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To: VA Voter

Very interesting, and maybe a harbinger for economic disaster indeed. However, I would suspect that July driving is ALWAYS much higher than November in normal times. Vacations, more later in the day activites, etc.

However, something to look at for sure.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 10:57:03 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

A better question along the same lines is why did all global commodities soar and stay up there?

I believe it is the Obama risk factor.

Everyone has discounted and moving to their expectations of a lousy presidency.


11 posted on 02/10/2012 11:06:37 AM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
However, I would suspect that July driving is ALWAYS much higher than November in normal times. Vacations, more later in the day activites, etc.

Yep, if you look at a chart of several years of US gasoline consumption, you get a distinct annual peak-and-valley look, with the peak in summer and the valley in winer, and the oddball being the massive dropoff due to $4+/gallon gas in 2008.

This analysis would have a lot more meaning if it compared December 2010 to December 2011. But in Googling the basic concept, you can see that December 2011 gasoline consumption was the lowest in 15 years, so something is afoot. But this story gives us no working idea of the scope of such.

12 posted on 02/10/2012 11:07:21 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Here are the numbers (from the EIA):

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
1983 46,218.3 48,906.1 54,111.7 49,093.7 52,021.3 52,517.2 51,898.0 51,905.6 52,676.3 50,724.3 51,150.8 51,879.1
1984 54,148.6 55,651.7 57,636.0 56,937.0 58,755.9 60,075.0 59,055.7 59,378.3 56,947.3 57,386.5 58,075.3 56,765.8
1985 54,584.3 53,829.7 57,297.6 59,075.2 57,563.7 58,832.1 58,563.3 58,096.1 56,979.0 56,949.0 58,100.7 60,295.9
1986 55,283.0 58,546.4 61,250.4 62,628.9 65,578.7 63,294.1 62,861.8 61,342.4 60,341.9 60,946.1 61,880.4 62,290.2
1987 56,488.6 60,641.1 61,627.2 61,733.5 61,750.0 64,315.2 62,404.8 62,643.9 59,339.3 60,707.9 58,877.0 61,720.2
1988 57,041.0 59,900.3 61,577.5 61,584.1 60,701.3 62,884.1 61,873.2 62,450.0 61,036.1 60,385.3 59,783.1 63,099.8
1989 55,556.8 58,492.6 60,500.1 60,242.0 62,088.7 63,521.0 62,335.0 63,362.0 61,922.8 61,973.6 61,339.0 63,182.4
1990 58,138.0 57,909.4 59,847.0 59,600.5 60,572.2 63,108.6 61,531.0 63,182.0 60,912.1 60,295.1 60,550.6 58,382.1
1991 56,924.5 59,384.5 61,553.8 61,982.0 62,244.9 63,319.4 62,600.6 62,534.0 60,346.2 61,181.3 60,442.9 61,521.7
1992 56,410.9 58,308.6 59,639.5 59,980.2 59,615.2 60,353.3 60,400.3 59,083.7 58,579.1 59,011.8 56,877.6 59,287.9
1993 53,826.6 57,305.3 57,624.8 58,138.7 57,465.8 60,391.1 58,807.7 58,453.0 57,462.3 55,432.4 55,743.5 56,074.7
1994 51,533.7 54,270.1 55,363.8 54,962.1 55,523.0 57,165.3 55,834.5 56,393.4 54,992.9 54,240.5 54,480.4 55,612.3
1995 51,200.2 54,138.2 55,592.4 55,456.8 56,242.2 58,547.4 56,944.0 58,296.8 56,580.9 55,610.5 55,907.4 56,471.5
1996 53,039.9 54,566.8 56,388.2 57,183.4 57,796.4 59,170.9 58,909.8 59,651.5 57,845.3 58,456.2 58,101.4 59,200.7
1997 54,440.6 57,313.3 58,443.8 58,854.0 57,840.1 59,820.3 65,294.2 64,803.7 63,680.2 64,355.2 62,252.8 66,017.1
1998 59,905.7 62,399.8 64,533.5 59,012.3 59,509.7 60,837.0 67,183.3 66,831.0 65,146.9 65,121.8 63,846.8 65,401.5
1999 60,254.0 62,779.7 63,320.2 63,722.4 63,464.7 64,458.4 62,669.7 61,363.0 59,265.4 60,415.4 59,078.1 62,719.0
2000 54,421.0 59,107.2 60,573.0 57,911.6 60,300.4 63,275.5 62,278.2 63,621.8 63,098.0 61,954.7 62,184.7 62,014.2
2001 58,139.5 61,731.0 62,859.5 62,301.3 62,878.9 65,417.0 62,534.2 64,390.5 62,214.2 60,864.4 60,024.8 60,793.5
2002 60,211.7 63,942.2 62,828.5 63,953.3 64,537.0 64,874.0 64,594.2 66,683.5 62,352.4 63,344.8 63,255.8 63,109.4
2003 60,247.9 60,803.4 60,815.8 61,728.4 66,315.5 66,426.5 66,803.1 66,812.7 63,949.0 64,615.5 63,778.4 63,394.5
2004 57,143.8 58,381.7 59,186.2 59,352.6 58,565.7 58,992.8 59,012.0 59,664.1 57,327.4 57,977.1 57,017.9 58,013.6
2005 54,938.7 58,368.8 58,330.0 59,093.3 59,474.5 61,731.9 61,109.4 61,220.9 57,866.5 57,075.2 59,094.7 59,426.1
2006 56,531.8 59,960.4 59,859.7 61,020.8 60,234.0 61,980.4 61,445.8 62,015.9 59,783.4 60,233.2 58,860.2 57,862.5
2007 54,698.1 56,954.9 57,278.7 57,354.7 58,719.6 60,865.7 58,806.7 60,178.5 57,912.9 57,843.2 56,579.0 54,650.0
2008 53,994.1 56,157.4 55,494.8 56,307.4 56,390.6 55,938.5 54,802.5 55,628.2 53,405.9 55,210.7 54,080.6 53,931.5
2009 51,108.7 50,968.4 51,298.4 51,215.6 50,957.0 50,419.6 49,677.9 49,966.5 48,669.6 48,461.0 47,454.3 47,441.4
2010 44,012.3 44,227.1 45,482.4 46,234.2 46,016.2 46,765.3 45,755.3 45,082.6 43,876.0 43,624.1 42,857.0 42,417.1
2011 40,331.0 40,924.9 41,608.1 41,555.0 41,172.9 42,477.2 42,448.3 42,351.8 41,972.6 32,015.0 30,934.0

It's clear demand has been dropping off since the middle of 2009. But I wonder if the sharp drop in October and November is not simply a data problem — reports not all in — that isn't real and will get revised upward.

46 posted on 02/10/2012 12:47:11 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Look at the figures year over year, November to November.

The idea that people curtail discretionary driving as an austerity measure should not be surprising. The media has sold Americans on the belief that we have a "love affair with the auto," implying that demand is inelastic. Obviously, except for adolescent nuts, that is bullshit. As people mature, driving becomes less an adventure, or leisure time activity, and more a time-consuming necessity.

I have been cutting down for years on driving so I can have more time(and money) to do other, more interesting things. I suspect I'm not alone.

60 posted on 02/10/2012 4:41:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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