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Take the Pledge, Support the Nominee [as long as it's not Romney or Paul. JimRob]
Human Events ^ | 12/23/2011 | Roger Hedgecock

Posted on 12/24/2011 2:43:58 PM PST by neverdem

Be thankful that the season of Obama media vetting of Republican presidential candidates is coming to a close as Republican voters in the primary states at long last get to have their say on who the nominee will be.

The last eight months of media focus on each of the "not-Romneys" has been like watching the picadors in a bullfight wound the bull with their lances before the brave matador steps into the ring to face the dying bull.

But already there's talk of third party campaigns if certain candidates' egos get bruised by voter rejection in the primary season.

All of us who are committed to the defeat of Barack Obama cannot let this happen. Candidates for the Republican nomination for President must pledge now to support the nominee chosen by the voters in upcoming primary elections. Failure to take the pledge should be a factor when Republican primary voters make their choice.

A second term for Obama would do unthinkable harm to this country. I know because I'm already living in Obama's second term.

I live in California, a former "golden state" now mired in bloated government, rising debt (despite a balanced budget amendment to the state constitution), higher taxes, 12% unemployment, with productive people and their businesses fleeing the state. California is awash in illegal aliens, failing schools, and pot hole filled roads.

Don't let California's present be your state's future.

Our incumbent president faces the voters having in just three years championed policies that more than doubled the annual federal deficit, added more than $4 trillion to the government's debt, nearly doubled the unemployment rate, and doubled the price of gasoline.

Based on this record of accomplishment, Obama went on 60 Minutes to claim with a straight face that he is the fourth best President in American history! To protect Obama from his Hugo Chavez moment, 60 Minutes edited out the claim in the on-air version of the interview.

To restore an America of opportunity and prosperity, not to mention humility, Obama must go.

But Obama will be re-elected if candidates rejected by primary voters, or self appointed billionaire blowhards, launch third party bids.

The first to threaten a third party run this week was libertarian Gary Johnson (who?). Wikipedia says Johnson was a two term governor of New Mexico.

Johnson advocates a 23% national sales tax, marijuana legalization, gay marriage, and an open border with Mexico. Johnson charges that "the Republican Party hung me out to dry" after he appeared on only two of the televised debates. Based on his platform, he got more time than he should have.

Johnson is not the threat. The threat is a third party run by Ron Paul, Mike Bloomberg, or Donald Trump. I'm not really worried about the billionaires either; they are most likely bluster and self promotion. I'm worried about a third party Ron Paul campaign re-electing Barack Obama.

Glenn Beck has said that should Newt Gingrich get the Republican nomination, Beck would back Ron Paul as a third party candidate. Glenn: Please reconsider.

According to a Washington Post/ABC News poll published this week, Ron Paul is within 5 points of Obama in a hypothetical November matchup between the two. But if Paul doesn't get the Republican nomination and makes a third party run, Obama will be re-elected when the conservative, right of center majority splits its vote between Paul and the Republican nominee.

What part of "Vote for Perot, Elect Clinton" do you not understand?

I've been down this road before. In 1992. I supported Perot. I was wrong. I won't get fooled again.

Any of the declared candidates for the Republican nomination are preferable to Obama. The choice of Republican voters in the coming primary season should be honored. Ron Paul and all the aspiring presidential hopefuls should pledge to support the nominee.

While I will personally vote in the primary for the candidate I think the most qualified and conservative, I will support the candidate who wins the Republican nomination, whether it be Paul, Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, or even Governor Johnson.


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With the situation looking way too much like the late 1930s, ABO means a lot more than the major blood groups. Obama has shown that he's a foreign policy and national security disaster!

Meanwhile, the Tea Party movement needs to complete its takeover of the GOP. This is no time to be wasting resources on a new conservative party.

I was always a member of NY's Conservative Party when I lived in NY, until Fred Thompson had his name in the GOP primary in 2008. I changed my registration at the October deadline in 2007. I wound up voting for Romney because Thompson already dropped out.

If Romney gets elected, and I hope Romney doesn't get the nomination, and the GOP has both houses of the next Congress, there can be no repeats of GWB's No Child Left Behind and Medicare Part D! We're broke!

