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US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea
Korea Times ^ | 1-18-12 | Lee Tae-hoon

Posted on 01/18/2012 3:26:02 PM PST by dynachrome

Washington has agreed to allow the importation of M1 Garand rifles from Seoul, reversing its earlier decision to ban the shipping of the weapon used by South Korean and U.S. soldiers during the 1950-53 Korean War, a senior defense official said Wednesday.

“The U.S. government approved the imports of some 86,000 of the rifles,” said Lee Sun-chul, deputy defense minister for force and resources management.

“The historic firearms are expected to be sold to American Korean War veterans and their families in time for the 62nd anniversary of the Korean War, which falls on June 25 this year.”

(Excerpt) Read more at koreatimes.co.kr ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; garand; imports; korea; m1rifle
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Yeee-ha! (word is that the conditon may be iffy, but what the heck, I want one!)
1 posted on 01/18/2012 3:26:18 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

sign me up for one!


2 posted on 01/18/2012 3:29:39 PM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: dynachrome

Woot...Woot. How long before CMP has them in inventory?


3 posted on 01/18/2012 3:29:55 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: dynachrome

I have one made on 6-42 and with British proof marks. I could see myself acquiring another one. I bet they sell out quickly.


4 posted on 01/18/2012 3:30:52 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: dynachrome
Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang.....Ping !


5 posted on 01/18/2012 3:31:19 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: dynachrome; SLB

Wow! Any idea how they will be distributed or where they will be sold? My grandfather was in KMAG and I think it would be neat to have one of these Garands in his memory.


6 posted on 01/18/2012 3:31:39 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: dynachrome

This is excellent news!


7 posted on 01/18/2012 3:32:09 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: dynachrome
It says they are to be sold to Korean War veterans and their families.

How are they going to know this?

My father won 2 Purple Hearts in Korea. I want one of these GREAT rifles. The greatest battle rifle in history.

8 posted on 01/18/2012 3:32:35 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: JrsyJack

Two years. IF the CMP is the importer. They could be imported by an independent importer.


9 posted on 01/18/2012 3:34:55 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Mariner

Maybe the American Legion will have info or any national org, associated with the Korean War?


10 posted on 01/18/2012 3:35:09 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Mariner
They are STILL an effective rifle for block defense.

8 round clips...quickly changed and semi-auto.

30.06

Still effective.

11 posted on 01/18/2012 3:37:45 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: dynachrome

Awesome! Would these be CMP bound guns? I picked up a late serial number Service Grade Special Garand from them last year. Collector grade SA metal with aftermarket wood. +1 on the muzzle Gauge. Sweet shooter. Got a ‘03-A3 to a few months ago from them. Definitely much more “used” then my M1 but glad to have it.


12 posted on 01/18/2012 3:39:21 PM PST by Craigon
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To: Parley Baer

British proof marked Garands bring a premium. Can you still see the band of red paint to denote a non-British standard cartridge?


13 posted on 01/18/2012 3:42:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: dynachrome

I would rather have a few of the 600,000 m1 carbines. Why arent the M1 carbines being sold?


14 posted on 01/18/2012 3:43:12 PM PST by CGalen
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To: dynachrome
US allows import of 86,000 M1 rifles from Korea

Should read:

Obama Administration suddenly realizes that 2012 is an election year; promises gun control nuts that it will reverse all such decisions the morning after the general election.

15 posted on 01/18/2012 3:44:27 PM PST by mountainbunny (Seamus Sez: "Good dogs don't let their masters vote for Mitt!")
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To: dynachrome
From the article:

"The historic firearms are expected to be sold to American Korean War veterans and their families in time for the 62nd anniversary of the Korean War, which falls on June 25 this year.”

Sold only to "Korean War veterans and their families"?

"They currently sell for around $220, according to another defense ministry official."

Where did they dig up a number like that

A field grade M1 at CMP is $525 up to $695.

Service grade is $625 to $950.

Correct grade is $1,150.

Retail sellers are even higher.

CMP link - http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/rifles.htm


16 posted on 01/18/2012 3:45:23 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: dynachrome

Doesn’t make up for killing a pipeline, but at least someone finally made a decision that will at least mean they aren’t destroyed, or stored in Korea for centuries. Mine was an earlier Korean return, and the article should say RETURN of Rifles, as we manufactured them, we sent the to Korea, and we loaned them to the Korean government at the end of the war, that hasn’t yet ended.


17 posted on 01/18/2012 3:45:23 PM PST by wita
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To: dynachrome

we’re probably just the middleman...walkin over to Mexico


18 posted on 01/18/2012 3:46:53 PM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: RC one
sign me up for one!

