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Gingrich, Perry fail to make Va. ballot
cbsnews.com ^ | December 24, 2011 7:25 AM | cbsnews.com

Posted on 12/24/2011 7:43:46 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

(AP)WASHINGTON — Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has failed to qualify for Virginia's March 6 Republican primary, a development that complicates his bid to win the GOP presidential nomination.

"After verification, RPV has determined that Newt Gingrich did not submit required 10K signatures and has not qualified for the VA primary," the Republican Party of Virginia announced early Saturday on its Twitter website.

Perry also fell short of the 10,000 signatures of registered voters required for a candidate's name to be on the primary ballot, but former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Rep. Ron Paul will be on the ballot.

State GOP spokesman Garren Shipley said volunteers spent Friday validating petitions that the four candidates submitted by the Thursday 5 p.m. deadline to the State Board of Elections. Shipley was not available early Saturday to discuss the announcement posted on the website.

Failing to get on the ballot will be a major setback for Gingrich, who has tried to use his recent upsurge in popularity to make up for a late organizing start. Ironically, Gingrich had a slight lead over Romney, with others farther back, in a Quinnipiac poll of Virginia Republicans released earlier in the week.

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To: chopperjc

you can keep repeating the lie that Gingrich and Perry didn’t get 10,000 signatures, over and over. But that doesn’t make it so.

Both Gingrich and Perry turned in 1000’s of signatures over the requirement.

Someone, then threw out 1000’s of those signatures.

Who was that someone? what campaign are they affiliated with? how many signatures of Romney’s were thrown out?

these are the questions we should be asking.


151 posted on 12/24/2011 10:22:15 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: ez

Between Romney and Paul, I’d pick Romney. But I’m pretty sure I’ll be writing in Bugs Bunny or not showing up for the primaries. The GOP field—top to bottom—is an absolute disgrace.


152 posted on 12/24/2011 10:22:27 AM PST by Huck (No.)
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To: TEXOKIE

How long have these rules been in place? My understanding is the same rules were in place in 2008 and everyone managed to get through the hoops.


153 posted on 12/24/2011 10:24:00 AM PST by Huck (No.)
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To: bk1000
Obama=6

Romney=half-dozen

154 posted on 12/24/2011 10:24:27 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

But Zero who is non qualified makes it?

The bureaucracy wants to be served, and no, we shall not be served by the bureaucracy.... suckers


155 posted on 12/24/2011 10:24:38 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Lazamataz; TitansAFC

I’ve never voted for or supported Ron Paul. Titan is a liar, and you’re a clown. Piss off.


156 posted on 12/24/2011 10:25:54 AM PST by Huck (No.)
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To: Wallop the Cat

I am still confused (see my last post with the links)It looks like 10K signatures was required then 15K was and ObamneyCare had 15K..


157 posted on 12/24/2011 10:26:47 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Lazlo in PA
He is. Just ask him.

LOL. What a mess this is. I really think Obama has a good shot at re-election.

158 posted on 12/24/2011 10:29:02 AM PST by Huck (No.)
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To: Wallop the Cat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2824646/posts?page=111#111


159 posted on 12/24/2011 10:29:41 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: All

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rick-perry-disqualified-from-virginia-primary-ballot/

(excerpt)

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman did not turn in signatures and therefore failed to qualify.


160 posted on 12/24/2011 10:31:26 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

If your name was on the previous 2008 ballot and you get 15K sigs you don’t need to be certified for 2012. This applies to Romney, Ron Paul, and (presumably) Obama.

In other words, ALL candidates who attempted to get certified for 2012 were rejected.


161 posted on 12/24/2011 10:32:26 AM PST by Gideon7
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To: COBOL2Java
No write-ins allowed in VA primaries.

Interesting wording in the law. The way it is written could be argued both ways. It doesn't say write ins are forbidden in the primary. It says that write ins are accepted for elections, except for primaries.

At any rate, if the majority of voters write in a candidate that beats the person “deemed” to have qualified, a good case exists for a legal challenge based on disenfranchisement of those voters. Voter's rights have been found to trump rules.

