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The Gaffe That Almost Wasn't
Freedom Torch ^ | 11/18/11 | Todd Maxwell

Posted on 11/18/2011 9:43:45 AM PST by justsaynomore

The smear campaign against Cain continues

By now the internet, radio, television, and wagging tongues everywhere are all abuzz over the latest campaign blunder by Herman Cain. But is it really the gaffe everyone says it is? Or was it a selective editing job a la Ed Shultz?

Well, call me cynical, but I’ve seen enough media shenanigans to be suspicious of anything taken out of context and this definitely tripped my radar. In the clip that has gone viral (below), Cain does appear to be caught off-guard by a question on Libya, a topic he ought to have been ready for.

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My first reaction was to wonder how many clips like this land on editing room floors instead of online. In a world used to hyper-slick video and equally slick candidates, a moment of thought gathering can seem disastrous. Still, this isn’t about a some candidate’s “senior moment.” Rather, it is about a hatchet job gone awry.

This clip was released by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel along with the entire half-hour interview it was taken from. For my part, I think the whole interview is worth watching as Cain performs admirably. But for those who just want to get to the goods, skip ahead to about the 20 minute mark.

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What a difference a little context makes!

The clip that went viral begins with one reporter asking, "So, you agreed with President Obama on Libya or not?" Seems like a follow-up to a related question. But in the full length video, one can clearly see that Cain was responding to a question about Bush’s policy of promoting democracy abroad. Suddenly, the interviewer tosses up the question, turning it into one about Obama. He didn’t even ask a complete question.

Whatever Cain might have said would have been placed in context of his previous answer. No doubt to make some bizarro equivocation between Bush and Obama. Cain wasn't about to let himself get drawn in and instead tried lay down a different context before answering. When Cain says, “I just wanna make sure we’re talkin’ about the same thing before I say ‘Yes I agreed’ or ‘No, I didn’t agree,’” he is establishing the framework for his answer, not struggling to remember where Libya is on the map.

Did Cain fumble? Of course, he was lobbed a rotten toss. Could he have done something better with it? Hindsight usually tells us "yes." But does this so-called "gaffe" reveal a woeful lack of knowledge of foreign policy on Cain's part? Hardly.

Rather, it seems that this group of reporters thought they were setting up a clever “gotcha” moment that didn’t pan out. One reporter asks the Bush question and another suddenly shifts gears to Obama without touching the clutch. But their little "gotcha" setup didn't produce the desired results. So, robbed of the gaffe they thought they had so cleverly set up, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel was forced to run with Cain's pause as the next best thing.

The video is very amateurish, with lots of shuffling and ambient noise. MJS is a newspaper, so I'm not faulting that. But it does why the so-called pregnant pause was there at all. In the full interview, Cain can be seen and heard speaking freely and knowledgeably about Libya and a range of other topics, including collective bargaining, the economy, finance, ObamaCare, his support among women and African Americans, Occupy Wall Street, and much more. He is shown deftly fielding questions from at least four separate reporters and demonstrating that he is readily knowledgeable about every area he is quizzed on.

But when it comes to Libya, the reporters repeatedly try to put words into Cain’s mouth, (“So, you are saying…”) which he resists. When Cain seeks clarification to the Libya question, the reporter explaining even seems to have some difficulty. That's because Bush never got involved in Libya, so the supposed connection made no sense.

Besides, given how much attention was paid to Libya in the press, it’s downright ridiculous to think a presidential candidate would be so woefully prepared for the topic. Even prepared, the reporter’s vague inquiry would be difficult to answer. After all, in spite of how the story ended for Colonel Gaddafi, the Obama position on the matter changed almost daily as the late-colonel’s days were running out. Which of Obama’s positions was being referred to? That should set off buzzers in most people’s minds.

All the same, pundits of all stripes were quick to pounce in an attempt to ensure that the prophecy which states “no outsider shall be nominated” shall be fulfilled. Cain’s pause—routinely billed as being eleven seconds, but I time it at only eight—was taken as evidence that the presidential candidate doesn’t have a firm enough grasp of foreign policy issues to be commander-in-chief. Others used is as an excuse to drag up the sexual harassment allegations that went nowhere. One of the odder claims was that the entire GOP lineup is now toast. (Aren’t they even going to take a swing at Newt?)

Some conservative talkers declared the Cain-Train derailed, calling his flub an unforgivable embarrassment for the movement. Harder hits suggested that his campaign’s initial response—that Cain was tired—only indicates that Cain wouldn’t be able to handle the proverbial “4 am phone call.” Old attacks on the 9-9-9 plan were dusted off, though sounding hardly more convincing than before.