Me too if it's never been fired or removed from its original wrapper and cosmoline.

19 posted on 01/18/2012 3:47:54 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: dynachrome
Now this is good news!

I wonder if they are also considering allowing the importation of the M1 Carbines as well? I would love to get one of those, too!

20 posted on 01/18/2012 3:48:32 PM PST by Gritty (Romney is like watching your parents do the Macarena: It's embarrassing and it's dated-Mark Steyn)
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To: dynachrome

I thought that there were a lot more than 86,000 of these being offered - well above 100,000. Plus a similar number of M1 Carbines.

Not having had a family member in Korea (Grandfather was a Combat Engineer in the ETO during WWII), I’m out of the running for one of these. But I guess I could hope that the influx would serve to depress the Garand market just enough for a short period of time to put one within my financial reach.


21 posted on 01/18/2012 3:49:26 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: SVTCobra03
sign me up for one!

Me too if it's never been fired or removed from its original wrapper and cosmoline.

One like that would go for $10,000 to $25,000 or more - if there was such a thing.


22 posted on 01/18/2012 3:51:53 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: dynachrome

But the M1 Carbine sales are still being blocked as HCI and Obammy claim they are “Assault Weapons”!
This is the excuse due to their taking an actual magazine, which may hold more than ten rounds.
They also have the dreaded bayonet lug!


23 posted on 01/18/2012 3:55:07 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: CGalen
Why arent the M1 carbines being sold?

You could shoot your eye out. /sarc

24 posted on 01/18/2012 3:57:18 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: dynachrome

Garands For Sale - 1959 Advert


25 posted on 01/18/2012 3:58:00 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: dynachrome
Yep, the caveats sound iffy enough to where I would be very surprised to see an approval out of the Obama bunch.

1. They are looking at “legal” requirements for transferring the guns to a 3rd party. First, this is a great ploy for delay on reaching any decision especially until after the 2012 election, inventing a reason to reject and if they do approve, to steer the US distribution to a crony, not the CMP.

2. A Korean defense source said that there is a possibility the Obama administration may not approve the transfer. Apparently, this is probably some kind of informal understanding and not a formal agreement.

3. Korea also has 600,000 M1 Carbines they would like to give back to the US but that has been rejected since they have a multi-round magazine.

4. It mentioned that two congress peoples have a law drafted up that exempts these long guns from many or most Fed approvals by creating a military relic category, which is defined as a military weapon greater than 50 years old. Like Harry Reid would ever let this see the light of day in the Senate.

26 posted on 01/18/2012 4:01:34 PM PST by Hootowl99
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To: dynachrome

Oooh! I want one!!!


27 posted on 01/18/2012 4:02:08 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I have not noticed a red stripe. I have not looked that close though to see if there are any remnants. One thing about it is that it was used and did not sit in a warehouse somewhere.


28 posted on 01/18/2012 4:02:43 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Gritty

The M1 Carbine is a very nice weapon. :) I want an M14 but an M1 will do.


29 posted on 01/18/2012 4:03:37 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Iron Munro
Where did they dig up a number like that

Don't know but the last group of Korean M1's I saw were worn out.

30 posted on 01/18/2012 4:16:37 PM PST by fso301
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To: Parley Baer

If it was used, it was used once it was returned to the US. From what I have heard the rifles we sent over there were to be handed out to civilians if the Germans invaded.


31 posted on 01/18/2012 4:19:51 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: jpsb

I’ve a NM M1A, and so don’t feel the need for an M1. Besides, I fired a match with the M1, and I like my
M1A a lot more.

That said, I’ve also a pair of ARs, plus an AK47 clone,
but I really, really need an M1 carbine.


32 posted on 01/18/2012 5:00:16 PM PST by benewton
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To: dynachrome

Finally...At a minimum, I can now increase my parts inventory. To an ancient jarhead like me, it’s almost like having old friends being returned from captivity...


33 posted on 01/18/2012 5:05:13 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: dynachrome

I want one too. Spent years in Korea.


34 posted on 01/18/2012 5:11:58 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Logical me

Yep me too however CMP is not cheap...but I have seen some of them go for crazy prices at gun shows.


35 posted on 01/18/2012 5:41:39 PM PST by JohnD9207 (John McCain is a proud Ted Kennedy conservative!)
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To: benewton

The carbines are sweet! Mine is a General Motors manufactured (Inland). It’s my favorite coyote destroyer.


