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JoePa Knew: In his Own Words
rivals.com ^ | december 16,2011 | matt hinton

Posted on 12/17/2011 5:34:27 PM PST by beebuster2000

He knew, in his own words from the grand jury:

In the testimony, Paterno said he "knew inappropriate action was taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster" after a meeting with then-graduate assistant Mike McQueary, who allegedly saw Sandusky sexually abusing a boy in a locker room shower the previous night, but did not inform police and waited at least a day to inform his boss, athletic director Tim Curley, because he "didn't want to interfere with their weekends."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; joepa; moralabsolutes; namblanylions; paterno; pedophilia; pedstate; pennstate; psu; sandusky

1 posted on 12/17/2011 5:34:36 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

Paterno, and for that matter the whole Penn State Admin, need to be shown for the disgusting bunch of rats that they are. The “football program” @ Penn State was more important than stopping and prosecuting criminal acts against defenseless minor boys who were from disadvantaged homes.
Every time I read about this disgusting mess, I think “where is Al Pacino from “The Scent of a Woman!” Someone needs to take a flamethrower to Penn State ( metaphorically speaking of course)


3 posted on 12/17/2011 6:00:50 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: beebuster2000

Well-written article. PSU ought to take the name of Paterno off that library building no matter how much Paterno donated to it.


4 posted on 12/17/2011 6:02:08 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: vette6387

There is too much going on here for this to be about one man

There is even a missing DA who chose to investigate this.

Homosexual pedophile ring? Local chapter of NAMBLA members who found like-minded individuals to get together with?


5 posted on 12/17/2011 6:04:50 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: sillipuddi
I know this sounds like a bit of Monday morning QBing on my part, but I never had much use for Joe Paterno going back over 4 decades.

It does not surprise me that the student athletes of Penn States used to refer to Coach Paterno as 'the rat'. He would go out of his way to report any violations of curfew or other irregularities of behavior by the student team members to the Penn State Administration but gave Coach Sanduski a pass for years.

6 posted on 12/17/2011 6:05:09 PM PST by wmileo
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To: beebuster2000
In the testimony, Paterno said he "knew inappropriate action was taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster" after a meeting with then-graduate assistant Mike McQueary, who allegedly saw Sandusky sexually abusing a boy in a locker room shower the previous night, but did not inform police and waited at least a day to inform his boss, athletic director Tim Curley, because he "didn't want to interfere with their weekends." What can you say?
7 posted on 12/17/2011 6:07:57 PM PST by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: beebuster2000
Penn State should lose thier football program for ten years and help every kid on the team to get to whatever school they want to transfer to.
Why?
1) Paterno, although scummy as can be, is not the source of the problem - it is the whole of the Penn State culture that allows this to happen.
2) Send a message to every other NCAA program what can happen to them if they let something like this go on.
3) People (kids) are more important than things (football games).
8 posted on 12/17/2011 6:09:51 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

3) People (kids) are more important than things (football games).

AMEN!! I agree with the first 2 points also.


9 posted on 12/17/2011 6:32:06 PM PST by taterjay
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To: Mr. K

Yep....this is a Homosexual sex orgy ring——exactly like the Franklin-Cover-up. The normalization of homosexual activity is just the tip of the iceberg. They are attracted to boys....it is the age that they were abused and seduced into the behavior. It is learned behavior....as Afghanistan proves-—all the boys are sodomized and can’t wait to grow up to sodomize boys. It is learned and a Worldview-—prominent in Ancient Greece where boys were serenaded and seduced which was glorified in the Arts and Theater and in myths (Zeus, Ganymedes). Samurai did the same....the men used boys for sex every night. Nazi SS—Brownshirts were all sexual perverts including Hitler—he put known pederasts as the head of the Hitler Youth and they used boys for their sexual orgies. All these homosexual societies are brutal—hate or demean women and abuse boys.

Anyone who promotes the homosexual agenda is promoting Man/Boy sex. It has always existed together. All my research (5 years) has proven this. The Catholic Church is right—it is intrinsically disordered and it is caused in childhood with a disruption in sexual identity formation—children are fixated at an immature level where they will not be able to form a normal longterm relationship with the opposite sex.


10 posted on 12/17/2011 6:42:29 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: beebuster2000

Paterno needs to be thrown out of the hall of fame. Penn State needs to lose its football program forever. Both need to happen while Paterno is still alive. Perhaps then he will actually regret his roll in this pathetic affair.


11 posted on 12/17/2011 6:54:40 PM PST by Cdnexpat
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To: savagesusie

How what McQueary heard and saw could have stayed such a secret — or open secret — for years is horrifying. Even many (if not most) “chicken hawks” in the modern sad community show more consideration.


12 posted on 12/17/2011 7:02:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: beebuster2000
Sandusky retired from Paterno's staff a year later at the age of 55, but maintained an office in the Lasch Football Building and had "unlimited access to all football facilities," including the locker room. He also kept a parking pass, a university Internet account and a listing in the faculty directory.

