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Tennessee speed guns: Payback vow on NYers for 9/11 Memorial bust
NY Post ^ | January 20, 2012 | LAURA ITALIANO

Posted on 01/20/2012 11:41:44 AM PST by Pharmboy

Gun nuts in the Tennessee state legislature have declared civil war on New Yorkers — saying they will retaliate for the prosecution of a woman who was carrying an illegal pistol at the 9/11 Memorial. A resolution winding its way through the Tennessee legislature warns New Yorkers not to drive through their state — because the Highway Patrol is “gunning” for us. A Knoxville-based legislator, who moonlights as a farmer, is so angry over the Tennessee tourist’s gun arrest last month that his resolution condemns it as a “grave miscarriage of justice” — and reminds New Yorkers to “drive carefully” if we come visit.

“We remind the citizens of New York, especially those residing in New York City, to drive carefully through the great state of Tennessee, paying extra attention to our speed limits,” reads House Resolution 585, which urges charges be dropped against Meredith Graves. A registered nurse and fourth-year medical student, Graves was arrested when she tried to check her Tennessee-registered weapon at the 9/11 Memorial in December. It’s illegal to carry the weapon in this state. Graves faces a mandatory minimum prison sentence of 3 1/2 years if convicted of felony weapons possession; prosecutors have not said if they will seek an indictment on that or on a lesser charge.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; US: New York; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; boycottnyc; donttreadonme; guns; laws; nyc; nycsucks; nyctyranny; secondamendment; waronbloomberg
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Even though this is silly, any way to bring attention and heat on NYC for its crazy gun laws is a good thing.
1 posted on 01/20/2012 11:41:58 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

It’s not silly at all. What goes around comes around


2 posted on 01/20/2012 11:46:23 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Pharmboy

Good for Tennessee! And who said the South would never rise again?


3 posted on 01/20/2012 11:46:40 AM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: paul51

Oh...I think the retaliation is a good thing, but looking for NY plates on the interstate? I dunno...seems a bit out there. But as I said above, it’s a good idea to bring attention to the issue.


4 posted on 01/20/2012 11:49:44 AM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...but I got better.)
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To: Pharmboy

It’s a fine way to make New Yorkers understand that the rest of the country won’t kiss their a$$es anymore.


5 posted on 01/20/2012 11:51:02 AM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Pharmboy

“It’s illegal to carry the weapon in this state. “ - I’m fairly certain this is a false statement that the media just wishes were true. I believe that if you grease the correct palms or bust your ass to jump through all the hoops that NY does indeed issue concealed carry permits - any NYers want to confirm?


6 posted on 01/20/2012 11:51:59 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Pharmboy

I think its a good idea. They should give them a $10,000 speeding ticket and two-months in jail for driving 5-10 mph over the speed limit. Screw Bloomberg!


7 posted on 01/20/2012 11:54:07 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Boroach Obuggery must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Pharmboy

Oh, there are much more effective forms of retaliation. For example, refuse to give “full faith and credit” to NY drivers licenses. What, that’s unconstitutional? Well, NY is failing to give “full faith and credit” to Tennessee concealed carry permits. I don’t see a difference, except that driving is not a Constitutionally protected RIGHT.

That said, this isn’t a bad start.


8 posted on 01/20/2012 11:54:45 AM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Pharmboy
Tennessee Democrats tried some shenanigans against some Mississippi CCW permit holders and the Mississippi Troopers retaliated. When Tennesseans that had run into the mess here in Mississippi started calling their state representatives because of this, Tennessee Democrats changed their tunes and Tennessee recognizes the Mississippi CCW permits now. Maybe the Tennessee Democrats learned a lesson that they are turning on New York now. NYC is part of NY unfortunately.
9 posted on 01/20/2012 11:58:15 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Pharmboy

The 2nd amendment gives this young lady the right to possess a gun.


10 posted on 01/20/2012 11:59:54 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: reed13k

Having lived upstate NY for 8 years and in NYC for 27 (and had a legal carry permit in NYC for 19 years) I can speak to this. NY State—other than NYC—is not really bad as far as guns go. The judges issue pistol permits to non-NYC resisents all the time. It’s NYC that’s bad, ad even when you cannot carry in NYC ( I am a physician so I could get one) a premises permit for a handgun is not hard to get. Long guns are no problem anywhere.


11 posted on 01/20/2012 12:00:05 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...but I got better.)
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To: Pharmboy

I’m from NY State - and I encourage TN to go as far as they can with this!


12 posted on 01/20/2012 12:00:35 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Pharmboy
Ridiculous legislative works supported in one region will have consequences when the inherent flaws are forced on those from outside. Most New Yorkers know to be dishonest enough to avoid having such rules enforced on them.

And your logic is flawed regarding drawing attention to crazy gun laws. Progressives and gun-grabbers will use this problem to demand more uniform and consistant gun laws, ie...more laws.

13 posted on 01/20/2012 12:00:50 PM PST by blackdog (And justice for all.....(Offer not valid in all locations, and prices vary))
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To: vetvetdoug

Interesting backstory on this...thanks.