36 posted on 01/18/2012 6:05:25 PM PST by Fireone (Building the gallows, this one has two nooses.)
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To: fso301
Don't know but the last group of Korean M1's I saw were worn out.

Last import I saw was in a pawn shop. It had the stupid Govt required import company stanp. They stamped the ever luvin crap out of the barrel between the forestock and the front sight. As deep as it was, I wouldn't be surprised if it distorted the roundness of the rifled bore...

37 posted on 01/18/2012 7:08:24 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: dynachrome

Go to CMP and get a ‘Correct Grade’. I bought one 4 years ago and it is like new.

It is so pristine, I hate to fire it much.

I cut my teeth on the M14. Frankly, I can’t tell a lot of difference. I think the M1 is easier/faster to reload.

And, I’m not certain that an equal amount of ammo might not be lighter for the M1 when the weight of the steel mags is taken into account.


38 posted on 01/18/2012 7:22:32 PM PST by x1stcav (I'm voting for anyone in 2012 but an Ivy Leager.)
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To: Antoninus II
Last import I saw was in a pawn shop. It had the stupid Govt required import company stanp. They stamped the ever luvin crap out of the barrel between the forestock and the front sight. As deep as it was, I wouldn't be surprised if it distorted the roundness of the rifled bore...

At first, I thought the import stamp was an awfull thing but over the years, I've gotten ok with it because it tells part of the guns story.

Based on the Korean imports I've seen, the potential for the import stamp to alter barrel roundness would be low on the list of my concerns. All the Korean imports I've seen have worn out barrels that need replacing.

39 posted on 01/19/2012 5:41:21 AM PST by fso301
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To: Hootowl99

“Korea also has 600,000 M1 Carbines they would like to give back to the US but that has been rejected since they have a multi-round magazine.”

They used to sell them at Sears, for crying out loud.


40 posted on 01/19/2012 5:44:23 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: dynachrome

I thought most of them were the M1 Carbine, NOT the one chambered for the 30-06.

It is a great home and urban defense rifle and I would love to have one. But if its the M1 carbine its useless for the most part for hunting at long range.

And I suspect many people are not even awate what the difference is between the .30carbine and the 30-06 that the Garand used.


41 posted on 01/19/2012 5:53:13 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: JohnD9207

NOTE: that if you want a “new” M1 you can get an M1 carbine from Auto-Ordnance and if you need parts for your original they also have them
http://www.auto-ordnance.com/Parts/Auto-Ordnance-AOM130.asp
Be aware these AO ones exist as there are reports of people mistaking them for the original...they are that close.


42 posted on 01/19/2012 10:06:22 AM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: dynachrome
She noted that the U.S. government, however, rejected Seoul’s proposal to export some 600,000 M1 Carbines, which were also used in the Korean War, as they come with a (detachable) magazine that can carry multiple rounds unlike the Garands.

Drat! As if the Garand was a single shot. The writer knows diddly.

43 posted on 01/19/2012 3:10:03 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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44 posted on 01/20/2012 7:21:57 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Mariner; Iron Munro
It says they are to be sold to Korean War veterans

Sold to 80 year old vets? Not a lot of gun collectors at the age of 80.

Add some red tape and very few will ever be in the hands of the buyers.

The day after election day and "the program" is scraped by 0bama? Just another election year promise from "the one"?

45 posted on 01/20/2012 10:01:41 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: mountainbunny

You read my mind. Lies from a liar.


46 posted on 01/20/2012 2:02:07 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
British proof marked Garands bring a premium.

I've never heard of such a thing.

Are you sure you're not thinking of the "P14 (.303)" vs. "M1917 (.30-'06)"?

47 posted on 01/20/2012 6:05:38 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

No. In 1940 and ‘41 the British were afraid that they Germans were going to invade and they wanted to use the Garands to arm the populace. When the British got them, they proof stamped them and put a band of red paint on them to denote that they were a non-standard caliber. They were eventually returned to the US in the early 1950s completely unused.


48 posted on 01/20/2012 6:35:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: CGalen

Because they can hold too many rounds and silly peasents like you might do the government’s job of defending yourself with them.

Do I really need a sarc tag for that? For real, they have detachable magazines and they can hold a lot more then 8 rounds so big nanny doesn’t trust you with them.


49 posted on 01/20/2012 6:51:38 PM PST by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: Iron Munro

I ran that through the inflation calculator. $97.50 in 1959 is $753.66 in 2011, so unless these were in unissued condition there really hasn’t been much change in the price.


50 posted on 01/20/2012 8:02:10 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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