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Gingrich leads, but Paul most likely to beat Obama in latest Iowa poll
Daily Caller ^ | 12/5/11 | By C.J. Ciaramella

Posted on 12/05/2011 1:30:37 PM PST by Bokababe

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To: RobertClark

I see you are new to FR. I have been here a bit longer. I try to keep most of my post to the subject of cheese or the random Moose. However I agree with you. I am a 71 year old grandfather. I am not in an institution. I am still working full time as a consultant, and thanks to the fact that the company I contract with being afraid to hire, I am having the best earning years of my life. That said, I do have grandchildren that I would die for. This country in in big trouble and I have become a Paulbot. If I am willing to die for my grandkids, I can easily take the CR@P my fellow Freepers can dish out. The more I see the way this election is going, the more convinced I am this is our last chance, short of war, to save it. I am now part of the mile deep, inch wide, support for the crazy man. I don’t know what line you have to cross to be Zotted, and if this crosses that line, than so be it. If that is the case, my last request would be for my fellow Freepers to just consider if things are really as bad for America as we all seem to be crying about, and if they are, how in the H@11 can you continue to so glibly spout off about the “dope cracy, foreign policy nut”. At this point in time I consider the FED and Washington Elites to be a clear and present danger to my grandkids.


21 posted on 12/05/2011 2:49:51 PM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: RobertClark
I think Ron Paul would do considerable damage to the Dems. Their base - likely not - they are true blue libs and will rot in hell as such. However, there are A LOT of Dems that are very Libertarian and would set aside their liberalism for a Libertarian acendency.

Of course he would. And people here can take all the pot shots they want, but the fact is that no one under fifty who isn't already a hardcore Republican is going to vote for Newt Gingrich, no one urban (not from Texas) is going to vote for Rick Perry. So who's left? Mitt Romney or Ron Paul. Mitt's owned by the bankers and the globalists.

So I pick The Crazy One and so will a lot of people, given the chance.

22 posted on 12/05/2011 2:51:32 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?
Exactly right, pay attention to who the MSM is TALKING UP.

On MSNBC and Morning Joe, Newt, Perry, and Bachmann are demonized, laughed at, and disparaged (Newt more than the others, but that is a measure to some degree of the animus Scarborough has for Newt on a personal level).

On the other hand, Mitt and Paul are their favorite Republicans. Mika "likes" Ron Paul and she "likes" Mitt. She loathes Newt and thinks she is smarter than Perry or Bachmann (LOL).

According the the wonks on MSNBC (purely on a "non-partisan" level, of course) Mitt is the only candidate the Republicans should run, because he stands a chance of beating Obama.
23 posted on 12/05/2011 2:51:57 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Gadsden1st

Sorry for the double post.


24 posted on 12/05/2011 2:52:36 PM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: SumProVita

Laugh all you want - everyone i know who is on the fence and typically apolitical likes RP because he does not come across like a corrupt sleazebag like Newt or romney .


25 posted on 12/05/2011 2:57:18 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

The status quo, on either side of the Welfare-Warfare Bandwagon, are scared to death of Ron Paul.

Their only weapons are to ignore him, demogogue him, and pretend he isn’t viable.

The only problem with those strategies is that the truth is a very stubborn thing. Eventually the masses start to see through it and then turn on those who have betrayed them all these years.

Ron Paul has already won.

He has everyone talking about Ending the Fed, ending interventionism, abolishing entire federal departments, competing currencies in gold and silver, etc.

Five years ago, if you mentioned those things, you were called a ‘kook’. Now it is mainstream because of his tireless efforts.

Moreover, it is the young and independents who are really getting it. That is the future of this country.

The tired old Welfare-Warfare Republicrats along with their Warfare-Welfare Dempublican cousins’ days are numbered. They will be consigned to the dustbin of history and we will one day thank Ron Paul for starting the r3VOLution.