162 posted on 12/24/2011 10:34:59 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Gideon7

IF so then why did I read specific timelines of Obama and ObameyCare getting their signatures in this year?They just resubmitted last years? Insane! So because RomneyCare has been running for 5 years it is his turn? Lunacy!


163 posted on 12/24/2011 10:36:18 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Flint
Does VA have a provision for write in candidates?

Write-in votes are allowed (but not required to be allowed) in a primary election. It is up to the party to decide whether to allow write-in votes.

The the 2008 presidential primary election the Virgina Republican Party counted zero (0) write-in votes.

It is up to the Virgina Republican Party to decide whether or not to count write-in votes for 2012.

Given that party the VA GOP is dominated by Romney supporters, it is very doubtful.

164 posted on 12/24/2011 10:37:08 AM PST by Gideon7
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To: MayflowerMadam
“I’m beginning to think a brokered GOP convention will lead to the best outcome.”

I’ve been wondering about this, but must admit that I’m not sure how a brokered convention works.”

I would bet that the GOP Establishment is even more able to control the outcome of a brokered convention.

Dig up the book “A Choice Not an Echo” for the inside scoop on inside tricks of GOP prior to 1964. Written by Phyllis Schlafly.

165 posted on 12/24/2011 10:40:17 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

CNN reporting, turns out Perry failed to qualify for Virginia’s March 6 Republican primary because he thought it was being held in West Virgina.


166 posted on 12/24/2011 10:40:49 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kjo

“Don’t kid yourself...the GOP establishment is going to do whatever is necessary to get the nomination to Romney.”

BING BING BING!!!

We have a winner!


167 posted on 12/24/2011 10:41:06 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

One can certainly question Newt and Pery’s organizational skills, hence their ability to be President.(I’m a Gingrich supporter. What a let down!)


168 posted on 12/24/2011 10:41:50 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: dragnet2

I usually have a great sense of humor but playing into the MSM saying Perry is dumb is not funny to me sorry try another joke.


169 posted on 12/24/2011 10:42:35 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: greeneyes
At any rate, if the majority of voters write in a candidate that beats the person “deemed” to have qualified, a good case exists for a legal challenge based on disenfranchisement of those voters. Voter's rights have been found to trump rules.

That would be a fascinating outcome. Myth gets 25%, RuPaul gets about 10%, and the remaining 65% goes to "unaccepted write-ins".

170 posted on 12/24/2011 10:42:35 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: rhombus
The dog ate my homework. It’s not my fault, they’re all against me. It’s a conspiracy!! Pass the popcorn.

Indeed. Boo-hoo. In 2008, they had the same rules? That year, McCain, Rudy, Huckabee, Paul, and even that lazy old Fred Thompson all got it done.

171 posted on 12/24/2011 10:43:26 AM PST by Huck (No.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Next: to match all of this lunacy they will announce Trump is running third party with Hillary as his VP.


172 posted on 12/24/2011 10:48:03 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: onyx

UPDATE: And… no write-in options, either! Doug Mataconis and Ed Morrissey observe the relevant Virginia law:

At all elections except primary elections it shall be lawful for any voter to vote for any person other than the listed candidates for the office by writing or hand printing the person’s name on the official ballot. “

I find wiggle room here. The law does NOT state that write ins are NOT permitted for primaries. It states that write ins have to be accepted for all elections, but then provides that the primary can make an exception-not that it HAS to make an exception.

Don’t know if I explained that very well, but I hope you get my drift.LOL.


173 posted on 12/24/2011 10:49:16 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Gideon7

"And as the polls close here on Super Tuesday, the clear winner is Mitt Romney with 25%, followed by Ron Paul with 10%. The 65% remainder of the votes cast were unaccepted write-in votes."


174 posted on 12/24/2011 10:50:20 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Huck; Lazamataz; TheBattman; rabscuttle385; All; VicVega

“I agree with Rep. Paul on most issues. On taxation. On monetary policy. On fiscal policy. On civil liberties. On scope of government.