P.S. Trump is a brandname and a hairdo. I can't see Bloomberg taking votes from the right, only from the ignorant moderates and independents. Bloomberg, currently registered as an independent, was a lifelong, hardcore lefty before he became a RINO.

1 posted on 12/24/2011 2:44:07 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

After Virginia...

Not Romney. Under no circumstances.


2 posted on 12/24/2011 2:48:57 PM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: neverdem

Yawn. Always with the threat of this “this is no time for a 3rd party, the moment is too crucial!”

If Romney gets anointed the nomination, there will no longer be any room to pretend that any real difference exists between the two halves of the Republicrat cartel.


3 posted on 12/24/2011 2:49:02 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: neverdem
While I will personally vote in the primary for the candidate I think the most qualified and conservative, I will support the candidate who wins the Republican nomination, whether it be Paul, Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, or even Governor Johnson.

So will I unless it's Paul or Romney.

4 posted on 12/24/2011 2:49:57 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: CainConservative

So will I unless it’s Paul or Romney.

Ditto


5 posted on 12/24/2011 2:50:42 PM PST by jrg
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To: neverdem
I love my country more than I hate Romney.

This country cannot survive 4 more years of zero. It will survive a Romney presidency.

6 posted on 12/24/2011 2:52:49 PM PST by OSHA (One despises and wants to destroy the United States, the other is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Yes... I’m getting tired of holding my nose while I vote. All that happens is that the country moves to the Left at 45 mph instead of 55 mph.


7 posted on 12/24/2011 2:55:23 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: neverdem
The last eight months of media focus on each of the "not-Romneys" has been like watching the picadors in a bullfight wound the bull with their lances before the brave matador steps into the ring to face the dying bull.

Nope, not Romney, not EVER!

Besides a Romney nomination is just a guarantee of 4 more years of 0bama anyway.

Nope, not EVER!

8 posted on 12/24/2011 2:56:47 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: neverdem
If we would stop letting the media pick our candidates for us and learn to think for ourselves, we wouldn't have this problem.

But like good little lemmings, we'll follow in lock step and vote for whatever candidate the media props up for us. Then we'll whine and threaten to either sit home or vote for a third party candidate and in either case that is the same thing as pulling the lever for Obama.

In the end Republican voters will put Obama back in office and have no one to blame for it but themselves. So go ahead, stay home...vote for that third party candidate! You might as well just switch parties and send the DNC a big fat donation, because in the end your supporting them anyway.

9 posted on 12/24/2011 2:57:07 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel

The democrats aren’t the only plantation owners in town.


10 posted on 12/24/2011 2:59:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: rwilson99

Other than mitt, newt and paul, i will support any gop nominee.
Amnesty must be stopped


11 posted on 12/24/2011 3:00:07 PM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: neverdem
I will support the candidate who wins the Republican nomination, whether it be Paul, Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, or even ______________.

There's where I'm coming from.

12 posted on 12/24/2011 3:00:56 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rwilson99

? Why? Did gingrich just fall off the patato truck? was he born last night? Gingrich’s fault, no one else’s.


13 posted on 12/24/2011 3:01:05 PM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: neverdem

Nope, not this time.


14 posted on 12/24/2011 3:02:06 PM PST by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: OSHA
Massachusetts didn't even survive a lone Romney governorship.

Not only did MA get $50 abortions, mandated RomneyCare which btw came with the public option, liberal judges/gay marriages galore, a billion dollars or so in new government fees, and huge business tax increases BUT also a single term gov who spent most of the time out of state/running for another office.

15 posted on 12/24/2011 3:02:25 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: OSHA
It will survive a Romney presidency.

Your confidence teeters on faith via bu!!sh!t.

Romney certainly hasn't a past to prove that he would be any better than 0bama, all he has shown is he is willing to continue what 0bama has started by his actions as governor and his rhetoric as a candidate.

16 posted on 12/24/2011 3:03:43 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Bulwinkle

Because we’re not letting the GOP Establishment do this kind of stuff any more.

Read Jim Rob’s thread about the sudden interest in cross-referencing addresses, not just signatures, for the FIRST TIME EVER by a VA team that is backing Mitt Romney.

