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The Gaffe That Almost Wasn't
Freedom Torch ^ | 11/18/11 | Todd Maxwell

Posted on 11/18/2011 9:43:45 AM PST by justsaynomore

The smear campaign against Cain continues

By now the internet, radio, television, and wagging tongues everywhere are all abuzz over the latest campaign blunder by Herman Cain. But is it really the gaffe everyone says it is? Or was it a selective editing job a la Ed Shultz?

Well, call me cynical, but I’ve seen enough media shenanigans to be suspicious of anything taken out of context and this definitely tripped my radar. In the clip that has gone viral (below), Cain does appear to be caught off-guard by a question on Libya, a topic he ought to have been ready for.

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My first reaction was to wonder how many clips like this land on editing room floors instead of online. In a world used to hyper-slick video and equally slick candidates, a moment of thought gathering can seem disastrous. Still, this isn’t about a some candidate’s “senior moment.” Rather, it is about a hatchet job gone awry.

This clip was released by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel along with the entire half-hour interview it was taken from. For my part, I think the whole interview is worth watching as Cain performs admirably. But for those who just want to get to the goods, skip ahead to about the 20 minute mark.

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What a difference a little context makes!

The clip that went viral begins with one reporter asking, "So, you agreed with President Obama on Libya or not?" Seems like a follow-up to a related question. But in the full length video, one can clearly see that Cain was responding to a question about Bush’s policy of promoting democracy abroad. Suddenly, the interviewer tosses up the question, turning it into one about Obama. He didn’t even ask a complete question.

Whatever Cain might have said would have been placed in context of his previous answer. No doubt to make some bizarro equivocation between Bush and Obama. Cain wasn't about to let himself get drawn in and instead tried lay down a different context before answering. When Cain says, “I just wanna make sure we’re talkin’ about the same thing before I say ‘Yes I agreed’ or ‘No, I didn’t agree,’” he is establishing the framework for his answer, not struggling to remember where Libya is on the map.

Did Cain fumble? Of course, he was lobbed a rotten toss. Could he have done something better with it? Hindsight usually tells us "yes." But does this so-called "gaffe" reveal a woeful lack of knowledge of foreign policy on Cain's part? Hardly.

Rather, it seems that this group of reporters thought they were setting up a clever “gotcha” moment that didn’t pan out. One reporter asks the Bush question and another suddenly shifts gears to Obama without touching the clutch. But their little "gotcha" setup didn't produce the desired results. So, robbed of the gaffe they thought they had so cleverly set up, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel was forced to run with Cain's pause as the next best thing.

The video is very amateurish, with lots of shuffling and ambient noise. MJS is a newspaper, so I'm not faulting that. But it does why the so-called pregnant pause was there at all. In the full interview, Cain can be seen and heard speaking freely and knowledgeably about Libya and a range of other topics, including collective bargaining, the economy, finance, ObamaCare, his support among women and African Americans, Occupy Wall Street, and much more. He is shown deftly fielding questions from at least four separate reporters and demonstrating that he is readily knowledgeable about every area he is quizzed on.

But when it comes to Libya, the reporters repeatedly try to put words into Cain’s mouth, (“So, you are saying…”) which he resists. When Cain seeks clarification to the Libya question, the reporter explaining even seems to have some difficulty. That's because Bush never got involved in Libya, so the supposed connection made no sense.

Besides, given how much attention was paid to Libya in the press, it’s downright ridiculous to think a presidential candidate would be so woefully prepared for the topic. Even prepared, the reporter’s vague inquiry would be difficult to answer. After all, in spite of how the story ended for Colonel Gaddafi, the Obama position on the matter changed almost daily as the late-colonel’s days were running out. Which of Obama’s positions was being referred to? That should set off buzzers in most people’s minds.