In 2008, according to USA Today, Sandusky ended his involvement with the charitable program, The Second Mile, amid accusations by another adolescent male. As recently as 2009, he was still running an overnight football camp for children as young as 9 on Penn State's campus. He was still working out on campus as recently as October — after university officials had been called to testify in the investigation that ultimately led to Sandusky's arrest.

Amazing! Paterno knew all that too.

13 posted on 12/17/2011 7:24:13 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: beebuster2000

Did you read the part where Curley’s defense attorney is attempting to save her client by saying that because McQueary failed to convey the seriousness of what he’d seen to Paterno, the allegations subsequently came across as “not that serious” to Curley?


14 posted on 12/17/2011 7:31:57 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The Second Mile was founded in 1977 and I guarantee that Sandusky was molesting as far back as then. Probably before that-—but he needed a better source of boys who had no healthy male role models at home. Fatherless boys are always the most vulnerable-—so desperate for a father figure—yearning for a male to show them attention and love. The boys that I have known who were molested were living with a single mom.

People who donated to that organization (second mile) or represented it could have likely been involved. People that shushed up the story were probably in the Sex Ring. They usually surround themselves with like minded people and work at the same place and donate to the same organizations for continued supply of boys. Judges were involved—the DA disappeared—it had to be high up and rich connected homosexuals.

It is like the press hiding the identities of the producers who Corey Feldman wouldn’t name who was passing boys around. THEY NEED TO BE EXPOSED YESTERDAY—cuz THEY ARE STILL MOLESTING THE BOYS! It is learned behavior and they can not control their urges. They have no moral compass. It was shattered or never formed in childhood. They are monsters.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 7:47:46 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

Makes sense that “troubled” boys would make for easier picking, but I’m not sure it goes anywhere to overthink this. Molesters don’t go for just every boy, or they’d find themselves kicked in the you know what before long. They have gaydar.


16 posted on 12/17/2011 7:53:15 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

In Ancient Rome and Afghanistan, they go for the best looking boys—the attractive ones. Depends what worldview the boys grow up with— and how they have connected with healthy males role models—societies that don’t encourage pederasty and homosexuality.

When young boys have artificial home life—no healthy male role model who care for them—they will not be “normal”. They usually have very low self-esteem and loathing for self. They feel little worth. They also are filled with anger at the world.

They learn to love themselves and have normal sexual identity formation by identifying with a healthy male role model who cares for them and teaches them what maleness is—but that male has to affirm him and teach him that he is important and has dignity—he does that by loving him.

Children who don’t have a healthy relationship with a male-—whether female or male, have major problems in future healthy long term relationships. Documented by the psychiatrist in England, Theodore Dalrymple. It is not an accident that fatherless boys are not normal—they have very low self esteem, have high level of anger, and tend to hate themselves (their maleness).


17 posted on 12/17/2011 8:44:44 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

Distant fathers do make growing up as a man difficult for many, not all boys. You’re telling us nothing substantial that NARTH doesn’t already know. (http://www.narth.org)

I’m skeptical about what “best looking” might be because this is such a cultural metric. I think molesters have gaydar and use it to protect themselves and minimize disappointments.


18 posted on 12/17/2011 8:54:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I am just referring to the Myths of Zeus and Ganymedes —the boy’s beauty led Zeus to kidnap him so he could rape the boy. That desire for beautiful boys is in a lot of Greek literature.

Afghanistan has the same proclivities—the beautiful boys are put into their sodomy harems. All beautiful—good looking boys are coveted and fought over. The behavior is acculturated....and boys are seduced into that behavior and those boys express great excitement to grow up and have their own harem of boys to sodomize. The hatred of women is learned—no different than learning homosexuality. It is child abuse and a destroying the normal and natural formation of sexual identity formation. It is learned.

Having no decent male role model is a distortion of the boy’s worldview and stunts his ease with males and puts him at great risk. It does the same with girls and their future long term relationships won’t exist or are extremely unhealthy.


19 posted on 12/17/2011 9:08:40 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: beebuster2000

Charge ‘em all.

I went to a private southern high school that was considered “the best of the best” in soccer; multiple state championships, etc. When it was discovered that the coach was raping his adoptive daughter (after she had a mental breakdown), players parents actually put up for his defense.


20 posted on 12/17/2011 9:26:41 PM PST by Sky Slug
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A bit more on the Sandusky (and who knows who else) homosexual pedophile septic tank. Paterno knew. Many knew. No one stopped him. That's the short version. And anyone who knew and didn't make sure that he was stopped, is an accessory. Good comments on the thread, too.

