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1994 Report: Santorum supported individual mandate [rubbish!]
Washington Examiner ^ | 01/27/2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 01/27/2012 4:52:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Rick Santorum supported the idea of "requir[ing] individuals to buy health insurance" when he ran for U.S. Senate in 1994, according to a local feature article comparing the candidates during that election cycle.

"Santorum and [his opponent] would require individuals to buy health insurance rather than forcing employers to pay for employee benefits," The Morning Call (Pa.) reported in 1994. The Morning Call noted that Santorum had also called for a MediSave account and had opposed so-called "sin" taxes.

If true, the distinction between requiring people to buy health insurance and an individual mandate might be lost on the voters who have heard Santorum excoriate Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich for their support of the individual mandate -- which, in Gingrich's case, dates back to the early 90s.

The Morning Call does not quote Santorum making comments supportive of an individual mandate, or quote any other candidates in the piece, which attempts to summarize several candidates' positions on health care.


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KEYWORDS: healthcare; mandate; rinos; rinosantorum; santorum; santorum4mandates; santorum4romney; santroum4mandates
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1 posted on 01/27/2012 4:52:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

another hit piece

Santorums suggestion does not call for universal forcing on the population of govt insurance whose bureaucrats then control their life or death decisions on treatment with no appeal


2 posted on 01/27/2012 4:57:21 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

“and had opposed so-called “sin” taxes.”

well, that’s good. He’s not that Huckabeeish


3 posted on 01/27/2012 4:58:02 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA/PIPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I watched Santorum’s 1994 Senate campaign and his fearless and unapologetic destruction of Harris Wofford in the debates, and I do not remember him propsing an indivudual mandate.


4 posted on 01/27/2012 5:01:54 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t support an individual mandate, but they need to couple that stand with a Federal law that allows healthcare providers to refuse to treat someone if they don’t have the means to pay. Telling hospitals you have to treat anyone and pass the costs on to the rest of us is nuts.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 5:05:49 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: SeekAndFind
Team Romney is really good. Santorum scored last night and the next morning the hit pieces are out... I will give him credit for destroying his opposition. IF he gets the nomination he better show the same vigor on Obama.... if he doesn't, many former supporters of Perry, Cain and Newt will not vote for him.
7 posted on 01/27/2012 5:09:21 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: 11th Commandment

Romney is a snake, masquerading as a conservative. He would do more to destroy conservativism by winning than by losing. As President, he would be impotent, just as he was as governor of Massachusetts. The public will confuse Romney with being a conservative and move away from the idea of conservatism without realizing that Romney is a fraud.

This Newt supporter will not vote for Romney—period.


8 posted on 01/27/2012 5:25:56 AM PST by CASchack
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To: SeekAndFind

Mitt Romney supported the idea of “requiring individuals to buy health insurance” while he is running for the GOP nomination in 2011, according to Mitt Romney.


9 posted on 01/27/2012 6:01:13 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA/PIPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: ari-freedom

2012. It’s still the first month of the new year, you know.


10 posted on 01/27/2012 6:02:13 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA/PIPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: Daveinyork

http://articles.mcall.com/1994-05-02/news/2979474_1_cooper-grandy-health-reform-employees-premiums/2


11 posted on 01/27/2012 6:05:22 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: SeekAndFind
No proof.

Willard's opposition research hacks are back at it today.

12 posted on 01/27/2012 6:08:39 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind
"Santorum and [his opponent] would require individuals to buy health insurance rather than forcing employers to pay for employee benefits,"

Tricky word "require". Does it mean by force or by necessity, and no way to tell from this context. I bet the original journalist-idiot didn't care, and just spat their 1500 words out that day. Santorum probably meant by necessity, since he seems to at least be honest about rights. (Yes, I liked his Why and How lesson last night, and prefer him, but I'll happily vote for Newt (and Rubio VP???) if Santorum does not succeed.

13 posted on 01/27/2012 6:09:45 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: SeekAndFind
Just another garbage piece by the Romney forces.