All the same, pundits of all stripes were quick to pounce in an attempt to ensure that the prophecy which states “no outsider shall be nominated” shall be fulfilled. Cain’s pause—routinely billed as being eleven seconds, but I time it at only eight—was taken as evidence that the presidential candidate doesn’t have a firm enough grasp of foreign policy issues to be commander-in-chief. Others used is as an excuse to drag up the sexual harassment allegations that went nowhere. One of the odder claims was that the entire GOP lineup is now toast. (Aren’t they even going to take a swing at Newt?)

Some conservative talkers declared the Cain-Train derailed, calling his flub an unforgivable embarrassment for the movement. Harder hits suggested that his campaign’s initial response—that Cain was tired—only indicates that Cain wouldn’t be able to handle the proverbial “4 am phone call.” Old attacks on the 9-9-9 plan were dusted off, though sounding hardly more convincing than before.

Of course, none of this would get the slightest credence if it weren’t for the fact that the media knows the electorate prefers appearances over substance. The question of context ought to be a natural one, but it’s not. Instead, a moment of thoughtful reflection, taking the care not to answer an important question blithely, gets contorted into evidence of shallowness and unpreparedness—precisely the opposite! Cain, ever the gentleman, seems to be taking the event in good humor, saying he is flattered that the media now scrutinizes his pauses since they cannot attack what he actually says. He may be the first candidate to actually be above the finger-pointing and name-calling that the current gaffe-master-in-chief so bemoaned four years ago.

The fact remains that Herman Cain is an intelligent and qualified outsider that the media--liberal and conservative alike--feels it is their duty to destroy. If it takes a few lies and misrepresentations to do it, so be it.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: gaffe; hermancain; libya
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EVERYONE should watch this.

Context makes ALL the difference.

1 posted on 11/18/2011 9:43:48 AM PST by justsaynomore
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To: K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; Publius772000; ...

Pinganator!

In other HC News this morning:

No Toaster for Herman Cain
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809403/posts

A Prayer for Herman Cain
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2808957/posts

Herman Cain says OWS out to “destroy” America
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809211/posts

Cain Focuses On Jobs In NH Visit - Cain Chokes Up When Discussing Wife, Faith (Tears)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809199/posts

Herman Cain receives Secret Service protection
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809153/posts


2 posted on 11/18/2011 9:44:59 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel was playing “Gotcha”. They hate Mark Block, and want to take down anyone associated with him.


3 posted on 11/18/2011 9:45:46 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: justsaynomore

When context is applied, Herman usually shows as the opposite of what the liberati herd folks to believe.


4 posted on 11/18/2011 9:46:10 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: justsaynomore

2 more:

Obama versus Cain: A Clash of Theological Proportions
http://townhall.com/columnists/harryrjacksonjr/2011/11/17/obama_versus_cain_a_clash_of_theological_proportions

Poll Shows Herman Cain Leads with Female Independent & Republican Voters
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809469/posts


5 posted on 11/18/2011 9:46:44 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

Thanks for posting this. It makes a great deal of sense.

Moreover, this was not intended to be a TV interview. It was a news interview for a NEWSPAPER. Presumably, they recorded it, supposedly, so as to get an accurate transcript of Cain’s remarks.

Instead, they carefully edited it, took it out of context, and pretended it was a gaffe. If Caine made a mistake, it was to allow them to make a video record of a newspaper interview. But it’s only a mistake if they twist and lie about it. Which, of course, they did.

Cain, from what I have seen, has more sense on the subject of Libya than most Republican politicians, who have shamelessly remained silent while Obama has ridden roughshod over the Constitution and fought the war on the wrong side, helping to put the Muslim fundamentalists in power all over North Africa. Cain seems to understand that. He is one of the very few Republicans who has been willing to say it.


6 posted on 11/18/2011 9:50:37 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.2)
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To: MHGinTN

“...Some conservative talkers declared the Cain-Train derailed,...”

Hew Hewett, on Tuesday evening radio, was declaring the Cain Train dead and over after the Libya interview. He played it a few times, rambling on and on about it.

You know...who the hell needs the Dems to smear us when we have “friends” of our own helping to take our candidates down...