Of course, none of this would get the slightest credence if it weren’t for the fact that the media knows the electorate prefers appearances over substance. The question of context ought to be a natural one, but it’s not. Instead, a moment of thoughtful reflection, taking the care not to answer an important question blithely, gets contorted into evidence of shallowness and unpreparedness—precisely the opposite! Cain, ever the gentleman, seems to be taking the event in good humor, saying he is flattered that the media now scrutinizes his pauses since they cannot attack what he actually says. He may be the first candidate to actually be above the finger-pointing and name-calling that the current gaffe-master-in-chief so bemoaned four years ago.

The fact remains that Herman Cain is an intelligent and qualified outsider that the media--liberal and conservative alike--feels it is their duty to destroy. If it takes a few lies and misrepresentations to do it, so be it.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: gaffe; hermancain; libya
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EVERYONE should watch this.

Context makes ALL the difference.

1 posted on 11/18/2011 9:43:48 AM PST by justsaynomore
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To: K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; Publius772000; ...

Pinganator!

In other HC News this morning:

No Toaster for Herman Cain
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809403/posts

A Prayer for Herman Cain
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2808957/posts

Herman Cain says OWS out to “destroy” America
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809211/posts

Cain Focuses On Jobs In NH Visit - Cain Chokes Up When Discussing Wife, Faith (Tears)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809199/posts

Herman Cain receives Secret Service protection
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809153/posts


2 posted on 11/18/2011 9:44:59 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel was playing “Gotcha”. They hate Mark Block, and want to take down anyone associated with him.


3 posted on 11/18/2011 9:45:46 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: justsaynomore

When context is applied, Herman usually shows as the opposite of what the liberati herd folks to believe.


4 posted on 11/18/2011 9:46:10 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: justsaynomore

2 more:

Obama versus Cain: A Clash of Theological Proportions
http://townhall.com/columnists/harryrjacksonjr/2011/11/17/obama_versus_cain_a_clash_of_theological_proportions

Poll Shows Herman Cain Leads with Female Independent & Republican Voters
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809469/posts


5 posted on 11/18/2011 9:46:44 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

Thanks for posting this. It makes a great deal of sense.

Moreover, this was not intended to be a TV interview. It was a news interview for a NEWSPAPER. Presumably, they recorded it, supposedly, so as to get an accurate transcript of Cain’s remarks.

Instead, they carefully edited it, took it out of context, and pretended it was a gaffe. If Caine made a mistake, it was to allow them to make a video record of a newspaper interview. But it’s only a mistake if they twist and lie about it. Which, of course, they did.

Cain, from what I have seen, has more sense on the subject of Libya than most Republican politicians, who have shamelessly remained silent while Obama has ridden roughshod over the Constitution and fought the war on the wrong side, helping to put the Muslim fundamentalists in power all over North Africa. Cain seems to understand that. He is one of the very few Republicans who has been willing to say it.


6 posted on 11/18/2011 9:50:37 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.2)
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To: MHGinTN

“...Some conservative talkers declared the Cain-Train derailed,...”

Hew Hewett, on Tuesday evening radio, was declaring the Cain Train dead and over after the Libya interview. He played it a few times, rambling on and on about it.

You know...who the hell needs the Dems to smear us when we have “friends” of our own helping to take our candidates down...

So damned annoying.

I refuse to participate in skewering OUR guys - I absolutely refuse to provide ANY ammunition to the democrat/communist/socialist/liberal coalition in any way, shape, or form. I won’t aid and abet the enemy.

And I hate it when “our” side on the talk radio circuit and out here do it.

Go Herman!


7 posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:17 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
It is the spittlegeist


8 posted on 11/18/2011 9:57:10 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: All

The media is corrupt, dangerous, and evil. It’s going to get worse.


9 posted on 11/18/2011 9:57:20 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: justsaynomore

Just when I want to believe women’s intuition is sound and they instinctively trust Herman, I am reminded that too many females also supporter a sexual degenerate, sinkEmperor clintoon. But that was a very different stinking fish.


10 posted on 11/18/2011 9:58:50 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: NFHale
You know...who the hell needs the Dems to smear us when we have “friends” of our own helping to take our candidates down...

Hugh Hewitt has been ramming Mitt Romney down the throats of his listeners since 2007. I haven't considered him a "friend" since then.
11 posted on 11/18/2011 9:59:13 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: MHGinTN

“spittlegeist”

Ha! Excellent!