EVERY congressional Republican--EVERYONE OF THEM--supported the individual mandate as set out by the Heritage Foundation's proposal back in 1994, because that was the Republican strategy for opposing Hilarycare.

Once cooler heads prevailed, and Hilarycare had been defeated, most of them backed away from the concept.

Romney was an advocate of the mandate back then and still is. End of story.

Santorum ROCKED last night. By far it was his best night, and he clearly won the overall debate.
14 posted on 01/27/2012 6:17:49 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: 11th Commandment

Romney will do anything, say anything to get what he wants. It’s all about money and power. Not any different than BO and the American sheeple are following along yet again.


15 posted on 01/27/2012 6:21:39 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Daveinyork

Because he did not

Another hit piece on Santorum


16 posted on 01/27/2012 6:25:37 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Abby4116
Santorum and [his opponent] would require individuals to buy health insurance rather than forcing employers to pay for employee benefits,"

Top of page two on the web page. The Romnbots probably had woodies all night after finding that.

17 posted on 01/27/2012 6:25:57 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Sudetenland
EVERY congressional Republican--EVERYONE OF THEM--supported the individual mandate as set out by the Heritage Foundation's proposal back in 1994, because that was the Republican strategy for opposing Hilarycare.

That is why the left adopted the phrase "individual mandate" to describe their plans after that. It was a means to adopt the right's language, but distort it into redistribution.

18 posted on 01/27/2012 6:27:20 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: SeekAndFind

The concept of an insurance mandate has a conservative pedigree, so its not really surprising that Rick Santorum expressed support for it at some time.


19 posted on 01/27/2012 6:33:47 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: 11th Commandment

That makes him less likeable in my opinion, if that’s even possible. Of course, the media outlets doing Mitt’s bidding right now are the same ones that will be targeting him once he’s the nominee.


20 posted on 01/27/2012 6:38:27 AM PST by RIRed
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt and Rick might have talked support, but they never went as far as signing something into law.


21 posted on 01/27/2012 6:42:31 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Mitt Romney, a piss poor choice)
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To: silverleaf; P-Marlowe; wmfights; onyx; betty boop; Jim Robinson
according to a local feature article comparing the candidates during that election cycle. "Santorum and [his opponent] would require individuals to buy health insurance rather than forcing employers to pay for employee benefits,"

What's sad about this article is two-fold. First, it reports zero quotes from Santorum. It is purely some local reporter's take on what was meant in a debate. It also sounds like the debate really is over "forcing" an employer to pay for benefits. There is no logical reason why an employer should have to do anything for any employee other than give a wage.

And if in 1994 you said, "Let's force employers to buy health insurance.", I can see me saying "Let them buy their own health insurance."

And I can then see a reporter either distorting or misunderstanding that or just being a sloppy writer and saying that Santorum wants to require individuals buying their own health insurance.

The second reason this is sad is that someone stayed up all night searching lexus to come up with this.

I suspect the Romney campaign which was taken to the cleaners yesterday by Rick Santorum.

Romney is evil.

22 posted on 01/27/2012 6:42:31 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Big deal. I once believed in the universal mandate, too. I was wrong. People change their minds and if they remain consistent in their new views, then they are worth listening to.

I don't particularly like Santorum, but I'm sick of the cheap shots being taken at all the candidates. And that includes Newt and Mitt.

23 posted on 01/27/2012 6:47:32 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m starting to get a serious case of “Romney derangement syndrome”.


24 posted on 01/27/2012 6:50:07 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: SeekAndFind

So, there is only one Republican Pres candidate left who has never supported a individual mandate. And he is considered the ‘RINO’? Interesting.


25 posted on 01/27/2012 6:50:50 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: silverleaf

The GOP Establishment and MSM were willing to let Santorum off easy as long as he was not getting much traction. But last night, Santorum bloodied up Mitt pretty well, so now they’re going to make him pay.


26 posted on 01/27/2012 6:56:37 AM PST by kevao
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe that the plan for mandatory insurance included a tax break of some kind. I forget the details, but the plan would have reduced the cost of insurance by allowing policies to be sold across state lines and putting more people into the pool, while maintaining a private system.