No more of this. We have to draw the line somewhere and say, “This far, no further!’ That is what many of us are doing this time around. No more wagging the dog.


17 posted on 12/24/2011 3:04:30 PM PST by TitansAFC (Mitt Romney gets less bang for the buck than John-Freaking-Huntsman.)
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To: neverdem

I hereby pledge to support the nominee as long as he’s not an abortionist, gay rights advocating, Reagan denying, socialist healthcare pushing, mandate loving, gun grabbing, liberal judge appointing, two-faced, flip-flopping, lying RINO hypocrite or a whacko drug-pushing isolationist.

That leaves Gingrich, Bachmann, Perry or Santorum. Huntsman? Who?


18 posted on 12/24/2011 3:05:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Carbonsteel

Doesn’t matter. If it’s down to Romney vs. Obama in the general election, it makes no effective difference which one of them wins. Both of them are phony puppet candidates who will lead the country in the same direction at the same rate—one of them will appear more palatable to Democrats, the other more palatable to Republicans.

I’ll do my part to conscientiously abstain from propping up the illusion of choice and perpetuate the shuffle game.


19 posted on 12/24/2011 3:05:11 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: jrg; CainConservative

Ditto
No Obama, Paul, or Romney


20 posted on 12/24/2011 3:05:20 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Carbonsteel

Doesn’t matter. If it’s down to Romney vs. Obama in the general election, it makes no effective difference which one of them wins. Both of them are phony puppet candidates who will lead the country in the same direction at the same rate—one of them will appear more palatable to Democrats, the other more palatable to Republicans.

I’ll do my part to conscientiously abstain from propping up the illusion of choice and won’t perpetuate the shuffle game any longer.


21 posted on 12/24/2011 3:05:40 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: neverdem

Will not support Romney or anyone the GOP establishment and MSM push. For the first time in 50 years, I will not vote if it comes down to the status-fixe.


22 posted on 12/24/2011 3:06:07 PM PST by Jukeman (No Romney, No Bush, No Trump. No, No, No. Never. Final Word!)
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To: TitansAFC
BINGO!!
23 posted on 12/24/2011 3:06:34 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: neverdem

I will NEVER vote for another RINO!

That’s my pledge to my family!


24 posted on 12/24/2011 3:07:36 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I'm backing Newt!)
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To: neverdem

Conservatives have precious few real choices in the GOP primary; Bachmann, Santorum, Perry much less so, Gingrich as a last resort. Romney is a non-starter as are Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman. Then we get egomaniacs such as Donald Trump making noises about running on a third party ticket. Even billionaire Michael Bloomberg, a solid liberal masquerading as a ‘Republican’, mutters about running as an independent. I’m sure he would only do so to help Obama because, whether it was Trump or Bloomberg, we know they would siphon votes from the Republican nominee and, in effect, probably give Obama another term, which would likely be the end of America as we know and love it. So, conservatives look at Newt Gingrich, wince and know that to defeat Obama, we may have to cast our vote for him on November 6th, 2012. It could even come down to voting for the RINO’s RINO, Mitt Romney, to keep Obama out of the White House. Conservatives are sick of ‘holding our nose’ and voting for this election’s designated RINO. However, we’re being pushed into a corner, as it were, and may end up doing just that in order to defeat and remove Barack Obama from power, which is the ultimate goal. I find this frustrating but possibly, inevitable - and I hate it.


25 posted on 12/24/2011 3:07:36 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: neverdem

Make the pledge? I understand the anxiety.

But making a pledge sounds too much like this: “Dear GOP leaders. Don’t worry, I’ll vote for whoever you nominate, no matter how bad.”

I hate to say it, but four more years of Obama OR the current corrupt RINO idiots will destroy our country. Either one.

I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I sure as hell won’t pledge to support whatever idiot Karl Rove and Co. manage to pull out of the sewer and foist on us.

I’m still hoping that SOMETHING will change, and we’ll get a decent candidate to vote for. But it’s not looking very hopeful at the moment.


26 posted on 12/24/2011 3:08:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: OSHA
This country cannot survive 4 more years of zero. It will survive a Romney presidency.