So damned annoying.

I refuse to participate in skewering OUR guys - I absolutely refuse to provide ANY ammunition to the democrat/communist/socialist/liberal coalition in any way, shape, or form. I won’t aid and abet the enemy.

And I hate it when “our” side on the talk radio circuit and out here do it.

Go Herman!


7 posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:17 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
It is the spittlegeist


8 posted on 11/18/2011 9:57:10 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: All

The media is corrupt, dangerous, and evil. It’s going to get worse.


9 posted on 11/18/2011 9:57:20 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: justsaynomore

Just when I want to believe women’s intuition is sound and they instinctively trust Herman, I am reminded that too many females also supporter a sexual degenerate, sinkEmperor clintoon. But that was a very different stinking fish.


10 posted on 11/18/2011 9:58:50 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: NFHale
You know...who the hell needs the Dems to smear us when we have “friends” of our own helping to take our candidates down...

Hugh Hewitt has been ramming Mitt Romney down the throats of his listeners since 2007. I haven't considered him a "friend" since then.
11 posted on 11/18/2011 9:59:13 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: MHGinTN

“spittlegeist”

Ha! Excellent!


12 posted on 11/18/2011 10:00:54 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Cicero
Instead, they carefully edited it, took it out of context, and pretended it was a gaffe. If Caine made a mistake, it was to allow them to make a video record of a newspaper interview.

I don't know why anyone would allow himself to be videoed without someone on his own side (or even just a free standing tripod) making another video at the same time. Just imagine how many "carefully" edited 60 Minutes interviews would have to be thrown out if the interviewee could show that the question and the answer were mismatched through editing.

13 posted on 11/18/2011 10:10:01 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: mmichaels1970; MHGinTN

I think the talking heads are just running scared, thinking that Romney is the only viable candidate against ODouche.

Ultimately, WE will decide who OUR candidate will be, and we need do our damndest to make sure it’s the right person and best for the job. No repeat of John McCain.

As far as Hewett goes, I’ve not listened to him much, only a few times, and the times that I heard him, he seemed to be a Conservative. But that program, which I switched on on my way home from work, just frosted me. I found myself yelling at the radio in the car (yeah...I know...but TELL me you’ve NEVER done that too....hahah!).

To my mind, a real Conservative doesn’t ratf**k other Conservatives in the back. If it wasn’t what he was doing, it sure as hell seemed like it.

One Team, One Fight. The ENEMY is the liberal/democrat/communist/socialist coalition facing us, and always has been - with the emphasis on the “Liberal” because we have them on our side of the aisle as well.


14 posted on 11/18/2011 10:10:52 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Our collective mistake:


15 posted on 11/18/2011 10:13:29 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Ahh, Pogo!!! Remember it well.

But “we” aren’t the enemy.

Liberals amongst us are, and always have been.

They’re the ones who sneak down in the middle of the night and open the gates to let the barbarian hordes in ...sorta like they’re doing right now on the border...

...walk up and plant a big, wet sloppy kiss smack on the lips of a fat, cancer-ridden communist Venezualan dictator....

...or another kiss on the lips of a little ChiCom pr*ck in a businessman’s suit as he sells us down the river...

THAT’s the enemy, brother. And always has been.

WE’RE what makes this country work; THEY’VE spent all their lives trying to erase us.

And have NOT succeeded.

F*** ‘em.


16 posted on 11/18/2011 10:18:34 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: justsaynomore

bump.


17 posted on 11/18/2011 10:21:01 AM PST by ken21
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To: justsaynomore

Everyone should watch this, especially the sheeple who keep jumping on the GOP establishment & media bandwagon to knock Cain down a few notches. I marvel at my fellow Conservatives that are so quick to jump on Cain and refer to him with terms as “clueless or inept” solely based on short sound bites being spoon fed to them from the media. Cain is what he is: A self made successful businessperson and a political outsider who has made a big splash with his inspirational story and bold economic ideas but is understandably prone to making some Rookie mistakes on the campaign trail. If he does gets the nomination he will be a far improved Presidential candidate having been thouroughly vetted, like no other, in the Primaries.