It’s not the same thing as Obamneycare, at all.

Rick Santorum will be able to handle this. I think that I will make another donation to the Santorum campaign today. He might have to make an ad to answer this false attack.


27 posted on 01/27/2012 7:03:39 AM PST by Eva
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To: SeekAndFind

Well Rick must have done good last night. The RINOCRATS are well on their way towards nominating yet another liberal.

Let me know if that turns out any differently than it did last time.


28 posted on 01/27/2012 7:26:12 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The headline does not match the content of the article. Santorum’s remarks in this article have nothing to do with an ‘individual mandate’ - it is a discussion on the employer-based insurance system.

If he did support an individual mandate in 1994, what is in this article is not evidence of that.


29 posted on 01/27/2012 7:27:28 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, and there’s a more recent video of Newt on a loveseat with Pelosi telling us we need more taxes to stop Global Warming.

What’s your point?


30 posted on 01/27/2012 7:27:36 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: All; silverleaf
Santorums suggestion does not call for universal forcing on the population of govt insurance whose bureaucrats then control their life or death decisions on treatment with no appeal

Nice try. /s Sanctimonious Santorum is a hypocrite. This is the position he attacks Newt for having held.

31 posted on 01/27/2012 7:35:34 AM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path.)
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To: mac_truck

And that my friend is the dirty little secret nobody wants to know. The individual mandate was an idea that came from our side. Everybody, except Ron Paul, in the race was for an individual mandate back in the 90’s. It was their answer to Hillarycare.


32 posted on 01/27/2012 7:52:14 AM PST by gusty
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To: Wolfie
a Federal law that allows healthcare providers to refuse to treat someone if they don’t have the means to pay.

I don't think that's ever going to happen. And I suspect that Newt thinks the same, which is why he came up with the "insurance, or post a bond" idea. Which is not a bad idea IMO.

33 posted on 01/27/2012 7:54:04 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: silverleaf

I agree.. i think this originated or was resurrected by a RonPaulBot list on Santorum. No direct quote from Santorum. no dice.


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35 posted on 01/27/2012 8:15:40 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind

Why don’t we get a reporter to ask each republican candidate if they support an “individual mandate”....so we can be done with this issue?

Reporter: “If you are elected, would you support individual mandate for healthcare?”

Gingrich: No
Romney: No
Santorum: No
Paul: No

...and move on to other issues.


36 posted on 01/27/2012 8:16:18 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

RE: Romney: No

Romney: No ( except for Massachusetts, in which case it is a resounding YES ).


37 posted on 01/27/2012 8:18:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: newzjunkey
Sanctimonious Santorum is a hypocrite. This is the position he attacks Newt for having held.

No it is not - at least if all we are going by is this article. A discussion over employer based health insurance is not even the same issue.

38 posted on 01/27/2012 8:27:31 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Wolfie

You bring up a concern but I’d like to expand on your assertion.

The concept of forcing hospitals to service everyone who comes in their door has been abused and the costs of these services is, as you state, passed on to those of us who pay, either as individuals or via our health insurance.

But we CANNOT have emergencies turned away at the hospital door, we simply can’t. First, we are a decent society. We don’t just shutter doors on those bleeding to death for their lack of ability to pay. Second, I can see the sound and sight bytes now...”Because of the Republican elimination of the requirement for hospitals to treat emergencies, little Johnny died from a severe asthma attack which left him unable to breathe.”

HOWEVER, it’s like anything else with liberals...give ‘em an inch, they take a mile. So you get emergency rooms filled with illegal immigrant families all waiting to get family practitioner care in the hospital emergency room.

THAT’s what happens when there are no limits.

It’s a problem but there’s no elected Repub who’ll ever take it on.


39 posted on 01/27/2012 8:35:30 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: mac_truck
“The concept of an insurance mandate has a conservative pedigree, so its not really surprising that Rick Santorum expressed support for it at some time.”

Yes, I recall that the Heritage Foundation proposed a plan that included an individual mandate, as well as reforms that allowed purchases across state lines, but the insurers were still private.