21 posted on 12/17/2011 10:31:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: savagesusie
Yep....this is a Homosexual sex orgy ring——exactly like the Franklin-Cover-up. The normalization of homosexual activity is just the tip of the iceberg. They are attracted to boys....it is the age that they were abused and seduced into the behavior. It is learned behavior....as Afghanistan proves-—all the boys are sodomized and can’t wait to grow up to sodomize boys. It is learned and a Worldview-—prominent in Ancient Greece where boys were serenaded and seduced which was glorified in the Arts and Theater and in myths (Zeus, Ganymedes). Samurai did the same....the men used boys for sex every night. Nazi SS—Brownshirts were all sexual perverts including Hitler—he put known pederasts as the head of the Hitler Youth and they used boys for their sexual orgies. All these homosexual societies are brutal—hate or demean women and abuse boys.

Anyone who promotes the homosexual agenda is promoting Man/Boy sex. It has always existed together. All my research (5 years) has proven this. The Catholic Church is right—it is intrinsically disordered and it is caused in childhood with a disruption in sexual identity formation—children are fixated at an immature level where they will not be able to form a normal longterm relationship with the opposite sex.

Your comments are so excellent. Are you on either of the ping lists I do? I wish you would be just so I can make sure I read your comments!

22 posted on 12/17/2011 10:36:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

I am still studying up on philosophy and psychology and the Supreme Court. The evil press and Hollywood are getting to me, though.

I am WAITING for those producers in Hollywood to be outed by the PRESS (like they do the homosexual priests)—those millionaires who were raping the Corey actors—Feldman and Haims. They need to be in jail yesterday!!!! It is another big child sex ring based in Hollywood with millionaires and billionaires—the same people trying to normalize vile, destructive behaviors 24/7 to children. People don’t understand how sick their worldview is—they can NOT be moral—it is a ruse—and they sugar coat the ugliness—even Milk celebrated in SCHOOLS was a pederast!!! BUT that is what their end game is——man/boy sex.

So many people believe just absurd things—no common sense whatsoever. We really need to take back education. These kid’s minds are being destroyed with stupid, irrational stuff. Sad. Such a waste.


23 posted on 12/17/2011 11:24:38 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
Here's one aspect that hasn't been mentioned at all..

Sandusky's FATHER was a long time rec center director in a small town, working mainly with young boys. Studies have shown that some 90% of child molesters were themselves molested as children.

This is NOT a defense of Sandusky, please don't misunderstand..but I'd wager that his dad was a pedophile, that he abused his son as a child, and the tragic cycle continued.

I don't believe we've heard anything from Sandusky's adopted sons...but then, they probably don't want to say anything now..

24 posted on 12/18/2011 5:33:17 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: savagesusie
Here's one aspect that hasn't been mentioned at all..

Sandusky's FATHER was a long time rec center director in a small town, working mainly with young boys. Studies have shown that some 90% of child molesters were themselves molested as children.

This is NOT a defense of Sandusky, please don't misunderstand..but I'd wager that his dad was a pedophile, that he abused his son as a child, and the tragic cycle continued.

I don't believe we've heard anything from Sandusky's adopted sons...but then, they probably don't want to say anything now..

25 posted on 12/18/2011 5:33:17 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: ken5050

I have thought about this too. I wonder if you are right. Is this why Jerry doesn’t seem to “get it”? Why doesn’t he understand the question...”are you sexually attracted to boys?” Anyone else would quickly answer “no!”, but he had to mull it over again and again. Only when prompted by his lawyer does he remember to say “No, I’m not sexually attracted to boys.”

In one part of his mind, he knows society doesn’t accept his version of attraction, because he stopped his behavior when confronted with an eyewitness (ie. McQueary, and then also other coaches who walked in on him with Victim #1). However, when no one else is watching, he thinks this perverted behavior is normal. It is disgusting and painfully obvious that he is a homosexual pedophile!


26 posted on 12/18/2011 9:22:04 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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Kill the Penn State football program, erase the name of Paterno from public view, salt the earth and never mention the sport on campus again.

There are no words for the moral and criminal acts committed in the name a god damned game

27 posted on 12/18/2011 12:06:17 PM PST by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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To: ken5050

Thank you for your post. Early childhood is crucial—it will determine all future relationships. The Attachment Theory has been around since the 50’s and it is highly reliable.

All animal studies show that abuse of new born animals produces all sorts of pathologies—unnatural perverse behaviors, including the inability to reproduce and abnormal sexual acts and super aggressive behavior.

Un-nurtured (abused) females will not nurture their offspring—will treat them cruelly and abuse them. It is all learned behavior.

I am sure Sandusky was abused as a child (which doesn’t excuse his evil acts, now that he is an adult). As a psychologist said in his book, “Without Conscience”—all psychopaths had traumatic early childhood. It is not surprising that they do the evil they do as adults.

What is surprising (and a miracle) is the fact that some children who ARE brutalized—have traumatic childhoods can grow up into very productive, good human beings. But, I am afraid that most abused children end up like Charles Manson and Gacy and Harry Hays—all were sodomized as children and their realities and worldview==the way they looked at human beings—was very sick and unnatural.


28 posted on 12/18/2011 3:40:39 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

More placemark for reading tomorrow.

Your comments are among the best on FR, hands down.


29 posted on 12/19/2011 10:17:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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