14 posted on 01/20/2012 12:02:17 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...but I got better.)
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To: reed13k

They do but only the politically connected gan get one. The slaves cannot.


15 posted on 01/20/2012 12:04:30 PM PST by sport
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To: Pharmboy

I am sort of floored by the idea of a “3rd yr med student” showing up in Manhatten, and asking where to check he gun at the 9/11 memorial.

One of these facts is not like the others.


16 posted on 01/20/2012 12:04:30 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Pharmboy

The DA might want to consider dropping the charges...


17 posted on 01/20/2012 12:06:26 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Pharmboy

“Gun nuts”

Sad to see the NY Post talking about “gun nuts.” They used to be more sensible.

That said, Tennessee should arrest a hundred New Yorkers, charge them with felony obnoxiousness, threaten them with mandatory thousand-year sentences, then offer to trade them for the Tennessee woman.

FUNY.

FU leftards.


18 posted on 01/20/2012 12:07:59 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: reed13k

As a licensed FFL holder I can confirm.

I’ve seen NYC CCW’s, held by folk working in some level of NYC Gov, or closely related to such.

For example, one guy said it was no problem for him, his brother is an NYC judge.
Similar to some counties in Kalifornia.

I’ve been told that mobsters have no real problem getting permits either.
They have plenty of money and lawyers to deal with the process.

It’s not what the law says that counts, it’s who you know, or can pay off!


19 posted on 01/20/2012 12:08:00 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: Pharmboy

Note to TN: Be my guest, but don’t take it out on Upstate. NYC doesn’t speak for us.


20 posted on 01/20/2012 12:15:06 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Pharmboy

>>Oh...I think the retaliation is a good thing, but looking for NY plates on the interstate? I dunno...seems a bit out there.

In Memphis, it is illegal for a woman to drive a vehicle without a man walking or running in front waving a big red flag to warn other motorists that a woman is driving. That seems like it would be fairly easy to enforce against New Yorkers. At least easier to enforce than the prohibition against lassoing fish.


21 posted on 01/20/2012 12:15:18 PM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: Pharmboy

Police in Norfolk, VA arrested a guy for open carrying in the city. The case went to the VA Supreme Court. The court stated that VA law permits open carry and the city cannot have an ordinance that goes against state law.

How can NYC have laws that trump state law?

Oh, I forget, it’s NYC.


22 posted on 01/20/2012 12:15:30 PM PST by fredhead (Vegetarian - Old Indian word for poor hunter.)
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To: Pharmboy

How many New Yorkers winter in Florida & summer in New York?

How many of those people drive back & forth???


23 posted on 01/20/2012 12:16:36 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Pharmboy
A violation of the privileges and immunities clause of the U.S. Constitution if actually pursued legislatively.

One State cannot grant to its own citizens privileges and immunities not granted to the citizens of the other 49 States.

This would also cover a “New York City? Get a rope!” kind of law. (with a nod to Pace Pecante Sauce and their decades old advertising campaign)

24 posted on 01/20/2012 12:20:02 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Pharmboy

This is silly. What kind of responsible gunowner checks their gun anywhere? We suspect this was a set-up, to drum up publicity for this woman.


25 posted on 01/20/2012 12:20:13 PM PST by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: who knows what evil?
The DA might want to consider dropping the charges...

Especially since Mayor BloominIdiot has made public statements suggesting that Ms. Graves was in possession of cocaine, when in fact she was not. That alone taints jury pools and makes it nearly impossible for her to get a fair trial.

Not that Bloomberg gives a rat's ass about that, he is as much a sh*t filled dictator in NYC, as is the Kenyan Kid in Washington.
26 posted on 01/20/2012 12:22:20 PM PST by mkjessup (I support the *NEWTerizer* - the only candidate left who can and WILL Kick 0bama's AZZ!!)
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To: sport
They do but only the politically connected gan get one. The slaves cannot.

But is that true for all of New York State or just NYC. I have always thought that certain areas of the state actually upheld the 2A.

27 posted on 01/20/2012 12:29:42 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: MeganC

This is crazy talk. If you find Bloomberg or Schumer
tooling along in TN I’m fine with making them uncomfortable.

But the average Joe with New Yaawk plates? Enough tourists
get sheared like that as it is..


28 posted on 01/20/2012 12:30:24 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Pharmboy

So according to the NY Post and the article’s author, someone that supports and exercises their God given and Constitutionally protected rights is a “gun nut?”


29 posted on 01/20/2012 12:33:10 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: ridesthemiles
How many New Yorkers winter in Florida & summer in New York?

How many of those people drive back & forth???

Lots of 'em, but not usually through Tennessee. It's a bit out of the way.

30 posted on 01/20/2012 12:33:33 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: fredhead

A better question would be how can any state laws trump the Constitution?


31 posted on 01/20/2012 12:42:16 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: vikingd00d
In Memphis, it is illegal for a woman to drive a vehicle without a man walking or running in front waving. a big red flag to warn other motorists that a woman is driving.

Hey, this might be a good thing to enforce against UFOs, Whether or not UFOs are driven by male or female space aliens or demons.
32 posted on 01/20/2012 12:47:05 PM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine)
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To: Pharmboy

LOL ! Kind of funny, I had to send $140 to Millersville, TN for speeding 81/70 and I was about 8 miles from the KY border earlier this month !


