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Ron Paul Goes Full Metal Truther
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Posted on 12/10/2011 3:53:36 PM PST by mnehring

I’ve been waiting for quite a while for Ron Paul to just come out and admit he’s a 9/11 truther. Frankly, I thought it would happen a long time before now. It has taken so long, in fact, that I had started to doubt whether he would ever do it. However, I guess his Iowa polling numbers must have him feeling his oats, because he finally let slip (apologies to those who cannot view the video in IE, we are working to fix the technical issue. Original video may be found here):

And it’s… just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately, before there was any assessment, there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq. So the war drums beat…

Perfect. Just great. Remember that the less crazy truthers out there don’t get bogged down in scientific nonsense like “fire can’t melt steel.” They don’t necessarily believe that the Bush administration actually put bombs in the WTC to help it come down (although they’re not precisely ruling it out). What they DO believe is that the U.S. government was warned by the Israelis/Saudis/French/whoever that the attacks were coming and deliberately ignored it because they wanted 9/11 to happen so they could go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Ron Paul has now moved from saying that 9/11 was our fault (which was despicable enough) to now saying that it’s something our government actually wanted to happen. Put this up there with Ron Paul’s belief that Southeast Asia got much better after we left Vietnam (a viewpoint doubtless shared by millions of massacred Southeast Asians – but hey, at least we trade with Vietnam now) on the all time list of Ron Paul’s contemptible and publicly-expressed beliefs. Add to this the fact that Ron Paul is a liar and a hypocrite on spending, who has built a career larding up appropriations bills with pork for his home district and then casting meaningless votes against their final passage, and I have to confess that I don’t really see the appeal of Ron Paul to Iowa voters. Well, the Republican ones, at least.



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1 posted on 12/10/2011 3:53:42 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

This, and Rand Paul’s childish and deliberately misleading rant about Newt this week have taken the Paul family down several notches in my book (and I’ve always liked Rand and grudgingly respected Ron).

They have proven themselves just as cynical and just as willing to mislead and obfuscate and play to the lesser instincts of some voters as any other damned politician in Washington. Very disappointing, because there is a lot of good in what their main message is.


2 posted on 12/10/2011 3:57:22 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: mnehring

Ron Paul would have us paying the jizyah to Tehran.


3 posted on 12/10/2011 4:00:16 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: mnehring

Channeling his inner Larouche?


4 posted on 12/10/2011 4:02:08 PM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: mnehring

He’s not the nice, old patriotic grandfather many think he is.


5 posted on 12/10/2011 4:03:59 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

100% agree with all views stated.


6 posted on 12/10/2011 4:08:14 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: mnehring

Ron Paul! Get LOST! We don’t need or want you; YOU JERK!


7 posted on 12/10/2011 4:12:46 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: mnehring

The crazy uncle in the attic is going to start objecting to being compared to Ron Paul.

Why isn’t he asking why the US Taxpayers had to pay out billion$ to the 3000 families involved in 9/11. If your neighbor dies tomorrow will you pay his house off? Didn’t think so, but we did for those people and a lot more. WHY?


8 posted on 12/10/2011 4:14:10 PM PST by MrKatykelly
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To: mnehring

How any sane person could consider Paul presidential material is way beyond me.


9 posted on 12/10/2011 4:16:13 PM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: mnehring

F U R P!


10 posted on 12/10/2011 4:17:18 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: trisham

His “followers” are either NO DIFFERENT or smart like a rock! The first description fits those I have known, with a bit of the second thrown in for good measure.


11 posted on 12/10/2011 4:30:15 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: Old Sarge
F U R P! Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07

I for one think Free Republic is long overdue for a Paul Purge (as was done with the Rudyites). The Paulbots are increasingly spamming threads as we near the Iowa caucuses, stifling a real discussion of the issues.

12 posted on 12/10/2011 4:30:51 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks mnehring.
Ron Paul has now moved from saying that 9/11 was our fault (which was despicable enough) to now saying that it's something our government actually wanted to happen. Put this up there with Ron Paul's belief that Southeast Asia got much better after we left Vietnam (a viewpoint doubtless shared by millions of massacred Southeast Asians -- but hey, at least we trade with Vietnam now) on the all time list of Ron Paul's contemptible and publicly-expressed beliefs.

