Skip to comments.Tennessee speed guns: Payback vow on NYers for 9/11 Memorial bust
Posted on 01/20/2012 11:41:44 AM PST by Pharmboy
Gun nuts in the Tennessee state legislature have declared civil war on New Yorkers saying they will retaliate for the prosecution of a woman who was carrying an illegal pistol at the 9/11 Memorial. A resolution winding its way through the Tennessee legislature warns New Yorkers not to drive through their state because the Highway Patrol is gunning for us. A Knoxville-based legislator, who moonlights as a farmer, is so angry over the Tennessee tourists gun arrest last month that his resolution condemns it as a grave miscarriage of justice and reminds New Yorkers to drive carefully if we come visit.
We remind the citizens of New York, especially those residing in New York City, to drive carefully through the great state of Tennessee, paying extra attention to our speed limits, reads House Resolution 585, which urges charges be dropped against Meredith Graves. A registered nurse and fourth-year medical student, Graves was arrested when she tried to check her Tennessee-registered weapon at the 9/11 Memorial in December. Its illegal to carry the weapon in this state. Graves faces a mandatory minimum prison sentence of 3 1/2 years if convicted of felony weapons possession; prosecutors have not said if they will seek an indictment on that or on a lesser charge.
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It’s not silly at all. What goes around comes around
Good for Tennessee! And who said the South would never rise again?
Oh...I think the retaliation is a good thing, but looking for NY plates on the interstate? I dunno...seems a bit out there. But as I said above, it’s a good idea to bring attention to the issue.
It’s a fine way to make New Yorkers understand that the rest of the country won’t kiss their a$$es anymore.
“Its illegal to carry the weapon in this state. “ - I’m fairly certain this is a false statement that the media just wishes were true. I believe that if you grease the correct palms or bust your ass to jump through all the hoops that NY does indeed issue concealed carry permits - any NYers want to confirm?
I think its a good idea. They should give them a $10,000 speeding ticket and two-months in jail for driving 5-10 mph over the speed limit. Screw Bloomberg!
Oh, there are much more effective forms of retaliation. For example, refuse to give “full faith and credit” to NY drivers licenses. What, that’s unconstitutional? Well, NY is failing to give “full faith and credit” to Tennessee concealed carry permits. I don’t see a difference, except that driving is not a Constitutionally protected RIGHT.
That said, this isn’t a bad start.
The 2nd amendment gives this young lady the right to possess a gun.
Having lived upstate NY for 8 years and in NYC for 27 (and had a legal carry permit in NYC for 19 years) I can speak to this. NY State—other than NYC—is not really bad as far as guns go. The judges issue pistol permits to non-NYC resisents all the time. It’s NYC that’s bad, ad even when you cannot carry in NYC ( I am a physician so I could get one) a premises permit for a handgun is not hard to get. Long guns are no problem anywhere.
I’m from NY State - and I encourage TN to go as far as they can with this!
And your logic is flawed regarding drawing attention to crazy gun laws. Progressives and gun-grabbers will use this problem to demand more uniform and consistant gun laws, ie...more laws.
Interesting backstory on this...thanks.
They do but only the politically connected gan get one. The slaves cannot.
I am sort of floored by the idea of a “3rd yr med student” showing up in Manhatten, and asking where to check he gun at the 9/11 memorial.
One of these facts is not like the others.
The DA might want to consider dropping the charges...
Sad to see the NY Post talking about “gun nuts.” They used to be more sensible.
That said, Tennessee should arrest a hundred New Yorkers, charge them with felony obnoxiousness, threaten them with mandatory thousand-year sentences, then offer to trade them for the Tennessee woman.
As a licensed FFL holder I can confirm.
I’ve seen NYC CCW’s, held by folk working in some level of NYC Gov, or closely related to such.
For example, one guy said it was no problem for him, his brother is an NYC judge.
Similar to some counties in Kalifornia.
I’ve been told that mobsters have no real problem getting permits either.
They have plenty of money and lawyers to deal with the process.
It’s not what the law says that counts, it’s who you know, or can pay off!
Note to TN: Be my guest, but don’t take it out on Upstate. NYC doesn’t speak for us.
>>Oh...I think the retaliation is a good thing, but looking for NY plates on the interstate? I dunno...seems a bit out there.
In Memphis, it is illegal for a woman to drive a vehicle without a man walking or running in front waving a big red flag to warn other motorists that a woman is driving. That seems like it would be fairly easy to enforce against New Yorkers. At least easier to enforce than the prohibition against lassoing fish.
