given the worst work details. It should also be said that black soldiers based in Australia - as well as having to deal with the realities that the US Army was segregated, were also having to deal with very racist Australian laws of the time. It’s not surprising tensions existed even without specific triggers.


10 posted on 02/10/2012 4:39:22 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
So...

Port Chicago = OK to talk about

Townsville = Not OK

Gotta get the rules straight

11 posted on 02/10/2012 4:40:52 PM PST by Regulator
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To: gaijin
"If they covered THIS up in the bad old days, how much more is covered up in these P.C. NEW days, huh..?"

How about the history, background and controllers of our president?

12 posted on 02/10/2012 4:42:55 PM PST by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: naturalman1975

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10784814

The Kiwi’s don’t seem to be as keen to make a buck.


13 posted on 02/10/2012 4:42:55 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: naturalman1975

For later


14 posted on 02/10/2012 4:45:22 PM PST by politicianslie (Obama: America's first Muslim POTUS, doing all he can to destroy America. HELLO, can anyone think?)
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To: naturalman1975

Can’t really blame them then. If a military camp is segregated and the black side is being treated as if they were in the gulag, can’t really blame them.


15 posted on 02/10/2012 4:45:40 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Steely Tom

Search Exercise Tiger to see the magnitude of things that could be covered up, then forgotten.


16 posted on 02/10/2012 4:45:46 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

ping for your list


17 posted on 02/10/2012 4:47:07 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Jonty30

Most mutinies are sparked by genuine problems and often unfair treatment but mutiny is still mutiny.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 4:47:49 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Search Exercise Tiger to see the magnitude of things that could be covered up, then forgotten.

Thanks for the info. That incident was not covered up though. Rush Limbaugh talked about it during the period of the Iraq War when the MSM was going wild every time a US soldier got killed with "the war is lost" stories.

19 posted on 02/10/2012 4:51:07 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: naturalman1975

If you copy the link and Go ogle it and click the link there then the story will come up.


20 posted on 02/10/2012 4:51:22 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
From the Kiwi article"

"The 96th Engineers, a negro battalion, had a mutiny a few months back and expended 30,000 rounds of machine gun ammo. Luckily no one was hurt but they were after the white officers."

21 posted on 02/10/2012 4:51:44 PM PST by fso301
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To: traditional1
You absolutely won't see a movie about this..

Are you kidding? This is right up Spike Lee's alley, and of course the white guys will be made out to be the bad guys.

22 posted on 02/10/2012 4:53:46 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: naturalman1975

Watch what happens when Whitey stops paying all that welfare to the Diversity Crowd. It ain’t gonna be pretty.


23 posted on 02/10/2012 4:54:33 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Steely Tom

Agreed, but it was covered up at the time. This mutiny would easily have been covered up entirely, and forgotten.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 4:55:01 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: naturalman1975
If this is what I'm thinking, there was one or two points where they were traveling across the Pacific on cargo or troopships, where white soldiers and sailors were allowed to have leave when they were in port, while the black soldiers were not.

Those cargo and troopships were not the best of conditions to begin with. If you were being confined to ship simply because you were black...I know I'd be pissed as hell if I saw one group get leave because they were of a certain color, and I wasn't because I was of a different color.
25 posted on 02/10/2012 4:55:34 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Jonty30
Johnson's writeup on the incident (pdf)
26 posted on 02/10/2012 4:55:46 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks - good to know


27 posted on 02/10/2012 4:56:39 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Jonty30; All
Here are three pages of LBJ's report, it's not pleasant reading:

Report

28 posted on 02/10/2012 4:57:56 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: PapaBear3625

Thank you.


29 posted on 02/10/2012 4:58:55 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: af_vet_rr
I hope most people do realise that in the past there was, at times, genuine racism at work and genuine racial discrimination and those who experienced it have and had every right to resent it and be angry about it. I'm sure the black soldiers in Townsville - who had to deal with both the segregated policies of the US army, and Australian laws in the era of 'the White Australia Policy' had genuine reasons to feel badly treated.
30 posted on 02/10/2012 5:03:31 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
This came on top of a belief by the black soldiers that they were being given the worst work details. It should also be said that black soldiers based in Australia - as well as having to deal with the realities that the US Army was segregated, were also having to deal with very racist Australian laws of the time. It’s not surprising tensions existed even without specific triggers.

According to the Lyndon Johnson writeup (post #26) on big factor was that the Australian women wanted noting to do with black GIs, not even the prostitutes. This created a bit of tension...

31 posted on 02/10/2012 5:04:08 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: naturalman1975

This is not the only WWII mutiny. I have a family member, now deceased, who was himself involved in a pretty serious affair in Hawaii and it’s well known within the family on my mother’s side. It was all hushed up and he spent 2 years and an army infirmary being “treated” for mental disorders, released as fully recovered and even allowed to re-up again. Family history, you won’t read about it in any text book


32 posted on 02/10/2012 5:11:44 PM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: dfwgator

I could see Spike Lee making a movie about White soldiers shooting their Black Officers.....I don’t know how many more times the Tuskeegee Airmen can be shown to us in movies, spot commercials, and State-Run-Media hype.