13 posted on 12/10/2011 4:36:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mnehring

Did the small cabal of neocons in the Bush adminstration cynically and opportunistically (in the tradition of Rahm “no crisis is worth wasting” Emanuel use 9-11 to attack the secular Iraq which had nothing to do with 9-11? Of course, they did! Of course, it is also a slimny smear to argue that pointing out that simple fact makes RP a truther e.g. an advocate of the view that the U.S. government intentionally murdered thousands of Americans on 9-11. If that is your claim, then prove it!


14 posted on 12/10/2011 4:38:06 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The true cynics are the neocons who used 9-11 as a pretext to get us into a war, even though the secular Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11. BTW, how’s that pro-Iran fundamentalist regime in Baghdad working out for you?


15 posted on 12/10/2011 4:40:55 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: X-spurt

His “followers” are just that: brain dead, non-thinking “followers”


16 posted on 12/10/2011 4:44:35 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: X-spurt

Imho, his followers are mostly interested in making marijuana legal and avoiding military service. Also, imho, he doesn’t care who they are or why they support him; he just wants to stay in power.


17 posted on 12/10/2011 4:46:04 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Captain Kirk
The true cynics are the neocons who used 9-11 as a pretext to get us into a war...

The true idiots are those who believe that Saddam was not working to destroy America. If given the lattitude he would have received under Barack Hussein Obama, he would have succeeded.

You sir, are a dangerous idiot.

18 posted on 12/10/2011 4:46:52 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: All

I don’t know what to think - or who to trust, any longer. Somehow, all these conflicting views of reality seem like a cyber-repeat of the tower of Babel.

I do trust God, Your will be done.

And I wonder if he will destroy the internet, which I love, because it is like living a great library, but it could so easily become Satan’s playground, you know?


19 posted on 12/10/2011 4:49:01 PM PST by jacquej
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To: Captain Kirk

Long overdue truther, druggie, Ron Paul nut job ZOT!


20 posted on 12/10/2011 4:50:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: re_nortex
I for one think Free Republic is long overdue for a Paul Purge (as was done with the Rudyites). The Paulbots are increasingly spamming threads as we near the Iowa caucuses, stifling a real discussion of the issues.

Dude.....I'm not a Paul supporter, but that is one sad statement. Sure, let's purge the Libertarians, the Paul supporters, Romney supporters and everyone else. FR will be a great echo chamber, like harvard and yale, where all you newbies can sing hymms and argue about Sarah Palin's shoe color. Really, if you aren't comfy with debate, try some other pass time......like reading Mein Kampf....

21 posted on 12/10/2011 4:50:32 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: All

I don’t know what to think - or who to trust, any longer. Somehow, all these conflicting views of reality seem like a cyber-repeat of the tower of Babel.

I do trust you, God, and Your will be done.

And I wonder if God will destroy the internet, which I love, because it is like living in a great library on my desk, but it could so easily become Satan’s playground, you know?


22 posted on 12/10/2011 4:50:54 PM PST by jacquej
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To: re_nortex

I would agree with you. The Paultards are getting a little out of hand, they’re like mayflies.


23 posted on 12/10/2011 4:52:24 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Admin Moderator

OZONE!


24 posted on 12/10/2011 4:53:50 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: ScreamingFist

The Zot line that is crossed usually is repeated Trutherism, racism, threats, vulgar language, or promoting liberal causes or candidates. Not just for the sake of liking a certain person (unless they are trying to use the site to advertise for overt Liberals of course).

In the case of the Zot! on this thread, this was a long time coming for a truther who was warned many times, even by Jim himself.


25 posted on 12/10/2011 4:54:34 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Captain Kirk; 50mm; darkwing104; TheOldLady



26 posted on 12/10/2011 4:55:22 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: RedMDer; trisham

Both you are right as rain.

Per SOP they’ll make a lot of noise and may show up in Iowa, but that’ll mostly be the end of it.... thankfully.


27 posted on 12/10/2011 4:55:39 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: Admin Moderator
Long overdue truther, druggie, Ron Paul nut job ZOT!

Pfffff. I've read a lot worse, I guess the purge is on....

28 posted on 12/10/2011 4:55:51 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Admin Moderator
Long overdue truther, druggie, Ron Paul nut job ZOT!

THANK YOU!

The air is always fresher after a good lightning storm has done its cleansing.


29 posted on 12/10/2011 4:58:10 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: mnehring
The look on W's face when Andy Card whispered in his ear that a second plane had hit the second tower was one that not even the world's greatest actor could pull off. 911 Truthers are nuts.
30 posted on 12/10/2011 4:59:18 PM PST by JPG (Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.)
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To: mnehring
And it’s… just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately, before there was any assessment, there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq. So the war drums beat…

OK, he's not just a "nutty uncle in the attic" to me now. That is so patently offensive I feel like punching his nose through the back of his skull.