18 posted on 11/18/2011 10:22:48 AM PST by 07Jack
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To: justsaynomore
We're all aware of this stuff these days. The MSM want the Democrats to bail out their bankrupt newspapers ~ they'd like for the Republicans to do that too but THEY KNOW we aren't going to do that ~ oh no ~ never.

Bankruptcy is the correct route to take to enable productive resources and personnel to be handed over to capable new managers.

If that means MSM reporters have to suck candidates into not speaking for 11 seconds, then that's going to happen.

Here's a trick ~ the RNC Chairman should assign a staffer to the duty of determining which MSM reporters MAY NOT interview Republican candidates.

Their names would be on a list for everyone to look at ~ and AVOID.

This would be kind of like Nixon or Obama's enemies list but you have to start somewhere.

19 posted on 11/18/2011 10:23:52 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: NFHale

Hence the mistake ... we assume these oh so earnest assassins are GOP. Even Romney’s slugs are not GOP, they’re romneybots. We also have a small squad of DNC operatives who saw how they could use the risingire in GOP and Tea Party folks to assassinate Sarah. Freepers can see that the enemy (the deviant media serving as propaganda arm of the DNC) works to dividie and then their commie demigods can conquer us. The promoters of the circular firing squad are workign for Romney and the DNC, wittingly or unwittingly. Johnnie seems to be unwittingly herded into their service.


20 posted on 11/18/2011 10:25:18 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Ayn Rand’s Fountainhead


21 posted on 11/18/2011 10:31:12 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: justsaynomore

What a silly spin. The question was perfectly logical. The subject being discussed was promoting democracy and overthrowing dictators. Asking if he supported Obama’s policy on Libya was a perfectly loglcal follow up, and Cain clearly either didn’t know about what has been going on there, or more likely just couldn’t recall. There is nothing “gotcha” about it. It was a momentary Cain-train-brain-drain. Blaiming the media is absurd. But Cain and his crew seem to always blame someone else.


22 posted on 11/18/2011 10:32:56 AM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: MHGinTN

The liberals read Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War” and took it to heart.

Some on our side are still reading “Winnie the Pooh” and are content to see the world as just another Blustery Day...and play by whatever rules the other side sets.

I call that ignorance, born of cowardice.

“...we assume these oh so earnest assassins are GOP...”

They’re liberals first, and anything else second.


23 posted on 11/18/2011 10:33:33 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Hugin

You obviously didn’t watch the whole interview.

If you have legitimate complaints against Cain, fine, but stop smearing him based on lies.


24 posted on 11/18/2011 10:34:48 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore
That's because Bush never got involved in Libya, so the supposed connection made no sense.

Never got involved? One of Bush's foreign policy successes was getting Gaddafi to end his weapons programs and improve relations. That sure looks like involved in Libya to me!

25 posted on 11/18/2011 10:47:24 AM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: newzjunkey

The topic was about the current conflict in Libya.

Try and keep up.


26 posted on 11/18/2011 10:50:24 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

What’s really sad is that all the Perrybots jumped on that smear bandwagon to help the libs in their efforts. We all know who those Perry trolls are.


27 posted on 11/18/2011 10:56:29 AM PST by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: Hugin

So instead of watching the video and understanding the point of the article you went straight to regurgitating the same old bullshit.


28 posted on 11/18/2011 10:59:20 AM PST by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: montyspython

Gingrich and Perry supporters both.


29 posted on 11/18/2011 11:00:03 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Cicero

So, being a gentleman, Cain refrained from responding, “What the HEL* are you talking about, you idiot?”


30 posted on 11/18/2011 11:06:56 AM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: justsaynomore

WHOA! Context, context, context. This has to get out there. The lib msm is up to their low gutter tactics AGAIN with this.