33 posted on 02/10/2012 5:11:44 PM PST by traditional1 (Stay thirsty, my friends.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Absolutely riveting, amazing history. Directly supports a theory I have long harbored which can't be written, shouldn't be written.
34 posted on 02/10/2012 5:19:09 PM PST by stormhill
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To: naturalman1975
one source
35 posted on 02/10/2012 5:20:51 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Navy Patriot
LBJ mentions a white officer from Columbus, Georgia.

I once heard a talk about the desegregation of the Army during the Korean War. It seems the Army believed that Southerners were better suited as officers for black units (when the officers were white and the enlisted men were black) because they "understood" black people better than Northern whites.

Johnson's comments about MacArthur are interesting. I know a survivor of the Bataan Death March who was not a fan of MacArthur (he is still alive but apparently has dementia--haven't seen him in years).

36 posted on 02/10/2012 5:22:04 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: naturalman1975

“Most mutinies are sparked by genuine problems and often unfair treatment but mutiny is still mutiny.”

Very true.


37 posted on 02/10/2012 5:51:32 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: naturalman1975

I suspect I have an answer for him. The US has never ‘fessed up to how many military criminal prisoners were hung during the war, but there are strong suggestions that hundreds may have met that fate.

They try to suggest that Pvt. Slovik was the only one, but this is not the case.

I know of at least one military prison camp in southern Arizona, completely unknown today except for one reference about it carrying out frequent executions. No trace remains in the desert. It was not near Fort Huachuca, which is still an active military post.

As an aside, today military executions are never carried out, as the president must confirm the execution, and while George W. Bush was willing, the Pentagon intervened before he could order the execution and commuted it to life imprisonment.

Back then, however, execution orders were in the exclusive province of the military. While Supreme Commander Eisenhower authorized the execution of Slovik, in most cases a much lower ranking convening authority was likely able to confirm the sentence.


38 posted on 02/10/2012 5:57:23 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Steely Tom; Tijeras_Slim

“Exercise Tiger” cover up is the longest running piece of mis-information story of WWII.

The US Army released the news about the sinking of the troopships of Exercise Tiger in the late fall of 1944, after the Normandy invasion was several months in the past. the troop losses due to the German E-boat attack was declared “secret” when it happened because to announce it publicly would have told the Germans that the time of the Allied invasion was near.

Here is “Operation Tiger” FAQ from the Naval Historical Center website: http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq20-1.htm

Also, the official history of the US Army of D-Day, “Cross-Channel Attack” covers Exercise Tiger on pages 269 and 270. That volume was published in 1951, 7 years after Exercise Tiger, thus hardly a long time cover up. You can access the entire volume at the CMH website: http://www.history.army.mil/html/books/007/7-4-1/index.html

Additionally all of the US Army Offical History of World War II are available on the CMH website free of charge in pdf and html format.


39 posted on 02/10/2012 6:09:49 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: naturalman1975

Not to be rude - but I think I wil lhave to be -

If US woman is in Saudi Arabia - is she not also required to function by the rules of Suadi society? Scarf, not driving etc - I am fairly sure this continues - even now -

Can you link to battalions of women machine gunning their officers? How about - just some lone pistol shots? One sniper?

Sometimes - life sucks. But - the response is rare that “life sucks - so I went on a shooting rampage”.


40 posted on 02/10/2012 6:14:57 PM PST by Eldon Tyrell (question,.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Your post is exactly what I love about freerepublic. Nice to see the unvarnished truth of how LBJ saw the world in that time


41 posted on 02/10/2012 6:16:31 PM PST by ghannonf18
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To: naturalman1975
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We had our own....Camp Logan (Houston, TX) in 1917.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Riot_(1917)

Very interesting for those who were not aware.

42 posted on 02/10/2012 6:18:41 PM PST by jmax
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All contributions are for the Current Quarter Expenses.


43 posted on 02/10/2012 6:24:34 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I thought Truman desegregated the military


44 posted on 02/10/2012 6:28:40 PM PST by goat granny
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To: All

On a side note, what ever happened to that soldier who fragged the tent at the beginning of the Iraq invasion?


45 posted on 02/10/2012 6:31:35 PM PST by gunner03
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To: self
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me = DUH !!!!!!!

Link to Wikipedia

46 posted on 02/10/2012 6:33:59 PM PST by jmax
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“They try to suggest that Pvt. Slovik was the only one, but this is not the case.”

Slovik was supposedly the only soldier executed for desertion, but many were executed for murder, rape, etc. [Don’t ask what the ‘etc.’ includes, I’m just covering the bases.]


47 posted on 02/10/2012 6:34:33 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: goat granny
I thought Truman desegregated the military

He signed the order in 1948, but in a large organisation such reorganisation takes time. It wasn't until 1954 that the process was completed.

48 posted on 02/10/2012 6:38:09 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

30,000 rounds and they didn’t hit anyone? The movie won’t be called THE TUSKEGEE MARKSMEN.


49 posted on 02/10/2012 6:38:35 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: fso301

“...expended 30,000 rounds of machine gun ammo. Luckily no one was hurt but they were after the white officers.”

Agreed on the lucky no one got hurt. But talk about needing more range time!


50 posted on 02/10/2012 6:38:57 PM PST by 21twelve
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