31 posted on 12/10/2011 4:59:34 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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Darn, he was always good for a laugh being the stereotypical paultard. Oh well, I won’t miss him.


32 posted on 12/10/2011 5:00:06 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Captain Kirk

Saying that Ron Paul’s position on 9-11 Trutherism is despicable is not the same thing as supporting any - let alone all - of our Middle East policies.

And I am saying that Paul’s truther stance is despicable. That is all I am saying.


33 posted on 12/10/2011 5:01:59 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Captain Kirk; Arrowhead1952; darkwing104; Darksheare; 50mm; TheOldLady; Allegra
A truther and a '98-er rides the lightning!

And the storm is rising...


34 posted on 12/10/2011 5:03:31 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Captain Kirk; C. Edmund Wright
Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11

You are a nut and a liar. Although ABC has since pulled the video, it may still exist at this link.

1999 VIDEO: ABC News Report Linking Saddam Hussein And Osama Bin Laden

35 posted on 12/10/2011 5:06:03 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Admin Moderator; Captain Kirk
Long overdue truther, druggie, Ron Paul nut job ZOT!

Thank you, Admin Mod! This is an event worth celebrating. He was a spam monkey deluxe.

36 posted on 12/10/2011 5:06:13 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: ScreamingFist
Really, if you aren't comfy with debate, try some other pass time.

"Free Republic is NOT a liberal debating society. We are conservative activists dedicated to defending our GOD-GIVEN rights, defending our constitution, defending our republic and defending our traditional American way of Life."

Speaking only for myself, I don't come here for debate but for the Conservative activism and the strongly pro-God stance. Where else on the web are there anything at all like FR's Prayer Threads? Free Republic is an inspirational website for me, rising above the din of CNN, Fox News, NBC, Google, Yahoo and other liberal organizations.

37 posted on 12/10/2011 5:06:13 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Captain Kirk; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
Good riddance to Captain Kirk, RuPaul 9-11 Truther.

To be added or removed from the Viking Kitty/ZOT Ping List, FReepmail Darkwing104 or 50mm.

38 posted on 12/10/2011 5:08:41 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: ScreamingFist
Pfffff. I've read a lot worse, I guess the purge is on....

There is no purge, we've always banned 911 truthers. This guy lasted this long because of his signup date.

39 posted on 12/10/2011 5:12:33 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: 50mm

40 posted on 12/10/2011 5:16:11 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: mnehring

The Tea Party doesn’t agree with Ron Paul on foreign policy.


41 posted on 12/10/2011 5:16:58 PM PST by Politics4US
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To: re_nortex
Speaking only for myself, I don't come here for debate but for the Conservative activism and the strongly pro-God stance.

I see. So if my opinion differs from yours, I should be booted from FR. This is called an Echo Chamber.

"Free Republic is NOT a liberal debating society."

Well duh....we're having a debate as I type.....am I to liberal for you, do I need the admin boot too?

42 posted on 12/10/2011 5:17:31 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist
So if my opinion differs from yours, I should be booted from FR.

Since you have seniority over me, I have no say whatsoever in that. And my opinion is of little, if any, consequence -- it's how the boss sees things that count.

43 posted on 12/10/2011 5:23:43 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Your call.


44 posted on 12/10/2011 5:24:58 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: ScreamingFist; Jim Robinson

You should address that question to Jim.


45 posted on 12/10/2011 5:25:19 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: mnehring

What a 21st century schizoid man. Good on economic issues, but really demented on foreign policy. 9/11 was an inside job, wow.


46 posted on 12/10/2011 5:26:32 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: Captain Kirk

I sure won’t miss your straw man arguments, sophistry, red herrings and complete idiocy. Oddy Oats, dipstick!


47 posted on 12/10/2011 5:29:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Admin Moderator
There is no purge, we've always banned 911 truthers. This guy lasted this long because of his signup date.

Yea, whatever. Kirk was an interesting poster, he sometimes had posts that required thought to dispute....now he is gone. I'll just join hands and sing kumbaya with re_nortex....

48 posted on 12/10/2011 5:30:04 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Admin Moderator

Amen.


49 posted on 12/10/2011 5:31:07 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
You should address that question to Jim.

Fair enough. Jim, why are your admins booting old timers? Kirk was goofy but harmless.

50 posted on 12/10/2011 5:36:11 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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