I'm not so sure. I recall a president named Nixon who campaigned as a conservative, yet when he got in, he embraced the Great Society, vastly expanded federal intrusion into the economy by creating the EPA and OSHA, started Affirmative Action, appointed the Supreme Court Justice who wrote Roe vs Wade, and tried to push through a guaranteed annual income.

If his track record is anything to go by, President Romney will embrace and expand Obamacare and fill the judiciary with liberals, as he did in Massachusetts.

On the other hand, if Obama is re-elected, he'll be seen as a lame duck as soon as he takes the oath of office.

27 posted on 12/24/2011 3:08:43 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: neverdem

NO ROMNEY!! NO WAY!!

Those who can’t live with that are welcome to take the exit door. And don’t let it hit you where the good Lord split ya!!


28 posted on 12/24/2011 3:09:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: neverdem

No Romney No way. Policy wise he is little different than Obama and a republican congress won’t oppose him. He will destroy the courts, the military, our social fabric and the conservative movement for years.

At least with Obama there is a chance to fight for our liberty

We have seen the republican establishment frag conservatives... they don’t get my vote....


29 posted on 12/24/2011 3:09:18 PM PST by Breto (The republican leadership are morons)
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To: neverdem

I’ve voted exclusively GOP my entire voting life, never wavering a single time. Not for Perot, not for anybody.

But if Romney is the nominee, the GOP can just go choke to death. Three years of backstabbing conservatives, backstabbing Palin, backstabbing the Tea Party, backstabbing the grassroots... like I’m going to ‘reward’ these scumbags with my vote? To Hell with the bastards!


30 posted on 12/24/2011 3:09:50 PM PST by greene66
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To: Carbonsteel; sickoflibs
feel better now ???

get over yourself and your FEAR of the boogeyman...

*if* a representative doesnt show up worthy of voting FOR, then the blame doesnt fall on the citizenry that had a *choice* between piss and vinegar...it lies squarely on the statist gubmint and the media lackeys that have driven the citizen legislator into extinction...

as it stands, the only difference between 'R' and 'D' is that one wants to pretend to be fiscally responsible...

last cycle, i had one name on the ballot to 'choose' from...that wasnt/isnt representation...

31 posted on 12/24/2011 3:09:57 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: neverdem

I know the Republican Party leadership would love to toss the blame of their failings on us, but the problem is that the leadership does not clearly define enough what Conservatism is, and what we should be doing to make it succeed.

Bush barely scrapes by the likes of Gore.
Bush barely scrapes by the likes of Kerry.
McCain can’t even muster a win over the likes of Obama.

Folks, we’ve got a problem, and it isn’t the electorate.

If we can’t get candidates who can beat some of the worst Leftists our nation has ever seen, by more than a very slim margin, or can’t beat them at all, then we’re doing something terribly wrong.

How about trying Conservatism for a change?

I know it’s novel, but what the hey...


32 posted on 12/24/2011 3:10:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: neverdem

I’m NOT taking the pledge. If the GOP nominates someone like Paul or Romney, they can take their chances.


33 posted on 12/24/2011 3:11:27 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: neverdem

” P.S. Trump is a brandname and a hairdo “

Read his stands on the isues of the day and get back to me . Anybody who has the balls to bring up the BC issue and attack China is no leftist .


34 posted on 12/24/2011 3:12:12 PM PST by sushiman
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To: Breto

“No Romney No way. Policy wise he is little different than Obama and a republican congress won’t oppose him. He will destroy the courts, the military, our social fabric and the conservative movement for years.”

Exactly. a Romney presidency could very well be WORSE than 4 more years of Obama.


35 posted on 12/24/2011 3:13:10 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Jim Robinson
That leaves Gingrich, Bachmann, Perry or Santorum.

Exactly. All good candidates (including Cain, imo) fishing from the same CONSERVATIVE pond.

Which is why the conservative survivor among them will CRUSH Romney and his political bro, Obama.

36 posted on 12/24/2011 3:13:33 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: jrg; CainConservative
[CC] So will I unless it’s Paul or Romney.

[jrg] Ditto

Double-double dittoes to your ditto and double-ditto.