31 posted on 11/18/2011 11:08:23 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Hugin

Watch the video. It’s plain as the nose on your face he didn’t fumble anything.


32 posted on 11/18/2011 11:11:24 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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33 posted on 11/18/2011 11:14:19 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: MHGinTN
" When context is applied, Herman usually shows as the opposite of what the liberati/Newtbots/Perrybots/the Liberal GOP establishment herd folks to believe." ....

There now, fixed.

Yes, there are folks even on our side who don't want to see a black man in the office as President.
They have already shown their colors, as calling Herman Cain as a dumb black man in their critical views of this " Gotcha " interview.
What the MSM, Liberals, even those on our side are saying is ? that Herman Cain is a dumb black man in their over hysteria over nothing by a slick edited interview.
34 posted on 11/18/2011 11:17:40 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Cicero
" Instead, they carefully edited it, took it out of context, and pretended it was a gaffe "

And those even on our side who support another candidate run with this with glee and keep using their propaganda to make Herman Cain look stupid by taking this wholly out of context.
35 posted on 11/18/2011 11:20:23 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Aw fiddlestix, don’t go there. There is no need to paly a race card. I’m a Newt Gingrich supporter. But that doesn’t prevent me from see the strong characteristics of Herman Cain as a capable conservative. This riping the other candidates to establish your candidate by default serves Milt Rominy and Barry bassturd, not Herman Cain or newt or Rick or Michelle. In fact, when you spittle forth trashing the other candidates, if readers know whom you support you get a negative added to your candidate’s reserve.


36 posted on 11/18/2011 11:23:56 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: justsaynomore

This brings us to the actions of Charlie Sykes a “consedrvative” talk show host on Milwaukee’s WTMJ am 620. After hammering Cain for the last 3 weeks has come out today 11/18/and endorsed Romney. He began his attack the day before Politico went after Cain.

Party members who don’t believe in social issues and support a given candidate (Romney) opposed to Cain will be using material developed by liberal MSM this to advance their guy..
Sykes opened up on Cain 10/26/11,going after Mark Block, Cain’s chief of staff as arrogant , and inept and warns Block will wind up embarrassing Cain alledging Mark Block’s mishandling of funds in a Wisconsin race

Sykes claimed the ad depicting Block smoking a cigarette was pure ego and the focus would be on Block. Sykes is the kind of guy who doesn’t see smoking bans as a goverment intrusion.

Now Sykes was very helpfull in uncovering the shenanigans of the WDPO (Wisconsin Democratic Party Operatives) and to a great extent highly influential when Wisconsin voters went to the polls and threw out the democrats state wide..

But Sykes is a middle of the road eliteist. A kind of Repbulican Blue Blood. He may claim he isn’t but he is.

Sykes is one of several talk show hosts and RINOS who are infulenced by MSM positions particularly on social issues.When the subject of the Keyes vs Obama race for Illinois US senator, Deleware’s O’Donnell or the Nevada Sharon Angle US senatorial races comes up he will decry the conservative position on social issues these candidates took..

But will never bring up the disasters in California where most of those statewide and US candidates took middle of the road positions and sunk like lead balloons to the bottom of the water closet.

In the 08 presidential Sykes endorsed NY mayor Rudy Giuliani . Sykes was almost a loss for words when Romney refused to reply to the Ohio union question raised by a reporter. Needless that lack of support went as they say viral. In fact his reaction was amusing to those who loyally follow him but have a pretty good idea where he’s comming from promoting a guy (Romney) who couldn’t call Obama a socialist during a debate.

But Sykes timing for his attack on Cain should be pointed out as well as whom he finally acknowledged he is supporting which is Romney.


37 posted on 11/18/2011 11:31:11 AM PST by mosesdapoet (To punish a province let it be ruled by a professor Fredrick The Great paraphrased)
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To: Hugin
" There is nothing “gotcha” about it. It was a momentary Cain-train-brain-drain. Blaiming the media is absurd. But Cain and his crew seem to always blame someone else."