40 posted on 01/27/2012 8:46:51 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: SeekAndFind

No, i mean have him answer now as part of their policy and as a requirement for being nominee. Put him on the spot. Then he can’t go back.

I think many of these candidates of done things in the past that they probably wouldn’t do now. have them commit to it.


41 posted on 01/27/2012 8:48:33 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Dude, i just want Obama out. I get a headache thinking about it.


42 posted on 01/27/2012 8:49:48 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: SeekAndFind
The Morning Call does not quote Santorum making comments supportive of an individual mandate...

Of course it doesn't. It didn't happen. If no one is familiar with my hometown paper, The Morning Call is a Leftist rag that goes out of its way to try and screw Republicans. The lack of supporting quotes of Santorum pushing mandates is not surprising. In 94' people were upset with Hitlery care and TMC trying to tie Rick to it to muddy the waters and make that loser opponent of his back then Wofford look good is standard operating procedure for them. This whole story coming out today after last nights debate has Mittens fingerprints all over it.

43 posted on 01/27/2012 8:52:29 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the reporter’s interpretation, not a quotation. I trust his interpretation as much as I trust his knowledge of firearms.


44 posted on 01/27/2012 8:56:36 AM PST by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: SeekAndFind

as much as I want to stop Mittens

I don’t have the stomach for eviscerating Santorum

he just needs to bow out and let’s drive a stake thru the heart of the GOP establishment machine and the sorry assed psuedoconservative talkies and pundits

were he in Newt’s place and the positions reversed I’d be on his side

he is not a bad man, just in the wrong place

we have got to teach these bastardes who think they are our conservative leaders a lesson


45 posted on 01/27/2012 8:58:28 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: PolarCat
“I have never understood the “individual mandate” gambit. If we want everyone to have healthcare just expand medicare to include everyone. Then the funding comes from taxation. We just expand a program that’s already up and running.

I’m not in favor of universal government healthcare, but if we were to do it, why not do it the simple way?”

An individual mandate and universal government healthcare are two different things. But, yes, if you favor the latter then expanding the Medicare program would be the simplest approach. And that would very rapidly either bankrupt us or drive down dramatically the average quality of care.

46 posted on 01/27/2012 9:00:12 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: SeekAndFind

I do believe there is a difference between an individual mandate at the state and federal levels.

If you don’t like the laws in your state, you can move to always move to another state.

Romney is a liar because he campaigned in 2007/08 on an individual mandate on the federal level. He basically wanted to implement Romneycare nationwide at that time. Now he pretends as if he is a big 10th Amendment guy.


47 posted on 01/27/2012 9:25:46 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

That’s like saying abortion or gun control is fine at the state level, just not at the federal level. You either have principles or you don’t. Note that we’re not talking about whether it’s constitutional or not, but whether it’s right and has more benefits than costs to the people. Not to mention the argument that “you can just move to another state” can be applied on the federal level. “You can just move to another country” if you don’t like it. That argument wouldn’t pass muster on the school playground.

If you think the mandate is good at the state level, make the argument as to why it has more costs and benefits to the people. The discussion needs to go beyond whether it’s constitutional or not, but whether it’s actually good policy.


48 posted on 01/27/2012 9:34:56 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: JediJones

I am 1000% opposed to a federal mandate. I think it is wrong and oppressive. But I don’t think it is unconstitutional AT THE STATE LEVEL.

Under the Constitution, the states are generally free to conduct their own affairs along Constitutional lines. Gun control is unconstitutional. Abortion is not mentioned in the Constitution, though it is hard to imagine that the Founders would approve of it.

Some states have better laws than others. The beauty of living in the USA is that we are free to live in whichever state we choose and still enjoy the benefits of living in America.

When things are done at the Federal level, we have no such option. The Federal mandate is unconstitutional. The state mandate, while shitty, is Massachusetts problem. The people of that state can vote it out if they don’t like it, or move.

Hope that clarifies my point.


49 posted on 01/27/2012 9:44:24 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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