26 posted on 12/05/2011 3:16:43 PM PST by Iggles Phan
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To: Zathras

No offense;
but we both know that if he is dead he will undoubtedly be voting for the dem.


27 posted on 12/05/2011 3:17:15 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: JaguarXKE

You certainly will not get banned from FR for a negativive view of Dr. Paul.
Get real!


28 posted on 12/05/2011 3:19:48 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: RobertClark

“I think Ron Paul would do considerable damage to the Dems.”

No flames here...I think you’re spot on. Alot of Paulbots are OWSers. I think he’d pull more votes away from Obama than the Repub nominee if he goes 3rd party.


29 posted on 12/05/2011 3:23:43 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: GlockThe Vote
. . . likes RP because he does not come across like a corrupt sleazebag like Newt or romney .

No, he comes across as a completely insane lunatic who hasn't idea one how to handle foriegn policy, and lies about his non-pork resume.

30 posted on 12/05/2011 3:24:29 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Laugh all you want - everyone i know who is on the fence and typically apolitical likes RP because he does not come across like a corrupt sleazebag like Newt or romney ."

You mean because Ron Paul doesn't come off looking like the complete sleazebags these two do?

I almost lost my lunch when I heard Trump say that the presidential candidates would be competing for "Trump's endorsement". Made me wonder whether the runner-ups get a free copy of Trump's new book on politics, by coincidence -- (wink, wink) released just today? So glad that Newt could help "his good friend' launch the book at the same time he hid behind the Donald to get in a few shots at his rival.

31 posted on 12/05/2011 3:42:34 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Pravious

Tell me why he is a lunatic.


32 posted on 12/05/2011 3:42:42 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: rbg81

“Gingrich leads, but Paul most likely to beat Obama in latest Iowa poll”

I think it should read:

Paul is the ONLY candidate who can beat Obama.

Why?

Romney, Gingrich, et al, are all globalists, big government folks, have no spending reduction plan, and pander to the crowd on the issue-du-jeur. They are for NAFTA open borders, they love Nato, EU, Seato, and any other entangling alliance that weakens America and rips us off.

With those credentials, why not vote for Obama? (about 95% the same platform)

If you want four more years of Obama, then select Romney or Gringrich as your Republican candidate.


33 posted on 12/05/2011 3:43:20 PM PST by Iggles Phan
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To: Iggles Phan

Sure, you can infiltrate FreeRepublic and tell folks how they ought to vote. Nobody will suspect anything.


34 posted on 12/05/2011 3:47:22 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: GlockThe Vote

I’m still chuckling...

;-)

...until I think about his ideas on the subject of foreign policy and then I realize that I need to pray for the man.


35 posted on 12/05/2011 3:48:37 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Iggles Phan

Yeah, I think you’re right on there.

The other thing that the GOP has a track record of nominating people who are programmed to lose. Dole and McCain are the two cases in point. Both these guys got good press, until the GE, when the MSM turned on them like a bad penny. I think Gingrich would get much the same treatment.

I think Paul would take a lot (if not most) of the Youth vote from Obama and most of the Independents too. Unfortunately, I think a lot of Republicans would also stay home on Election day. Personally, I’m really uncomfortable with some of Paul’s foreign policy beliefs.


36 posted on 12/05/2011 3:54:37 PM PST by rbg81
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To: SumProVita

What is wrong with his foreign policy?


37 posted on 12/05/2011 3:54:40 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: All
"Molotov" Mitchell over at WND did some great short video editorials on how and why he arrived at supporting Ron Paul. It's not just about "feelings" -- there is a logic to it -- and I agree

Sun Tzu's "Death Ground" and the Election.

For the Record: RP 101

Ron Paul on Israel.

38 posted on 12/05/2011 3:58:59 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Paul is a loon.


39 posted on 12/05/2011 3:59:58 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: old curmudgeon

“What is wrong with his foreign policy?”

Ohhhhh my.....


40 posted on 12/05/2011 4:12:04 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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