12 posted on 11/18/2011 10:00:54 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Cicero
Instead, they carefully edited it, took it out of context, and pretended it was a gaffe. If Caine made a mistake, it was to allow them to make a video record of a newspaper interview.

I don't know why anyone would allow himself to be videoed without someone on his own side (or even just a free standing tripod) making another video at the same time. Just imagine how many "carefully" edited 60 Minutes interviews would have to be thrown out if the interviewee could show that the question and the answer were mismatched through editing.

13 posted on 11/18/2011 10:10:01 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: mmichaels1970; MHGinTN

I think the talking heads are just running scared, thinking that Romney is the only viable candidate against ODouche.

Ultimately, WE will decide who OUR candidate will be, and we need do our damndest to make sure it’s the right person and best for the job. No repeat of John McCain.

As far as Hewett goes, I’ve not listened to him much, only a few times, and the times that I heard him, he seemed to be a Conservative. But that program, which I switched on on my way home from work, just frosted me. I found myself yelling at the radio in the car (yeah...I know...but TELL me you’ve NEVER done that too....hahah!).

To my mind, a real Conservative doesn’t ratf**k other Conservatives in the back. If it wasn’t what he was doing, it sure as hell seemed like it.

One Team, One Fight. The ENEMY is the liberal/democrat/communist/socialist coalition facing us, and always has been - with the emphasis on the “Liberal” because we have them on our side of the aisle as well.


14 posted on 11/18/2011 10:10:52 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Our collective mistake:


15 posted on 11/18/2011 10:13:29 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Ahh, Pogo!!! Remember it well.

But “we” aren’t the enemy.

Liberals amongst us are, and always have been.

They’re the ones who sneak down in the middle of the night and open the gates to let the barbarian hordes in ...sorta like they’re doing right now on the border...

...walk up and plant a big, wet sloppy kiss smack on the lips of a fat, cancer-ridden communist Venezualan dictator....

...or another kiss on the lips of a little ChiCom pr*ck in a businessman’s suit as he sells us down the river...

THAT’s the enemy, brother. And always has been.

WE’RE what makes this country work; THEY’VE spent all their lives trying to erase us.

And have NOT succeeded.

F*** ‘em.


16 posted on 11/18/2011 10:18:34 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: justsaynomore

bump.


17 posted on 11/18/2011 10:21:01 AM PST by ken21
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To: justsaynomore

Everyone should watch this, especially the sheeple who keep jumping on the GOP establishment & media bandwagon to knock Cain down a few notches. I marvel at my fellow Conservatives that are so quick to jump on Cain and refer to him with terms as “clueless or inept” solely based on short sound bites being spoon fed to them from the media. Cain is what he is: A self made successful businessperson and a political outsider who has made a big splash with his inspirational story and bold economic ideas but is understandably prone to making some Rookie mistakes on the campaign trail. If he does gets the nomination he will be a far improved Presidential candidate having been thouroughly vetted, like no other, in the Primaries.


18 posted on 11/18/2011 10:22:48 AM PST by 07Jack
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To: justsaynomore
We're all aware of this stuff these days. The MSM want the Democrats to bail out their bankrupt newspapers ~ they'd like for the Republicans to do that too but THEY KNOW we aren't going to do that ~ oh no ~ never.

Bankruptcy is the correct route to take to enable productive resources and personnel to be handed over to capable new managers.

If that means MSM reporters have to suck candidates into not speaking for 11 seconds, then that's going to happen.

Here's a trick ~ the RNC Chairman should assign a staffer to the duty of determining which MSM reporters MAY NOT interview Republican candidates.

Their names would be on a list for everyone to look at ~ and AVOID.

This would be kind of like Nixon or Obama's enemies list but you have to start somewhere.

19 posted on 11/18/2011 10:23:52 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: NFHale

Hence the mistake ... we assume these oh so earnest assassins are GOP. Even Romney’s slugs are not GOP, they’re romneybots. We also have a small squad of DNC operatives who saw how they could use the risingire in GOP and Tea Party folks to assassinate Sarah. Freepers can see that the enemy (the deviant media serving as propaganda arm of the DNC) works to dividie and then their commie demigods can conquer us. The promoters of the circular firing squad are workign for Romney and the DNC, wittingly or unwittingly. Johnnie seems to be unwittingly herded into their service.


20 posted on 11/18/2011 10:25:18 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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