33 posted on 01/20/2012 12:53:24 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: Pharmboy

A new kind of revolution? Once states begin to punish the residents of states that impose sanctions may just work. Those residents need to understand that not standing in opposition to what their legislators are doing may have consequences.


34 posted on 01/20/2012 12:53:55 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: ridesthemiles

But Tennessee would be WAY out of the way...


35 posted on 01/20/2012 1:06:49 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...but I got better.)
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To: secret garden
From what I remember, she was about to walk through a metal detector. And from personal experience, it's not unusual. As a physician and a legal carry holder in NYC, I once had to go to the Bronx VA. Before I went through the metal detector, I told the security officer that I had a pistol and a permit. He said that permit's no good here...and I said, "we're in NY City and my permit is good for anywhere in the state." He says "This is federal property."

Uh-oh...but, they let me check my piece in a gun locker that the FBI agents used.

36 posted on 01/20/2012 1:17:42 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...but I got better.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
The 2nd amendment gives this young lady the right to possess a gun.

No it doesn't.

She has that right even without the 2nd amendment.

The amendment merely protects that right.

37 posted on 01/20/2012 1:18:27 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Pharmboy

“A Knoxville-based legislator, who moonlights as a farmer,... “

Ha. Those Tennessee hicks don’t even have professional full-time politicians. /sarcasm


38 posted on 01/20/2012 1:18:38 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: reed13k

this may be a good chance to fight for “shall not be infringed” in court.

if i were tennessee, i’d take a stand all the way to the SCOTUS.

teeman


39 posted on 01/20/2012 1:20:40 PM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: CynicalBear

“A new kind of revolution? Once states begin to punish the residents of states that impose sanctions may just work. Those residents need to understand that not standing in opposition to what their legislators are doing may have consequences.”

That is how other states got Kansas to allow non-resident deer hunting. Some states passed laws that they would sell non-resident tags to any residents of states that also sell non-res tags. At the time, KS was the only holdout, and their residents complained.


40 posted on 01/20/2012 1:22:07 PM PST by eartrumpet
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even when you cannot carry in NYC ( I am a physician so I could get one)

WTF? How exactly is a physician entitled to carry when a salesman or bakery chef or UNIX engineer is not?

41 posted on 01/20/2012 1:32:30 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: DuncanWaring

You can rest your case. I concede.


42 posted on 01/20/2012 1:36:24 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

I made house calls and physicians like myself carried drugs and cash and were targeted with phony calls.


43 posted on 01/20/2012 1:37:38 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...but I got better.)
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To: secret garden; All
This is silly. What kind of responsible gunowner checks their gun anywhere?

I do not know the law in Tennessee, but in Arizona, public buildings that are posted against weapons have to have lockers for people to check their weapons in. I have done it many dozens of times at the library, courthouse, DMV, Recorders office, etc.

It makes more sense than leaving your weapon in a vehicle to be stolen.

44 posted on 01/20/2012 1:38:23 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Pharmboy; archy

Amendment 14
“...No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States:”

Looks like a civil rights case to me.

Archy, isn’t there a law with severe penalties for infringing on civil rights under the color of law?


45 posted on 01/20/2012 1:45:42 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: eartrumpet

If I were writing that story I would have said he was a farmer who moonlights as a legislator...


46 posted on 01/20/2012 1:56:57 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...but I got better.)
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To: secret garden
We suspect this was a set-up, to drum up publicity for this woman.

What the heck are you talking about? Why would she be looking for publicity? She got a lot of undesired publicity and she might be looking at a fairly long sentence in jail!

47 posted on 01/20/2012 2:02:22 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: MeganC

Who said they did? The last time I got pulled over by a trooper in WVa I was driving a RED rental car with New Jersey plates. I was doing 79 in an 70 mph zone. Until the trooper saw I had a PA driver’s license, he was strickly prefessional as in, Oh boy, oh boy, I’m going to give this man a ticket There was a definite change in demeanor when he saw that license.

If I had a NJ or NY drivers license, I’d have gotten a ticket.


48 posted on 01/20/2012 2:16:41 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: RitchieAprile

The thing is that while you’re upset with the likes of Bloomberg and Schemer other people are more upset with the New Yorkers who keep voting these vermin into office.

And don’t forget that Bloomberg has been endlessly trying to usurp the gun rights of people in other states so it’s only fair that New Yorkers are held to account for the tyranny they vote for.


49 posted on 01/20/2012 2:43:09 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

“The 2nd amendment gives this young lady the right to possess a gun.”

Forgive the semantic correction, but it is important. The Constitution does not give anyone any rights and to say that is a very dangerous thing, indeed. Because if you say the Constitution ‘gives’ a right then it can be amended to take away that right, too.

The Constitution enumerates rights that are inherent in men courtesy of their Creator. It makes clear that government ‘shall not’ infringe on those God given rights.

But nowhere in the Constitution does it say that my rights come from a mere document.


50 posted on 01/20/2012 2:49:52 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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