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Newt and the Governing Class ^ | 12/8/2011 | Steve McCann

Posted on 12/08/2011 12:14:45 PM PST by TBBT

I just returned from the belly of the beast, Washington, D.C. There is not a more parochial or insular city in the country. While there, I had a conversation with two members of what can be described only as the Republican establishment, one in the print media and the other a K Street lobbyist. In short order, the conversation turned to Newt Gingrich and his surge to the top of the ladder.

There is no one more reviled in Washington than Newt. If anyone believes he is part of the establishment, he or she is mistaken. In fact, it would not be a terribly great stretch to say some in the Republican wing of the governing class would prefer to see Obama re-elected than Newt in the Oval Office. However, the vast majority of this class are now in a panic as the preordained choice, Mitt Romney, is truly threatened by the rabble in flyover country constantly looking for anyone but Romney. These people have settled, so it seems, on Gingrich. The increasing volume of commentary of the Beltway insiders and attendant vitriol toward Newt has become a near-hysterical tidal wave rehashing and embellishing Newt's supposed failings and personal "baggage."

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KEYWORDS: establishment; newt; romney
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To: surfer
To compare Gingrich and Reagan in the same sentence exposes what you don’t know.

On the contrary, it shows what I DO know. I know that Reagan led the Reagan Revolution, aided by Gingrich in the 1980s, and that Newt continued the conservative vision with the Republican Revolution that started in 1994. Newt was the architect of that, and every single item on the Contract with American was checked off in the 1st 100 days of Newt's speakership. So, no, I don't have to go back more than 30 years to find something good Newt did. All I have to do is look at the last time he was in office. In case your calculator broken, the mid-90's is actually less than 30 years ago.

If you can't give credit where credit is due, that is a problem with your honesty, integrity and/or intelligence, not mine. I am just stating fact.

But, please, go ahead and humor me - what living conservative has DONE more for conservatism? Yeah, forget the talking points and platitudes. Look at the RECORD. It's not even close, which is why I'm assuming you haven't come up with a name thus far. There is no living conservative that has DONE more in office than Newt Gingrich. That is FACT. Again, it's not even close, and it's not arguable.

He was extremely effective as SOH during the Republican Revolution. I've already detailed all that he accomplished in a previous lengthy post. JimRob said it was a "must read". I'm afraid though, it was a waste of time since the very next day you see new idiots making the same lame arguments that are laughably false.

I give up. Some people can't be schooled. Yes, Newt isn't perfect, so he must be a RINO. Forget all that he accomplished for the conservative cause the last time when he was in power. All that matters is that he sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi. *YAWN*.

You Newt haters, feel free to continue in your delusions and ignorance. Luckily, it looks like enough conservatives have the brains vote for someone that can knock out Romney, and then beat Obama like a red-headed step-kid.

Cry and stomp your feet all you want. Gingrich is a brilliant political strategist, helping Reagan in 1980 and 1984, then leading the GOP Revolution in 1994, kicking asses all the way, and he's about to do the same to Romney and Obama. I don't know why so many supposed conservative "experts" and pundits worry that Newt will self-destruct. Uh, he did manage to win a few elections, helped Reagan get elected twice with brilliant strategy, was the author of most brilliant election stragegy - Contract with America - in memory. Yeah, we don't want THAT guy being our nominee! LOL

Get on board, get out of the way, or get run over. Makes no difference to me.
51 posted on 12/08/2011 3:34:54 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Tallguy

The dem and press dirty tactics which were so successful for years don’t work anymore. Not since the rest of America has been exposed to Obama, Pelosi, dem house and senate and the Tea Party. The lies are ridiculed now. If Newt did something illegal during the recent past which can be proven, ok. Nothing short of that will cause us to throw him over, certainly not media and enemies rehashing the past which was mostly their lies.

52 posted on 12/08/2011 3:38:35 PM PST by maranatha
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To: maranatha

Please understand I included Tea Party with the scum because American was exposed to people rising up and speaking truth to the lies and dirty tricks.

53 posted on 12/08/2011 3:48:27 PM PST by maranatha
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To: Walrus

I know.

54 posted on 12/08/2011 4:46:50 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: bridgemanusa

I accept it as a reality. However, there will be many of Newt’s new best friends who abandon him as quicly as they ran to him.

I agree with you that the most important thing, after getting Obama defeated, is to enlarge the number of conservatives in Congress.

However, there again, I won’t be shocked if they are either co-opted by Newt’s “intellectual conservatism” or at constant loggerheads with him while we lose precious time.

And, btw, I don’t conclude that “reaching out to Dems” is a benign political phrase with Newt. I don’t care so much about what he says as about what he does — and he has done some hummdingers.

I don’t trust him at all, which is why I say consider at least kicking up a little fuss before going all in with the guy.

55 posted on 12/08/2011 4:55:42 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: RobbyS
Does New have the stomach? I don't mean the self-confidence, but the courage to go against elite opinion when it matters. Neither Bush really had that. Reagan did.

I have no question that he has the stomach to do whatever it is he determines to do.

I think the question is: does he have the gut instinct to determine what it is that conservatism demands him to do?

Bush, for example, went against elite opinion by trying every which way to reign in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, including in 2005 introducing legislation to strengthen regulation. This would have gone a long way toward helping to minimize the housing crash.

The Dems fought Bush's effort tooth and nail -- and so did Newt Gingrich, the man who took millions of taxpayer dollars in consulting fees from Freddie Mac.

I find that inexplicable and politically unforgivable.

It doesn't matter how much courage a person has if he isn't being courageous about doing the right (conservative) things.

56 posted on 12/08/2011 5:05:16 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: RobbyS
Palin is not capable of finely crafted speeches.

Oh, and I disagree with you here. She has given some of the most authentically inspirational speeches in recent political history. And that's my definition of "finely crafted"!

57 posted on 12/08/2011 5:07:21 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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Give me a break...spend some time in the Library of Congress Thomas Database and learn about the bills Gingrich co-sponsored with Pelosi.

He did 10X’s as much for the liberals and progressives then HE EVER did for conservatives.

Its 1775 again glad to see you would have picked the Tories to work with instead of standing with the real Patriots that made America happen!

58 posted on 12/08/2011 5:11:15 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: fightinJAG

Newt has been compared with Churchill, and Churchill was never a Tory. During the campaign of 1945, Churchill was curiouslly uneffective, His heart was not in it, because thought he despised socialism, he was in favor of the welfare state.

59 posted on 12/08/2011 7:50:40 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: org.whodat

Believe whatever you want. As I said before.

60 posted on 12/08/2011 10:35:08 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: fightinJAG

Trust me.. he is far from my first choice. It’s getting pretty sad when we are constantly forced to support the least worse of all evils.

Is this the best we can do?

61 posted on 12/09/2011 6:29:35 AM PST by bridgemanusa (loan MA Conservative)
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To: bridgemanusa

If there’s ever a year where something unexpected could happen, this would be it.

That said, it sure seems like the Newt phenom took the wind out of the sails of the Tea Party movement, at least in terms of how it was shaping the debate and the voter intensity.

I have said from the beginning that any candidate who is not completely focused on massive tax reform (and the follow-on spending cuts/entitlement reform) is simply not addressing our country’s survival.

Yes, Newt has a plan out there, but no one is talking about it — it hasn’t captured anyone’s imagination — and, to be honest, I get the sense it’s viewed as the same-old, same-old. Sort of like the “plan” to cut spending by “rooting out fraud, waste and abuse” — blah blah blah.

62 posted on 12/09/2011 2:29:08 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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