37 posted on 12/24/2011 3:14:30 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem

The take over of the R party will begin in earnest for NY right after the 1st of the year. Watch and join.


38 posted on 12/24/2011 3:15:49 PM PST by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: neverdem

Testify, Testify...


39 posted on 12/24/2011 3:16:53 PM PST by rhombus
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To: neverdem

There is no way in hell I will vote for that M*ssh*le SOB Romney...no way in hell.


40 posted on 12/24/2011 3:17:35 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: TitansAFC
Read Jim Rob’s thread about the sudden interest in cross-referencing addresses, not just signatures, for the FIRST TIME EVER by a VA team that is backing Mitt Romney.

Sounds like Mittens is taking a page out of Bozo's book. That's exactly the crap Bozo pulled in Chicagoland.

Aren't totalitarians just more fun? Great headlines, bodies in the streets, giant statues and megalomaniac public projects, giant scandals and graft, nuclear wars -- they're the newspaperman's friend.

41 posted on 12/24/2011 3:17:55 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: jimrob
You can count LonePalm and SweetiePalm in.

We were supporting Cain but now supporting Gingrich, Santorum, or Bachmann.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

42 posted on 12/24/2011 3:18:13 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: EGPWS

>>It will survive a Romney presidency.
>> Your confidence teeters on faith via bu!!sh!t.

You’re right. It is faith. Obama is driven by something evil to destroy America. He loathes the majority of the people in this country, the Constitution, free enterprise, and basically every thing good.

Romney is a socialist tool, but he isn’t evil. If the Democrat choice was different, I’d say that its time to end the GOP and start building a new party for 2016, but Obama must go! We can’t handle a nuclear Iran, $10 gas, and 50% unemployment. We’ll all be working on collective farms and sending our grain to the city to feed Party Members by 2016 if he wins.

If we hold our noses and vote Romney (when the GOPgives him the nomination), and stay ANGRY, we can start forming our new party in January 2013. But we have to stay mad...mad as hell! Perhaps the humiliation of voting for Romney will fuel our anger. The elites will think they’ve sated us by having Romney win, but that’s when we strike back!

I don’t want to vote for him, but the GOP is spiking all the other candidates, one by one, and for that, they deserve to go the way of the Whigs. I don’t think there’s any doubt that they are the other side of the Republicrat coin. Regardless of the outcome of this election, it is time to radically change the “two” party system in this country.


43 posted on 12/24/2011 3:18:27 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: neverdem

Never Willard. Never RuPaul.


44 posted on 12/24/2011 3:21:24 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: neverdem
This is no time to be wasting resources on a new conservative party.

...I'll be respectful, when do we get serious about a third party. Every election cycle I can remember in abstinence of substance abuse it's the SOS. Sorry, I've had enough of these two "one party" sideshow tents. I'll bank on getting the Congress back to conservative. If that fails, I'm going to pack it in.

45 posted on 12/24/2011 3:21:50 PM PST by gargoyle (...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: neverdem

I will not vote for another RINO. Period. The establishment GOP can rot with their liberal lite Joe Isuzu Romney types.

I will write in, vote 3rd Party, or cast no vote before voting for the “lessers of evil” liberal.

That lying racist crackpot Paul can never win the primaries but of course I would not vote him.


46 posted on 12/24/2011 3:22:12 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Bryanw92
Romney is a socialist tool, but he isn’t evil.

NOPE, my friend! Weird Willard's evil personified. Period. Next.

47 posted on 12/24/2011 3:22:43 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: Bryanw92

It’d be easier to gain traction for forming a 3rd party if Obama gets reelected (which he will anyway if Romney gets the nom).


48 posted on 12/24/2011 3:23:14 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: neverdem

Everything can be repealed later, except amnesty.
That’s why we need Bachmann or Santorum. No to Newt and his lunatic amnesty plan


49 posted on 12/24/2011 3:23:46 PM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: neverdem

I would like someone to take a poll of all the candidates in the race. A non-binding poll of course, with the top two vote getters being put up again with no other choice except for NV..no vote. Let’s see what people really want, and what they will accept.


50 posted on 12/24/2011 3:25:05 PM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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