Ahh yes, now there is a fair and unbiased assessment of what really happen to Cain and that MSM interview , Sarcasm.

What part of ? they edited the taped interview to get the desired effect that they wanted to smear Cain do you not get ?
38 posted on 11/18/2011 11:35:30 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: MHGinTN
" Aw fiddlestix, don’t go there. There is no need to paly a race card "

Don't play the coy or naive card, you know very well that there are even those in the GOP who don't want to see a conservative black man rise to the top and win.
They keep on pouncing and pouncing on Herman Cain's interview INSPITE of the fact that this video was edited..... so ? what do you call it then when they STILL call him slow, inept ? SR. moment ?
ohhh yes, this is just the time to say that they have no other reason to say that they don't want him because of the fact that he's black.... yeah, forget the fact he's most likely the most conservative of the bunch.
39 posted on 11/18/2011 11:46:16 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Most conservative? I would say that characteristic is more likely Michelle Bachmann # one, then Rick Santorum, then Herman or Rick Perry, then Newt Gingrich, then maybe Jon Huntsman, then Rue Paul, and I wouldn’t even put Milt Rominy on the scale of conservative.


40 posted on 11/18/2011 11:49:32 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Take off your biased blinders and see the TRUTH !


41 posted on 11/18/2011 11:53:18 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: justsaynomore

We should invite vetting of all our candidates.

But the media has been mostly silent on Romney.

We cannot let the media choose our nominee. Obviously they are fearful of a Herman Cain nomination.


42 posted on 11/18/2011 12:01:43 PM PST by MN_Mike (Governor Sarah Palin for the win! Piper Palin for President 2036 (Biden: Gird YOUR loins))
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To: American Constitutionalist

OooKaaaaay


43 posted on 11/18/2011 12:22:55 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: justsaynomore; montyspython

I did watch the portion of the video with the question leading up to the Libya question. It was a discussion of the Bush policy of promoting the overthrow of dictators. Cain answered to the effect of of they are happy with their system we aren’t going to try to talk them into democracy. Libya was an obvious question, since it was pretty obvious that people weren’t “happy” with their dictatorship. Not that I’m sure how you determine if people living under a dictatorwhip are “happy”. Rather than try to determine their happiness, I would prefer judging based on what’s in our national security interest first. But in any case it shouldn’t have been a hard question to answer. He either had a brain freeze (happens to everybody, and he said things were “twirling around in my head”), or he hasn’t been following what has been going on there.

BTW, I get pretty sick of you Cain supporters saying anyone who disagrees with you is lying. You are entitled to your opinion on the video, but if you accuse me of lying you ought to have the brainpower and decency to spell it out as to what you think is a lie. Or read the rules for posting on FR.


44 posted on 11/18/2011 5:39:21 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Hugin

I never said you lied. I said I am tired of smears based on lies. The media who is the ones who are lying and misrepresenting Cain, but there are some folks on FR who are carrying forward those lies as truth.

If you have a problem with that, please go ahead and ping the moderators or Jim Robinson.


45 posted on 11/18/2011 6:01:49 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I am impartial. You clearly are seeing what you want to see. I don’t see anything edited, other than cutting out a question and answer verbatum. Editing would be the kind of thin 69 minutes does, showing the answer from one quetion as an answer to another, or cutting out part of an answer or question. I don’t see any of that.

That’s normal. Grow up or get a hanky.


46 posted on 11/18/2011 6:03:00 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: justsaynomore; K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; ...

B U M P


47 posted on 11/19/2011 5:34:23 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: NFHale

Hewitt is a caspar milquetoast RINO


48 posted on 11/19/2011 5:52:01 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yeah I kind of got that impression, too.

He just wouldn’t stop with the slams against Cain. It was very irritating.


49 posted on 11/19/2011 1:02:00 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Hewitt, and a whole host of others, sad to say.


50 posted on 11/20/2011 7:24:04 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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