Hell, even on foreign policy, I think he’s closer to reality than the hubristic Wilsonians who’ve been setting policy for the last several decades. ( I call them hubristic Wilsonians because if I simply refer to them as neocons, the brow-beaters will say I hate Jews.)” -— Huck

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2815382/posts?page=10#10

“I’ve never voted for Ron Paul. I am thinking that this time I will vote for him.”-—Huck

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2817519/posts?page=21#21

“I’d have to go with Ron Paul, warts and all.”-—Huck

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2820103/posts?page=24#24


175 posted on 12/24/2011 10:50:40 AM PST by TitansAFC (Mitt Romney gets less bang for the buck than John-Freaking-Huntsman.)
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To: COBOL2Java

LOL. Yep. I think the GOP deserves it too. They have blocked conservative candidates for decades using all manner of methods.


176 posted on 12/24/2011 10:52:39 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
At all elections except primary elections it shall be lawful for any voter to vote for any person other than the listed candidates for the office by writing or hand printing the person’s name on the official ballot. “

I find wiggle room here. The law does NOT state that write ins are NOT permitted for primaries. It states that write ins have to be accepted for all elections, but then provides that the primary can make an exception-not that it HAS to make an exception.

The obfuscation is likely deliberate. They don't want to make it too obvious that the party is free to decide whether or not to accept write-in votes.

177 posted on 12/24/2011 10:54:03 AM PST by Gideon7
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To: TexasFreeper2009

>> RNC insiders rigging the system to get their butt boy Romney the nomination.

That’s my theory.


178 posted on 12/24/2011 10:54:40 AM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: greeneyes
How do you like those ballot restrictions now? [Virgina checks addresses first time?]
179 posted on 12/24/2011 10:55:17 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: TitansAFC

Please see your latest ping from me.


180 posted on 12/24/2011 10:56:13 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: TitansAFC

I owe you an apology. I ASSumed you were referring to Mike HUCKabee. Even though you pull for the Titans, you do deserve the apology for my mistake. Merry Christmas.


181 posted on 12/24/2011 10:57:24 AM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: onyx
the party is, for apparently the first time, cross-checking the addresses that signature-givers gave against the electronic voter database file for accuracies. A name without a proper address match was tossed, the official said.

Aha. Now we are learning something. This check was done by computer, and for the first time. And all candidates who applied for certifiaction were rejected.

Could be due to an overly-strict address match algorithm. For example if your actual street address is "1234 N Main St" but you wrote down "1234 Main" you got rejected.

New computerized process. Done for the first time. Rejects ALL candidates who used it. It's a process problem/glitch.

182 posted on 12/24/2011 11:02:31 AM PST by Gideon7
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
State GOP spokesman Garren Shipley said volunteers spent Friday validating petitions...

There's the problem right there.

183 posted on 12/24/2011 11:05:37 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I’ve been posting for more than a year that I believe that Mitt Romney has bought and paid for the nomination either monetarily, or with promise options. Whatever is/was good for Mitt is what he paid to whomever for this bid.

It’s looking to me as though I was correct in my assessment all along. Most unfortunate.


184 posted on 12/24/2011 11:18:43 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: TitansAFC
Yeah, I considered Ron Paul. Hell, I considered Newt way back when all you so-called conservatives assured me I was nuts for considering a liberal sell-out like Gingrich.

But I have never voted for Paul. I've never "supported" him. And just as I couldn't talk myself into voting for Newt, or Perry, I can't talk myself into voting for Ron Paul.

All I have left at this point is to write-in Bugs Bunny. The GOP field is an absolute disgrace.

185 posted on 12/24/2011 11:18:55 AM PST by Huck (No.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

It’s my understanding that if no candidate has enough votes on the first round at the convention, the delegates from all the states etc at the convention no longer have to vote the way their electors did in the primaries and caucuses. They will have been released from their commitment. So if no single candidate comes to the convention with a majority of delegates, after the initial vote it can open up to a free vote or succession of votes to hash out who the nominee will be. At that point, I believe anyone who was on any state primary ballot and got enough votes for at least one delegate is in the running, along with all others who have at least one delegate, but I’m not sure if this is a requirement. Maybe someone totally new could be introduced. It depends on the rules the GOP decides for the convention.


186 posted on 12/24/2011 11:19:22 AM PST by clashfan (know your rights)
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To: onyx
Hmmm. Not sure about that link or other stories either.