Police in Norfolk, VA arrested a guy for open carrying in the city. The case went to the VA Supreme Court. The court stated that VA law permits open carry and the city cannot have an ordinance that goes against state law.
How can NYC have laws that trump state law?
Oh, I forget, it’s NYC.
How many New Yorkers winter in Florida & summer in New York?
How many of those people drive back & forth???
One State cannot grant to its own citizens privileges and immunities not granted to the citizens of the other 49 States.
This would also cover a “New York City? Get a rope!” kind of law. (with a nod to Pace Pecante Sauce and their decades old advertising campaign)
This is silly. What kind of responsible gunowner checks their gun anywhere? We suspect this was a set-up, to drum up publicity for this woman.
But is that true for all of New York State or just NYC. I have always thought that certain areas of the state actually upheld the 2A.
This is crazy talk. If you find Bloomberg or Schumer
tooling along in TN I’m fine with making them uncomfortable.
But the average Joe with New Yaawk plates? Enough tourists
get sheared like that as it is..
So according to the NY Post and the article’s author, someone that supports and exercises their God given and Constitutionally protected rights is a “gun nut?”
How many of those people drive back & forth???
Lots of 'em, but not usually through Tennessee. It's a bit out of the way.
A better question would be how can any state laws trump the Constitution?
LOL ! Kind of funny, I had to send $140 to Millersville, TN for speeding 81/70 and I was about 8 miles from the KY border earlier this month !
A new kind of revolution? Once states begin to punish the residents of states that impose sanctions may just work. Those residents need to understand that not standing in opposition to what their legislators are doing may have consequences.
But Tennessee would be WAY out of the way...
Uh-oh...but, they let me check my piece in a gun locker that the FBI agents used.
No it doesn't.
She has that right even without the 2nd amendment.
The amendment merely protects that right.
“A Knoxville-based legislator, who moonlights as a farmer,... “
Ha. Those Tennessee hicks don’t even have professional full-time politicians. /sarcasm
this may be a good chance to fight for “shall not be infringed” in court.
if i were tennessee, i’d take a stand all the way to the SCOTUS.
“A new kind of revolution? Once states begin to punish the residents of states that impose sanctions may just work. Those residents need to understand that not standing in opposition to what their legislators are doing may have consequences.”
That is how other states got Kansas to allow non-resident deer hunting. Some states passed laws that they would sell non-resident tags to any residents of states that also sell non-res tags. At the time, KS was the only holdout, and their residents complained.
WTF? How exactly is a physician entitled to carry when a salesman or bakery chef or UNIX engineer is not?
You can rest your case. I concede.
I made house calls and physicians like myself carried drugs and cash and were targeted with phony calls.
I do not know the law in Tennessee, but in Arizona, public buildings that are posted against weapons have to have lockers for people to check their weapons in. I have done it many dozens of times at the library, courthouse, DMV, Recorders office, etc.
It makes more sense than leaving your weapon in a vehicle to be stolen.
“...No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States:”
Looks like a civil rights case to me.
Archy, isn’t there a law with severe penalties for infringing on civil rights under the color of law?
If I were writing that story I would have said he was a farmer who moonlights as a legislator...
What the heck are you talking about? Why would she be looking for publicity? She got a lot of undesired publicity and she might be looking at a fairly long sentence in jail!
Who said they did? The last time I got pulled over by a trooper in WVa I was driving a RED rental car with New Jersey plates. I was doing 79 in an 70 mph zone. Until the trooper saw I had a PA driver’s license, he was strickly prefessional as in, Oh boy, oh boy, I’m going to give this man a ticket There was a definite change in demeanor when he saw that license.
If I had a NJ or NY drivers license, I’d have gotten a ticket.
The thing is that while you’re upset with the likes of Bloomberg and Schemer other people are more upset with the New Yorkers who keep voting these vermin into office.
And don’t forget that Bloomberg has been endlessly trying to usurp the gun rights of people in other states so it’s only fair that New Yorkers are held to account for the tyranny they vote for.
“The 2nd amendment gives this young lady the right to possess a gun.”
Forgive the semantic correction, but it is important. The Constitution does not give anyone any rights and to say that is a very dangerous thing, indeed. Because if you say the Constitution ‘gives’ a right then it can be amended to take away that right, too.
The Constitution enumerates rights that are inherent in men courtesy of their Creator. It makes clear that government ‘shall not’ infringe on those God given rights.
But nowhere in the Constitution does it say that my rights come from a mere document.