First we heard that Newt lost 2000 signatures due to lack of address. Now we hear that there were addresses, they just didn't match the database. Three points:

Did Perry and Newt have anyone observing the verification process. If so, wonder what they have to say?

Second, Was there really enough time to compare all these addresses, or could human error have occurred during the process?

Third, which address is actually correct? The database or the one on the forms? Can GOP just assume their database is correct and disqualify automatically, or do they have to make some effort to determine the truth?

In St. Louis, if memory serves, the court ruled that you can not just toss the ballots due to address discrepancies or something, so I'm thinking this may not be over.

However, Perry and Newt will both benefit from getting this matter dealt with quickly and off the front page Headlines.

187 posted on 12/24/2011 11:19:50 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Huck

The GOP field—top to bottom—is an absolute disgrace.
_________________________

Boy you got that right.


188 posted on 12/24/2011 11:21:53 AM PST by navymom1
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To: Gideon7

There were only two who applied...Perry and Gingrich.

Bachmann, Santorum and Huntsman did not apply because they didn’t have the goods and knew it.

But yes, nobody made it who didn’t make it last time (Obama, Romney, Paul), too.


189 posted on 12/24/2011 11:25:09 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I have to hand it to the GOP establishment. If people think their offered candidate sucks, they just disqualify all of them but two. Whatta country. geesh

Milt or Ron.

Hope Paul beats him.


190 posted on 12/24/2011 11:25:26 AM PST by dforest
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To: All

Could someone either point me to information or give me an answer to the following questions:

1. Does Ron Paul blame the US for 9/11?

2. Does Ron Paul believe 9/11 was an inside job?

thanks.


191 posted on 12/24/2011 11:25:56 AM PST by navymom1
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To: onyx

You’re welcome! :)


192 posted on 12/24/2011 11:28:49 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ranjit

Slick Willard is not the answer.


193 posted on 12/24/2011 11:29:22 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (If Newt Gingrich is a Reliable Conservative, Joe Biden is a member of MENSA)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
If either one of them thinks he can run the Federal government, why can't they run a campaign?
194 posted on 12/24/2011 11:38:15 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: All; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
These candidates need to be more savvy to the tactics employed by their oppositions.

An organized war against petitions is in full swing. You must spend the extra money to verify each signature as you go or, if you've proposed meaningful reform, you'll find yourself shockingly short by a statistically unlikely number.

Of course if you're on the left and trying to recall a Republican governor, any name qualifies. /s

195 posted on 12/24/2011 11:48:31 AM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: bk1000
isn’t this how obama got elected?

yeah...that and this....


196 posted on 12/24/2011 11:48:41 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
MSM saying Perry is dumb is not funny

I can't imagine where they got that.

197 posted on 12/24/2011 11:55:01 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

If so was it set cause Romney met it?


Yep confusing to say the least. But the 10,000 was the minimun set sometime back if my memory of what I’ve read is correct. At 600 per district and 15,000 statewide I guess they figure the unqualified discarded signatures will still leave enough to meet the base 400 per district and 10,000 statewide. Who knows and I’m not that worried about VA as a deciding factor in the primary. I don’t think 49 delegates out of 1144 needed to win will be a factor at all.

JMO


198 posted on 12/24/2011 11:55:57 AM PST by deport
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To: Huck
Smartest guy in the room. lol

Thanks for the meaningless throwaway line.

It's really about money, or Newt's lack of it.

199 posted on 12/24/2011 12:20:41 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: ez

> I’ll tell you what’s pissing me off. Why is the News Media, FReepers and the blogs all saying “Newt and Perry” didn’t make the ballot? The fact is, Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman, Gingrich, and Perry ALL didn’t make the ballot.

Yes, but what’s noteworthy is that Gingrich and Perry had the numbers and the organization to get the signatures, and (apparently) incompetence in the campaign screwed up.

That’s why it’s a story. The MSM sucks, it’s true, but MSM suckage doesn’t make the mistakes of the Newt or Perry camps more palatable.

If you expect to go against the Zer0 Machine you sure as shootin better have your act together. Am I wrong?


200 posted on 12/24/2011 12:36:20 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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