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Jerry Sandusky 'Rock Center' interview: "I shouldn't have showered with those kids."
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Posted on 11/14/2011 4:33:24 PM PST by Perdogg

DEVELOPING: Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky admitted to showering and horsing around with young boys but said he is not a pedophile in an exclusive interview with Bob Costas in an exclusive interview for NBC News' Rock Center airing tonight at 10 pm/9 CT.

"I say that I am innocent of those charges," said Sandusky in a phone interview with Costas.

When asked by Costas, "Are you a pedophile," Sandusky responded "No."

(Excerpt) Read more at rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: jerrysandusky; pedstate; pennstate; psu; sandusky
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To: Loud Mime

The MSM long ago refused to use the word homosexual with pedophilia because it is much more prevalent and likely to be a pedophile if you are a male homosexual. It is the reason “homosexual” is not used with the Catholic Church.

MSM wants to normalize homosexuality....and to destroy the Christian ethics—right and wrong. They are trying to make Man/Boy sex legal through APA and repeal of sodomy laws. They are trying to return to pagan/Satanism/child sacrifice...... and make the Bible hate speech. It is why they are removing “God” and Christianity from the public square....they are normalizing homosexuality and polygamy and next will be pederasty—exactly as if we were Ancient Greece or Afghanistan or the Samurai. All have man/boy sex for recreation....women are cattle and used for breeding in homosexual cultures.

The only reason homosexuality and pederasty was put into a “box” was because of Christianity and Judaism...it is prevalent in islam and many non-Western countries which weren’t influenced by Christianity.

It ruins the image of “homosexuality is good and normal”. It is a dysfunctional immoral lifestyle that is mainly caused by physical and emotional child abuse.

Anyone who wants “special” status and “rights” for homosexuals are advocating child abuse and are ok with child abuse.


51 posted on 11/14/2011 5:09:31 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: Perdogg

It should be easy for people with lie-detection technology to know if he’s lying or not in this interview.


52 posted on 11/14/2011 5:10:57 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Cvengr

“That’s just ignorance”


53 posted on 11/14/2011 5:13:23 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: trumandogz
It will be a difficult case to prosecute.

We'll see. Instead of only the eight boys in the Grand Jury Presentment, the prosecution had twenty victims available to testify as of Tuesday afternoon. And the story has hit the national media, so other victims who may have moved out of the area since being abused in the mid-1990s (when some of the earliest molestations of the eight are alleged to have occurred) may come forward. There is also some degree less shame in numbers. Others in the area may now speak. It's clear from the GJ Presentment that several of the victims knew each other. Each new victim may have leads. Investigators will be checking The Second Mile records and interviewing anyone who may have had conduct with Sandusky, and interviewing the additional victims, and getting more names. And investigators will track down the Sandusky's foster children . . . and even Sandusky's adopted children may now come forward.

There's no telling how many young adults and recent youth victims may on the list of witnesses if this ever goes to trial.

I think it may be too politically explosive to go to trial because of all of the names involved in what we know, what we suspect, and what would horrify us.

Prosecutors cannot afford to give Sandusky a good deal given the intense spotlight under which they find themselves. But some very powerful people may speak to Sandusky and, if he's guaranteed that he won't be in the general population, he may take a guilty plea.

I think loyalty to Sandusky will evaporate as soon as it's viewed that taking down Sandusky is a step toward not taking down all of Penn State.

54 posted on 11/14/2011 5:14:43 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I stand for something; therefore, I can't stand Romney)
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To: buccaneer81
Sandusky’s attorney is an absolute fool for allowing this.

I disagree. He's already convicted in public opinion to almost everyone. The attorney has nothing to lose. OTOH, if Sandusky is a good enough liar or Clintonesque distortionist, he might stand a chance of changing some minds.

55 posted on 11/14/2011 5:16:17 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Loud Mime

Is he a Catholic? Cause the ENEMEDIA claims that’s the root of all evil.


56 posted on 11/14/2011 5:16:53 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: buccaneer81
This interview will come back to haunt him (which is fine with me.)

I pray fervently that many things come back to haunt him,dog him,make every waking moment a living hell for him,until finally he is forced to end his life in order to get rid of the torture.I hope it fries his heart and burns his guts.I want so many horrific things for this man,it scares me.Forgive me Lord,but he's just VILE.
57 posted on 11/14/2011 5:21:37 PM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: marty60

Children are much more likely to be abused if not raised by both a biological mother and a biological father. It is why Marxists want to destroy the natural family—which is the best protection for children.

The Franklin Cover-up did the same thing-—besides kidnapping boys on paper routes, they used boys at orphanages, and from broken families. Note: boys are more likely to be abused than girls. For every boy raped-—10 go unreported....it may be even more than that.

It was common for man/boy sex prior to the spread of Christianity....of course, where pederasty is rampant—the middle east—there was no religion who frowned on man/boy sex. It is why our government is forcing our military to look the other way when they see the Afghani’s sodomizing all the boys. It is disgusting....we should destroy that culture, not build it up. Islam is sick.

BUT we have a marxist in chief who is removing “no” sodomy in the military—to corrupt the men and kick out any Christians that are left. After all, he is also a sodomite according to Larry Sinclair and was probably molested as a boy by his “mentor” the pedophile—Frank Marshall Davis.

Homosexuality is a learned lifestyle and you need to groom boys when they are young (like in Afghanistan) and forming their sexual identities to pervert them.


58 posted on 11/14/2011 5:22:25 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: Perdogg

it could be one of those McMartin Preschool things


59 posted on 11/14/2011 5:33:32 PM PST by Selmore (Except for ending Slavery, Facism, Communism, and Nazism, War never has accomplished anything)
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To: MasterGunner01

In Mn, in the 60’s, Jr. High boys always took swimming class nude. I think it went on till the middle 70’s.


60 posted on 11/14/2011 5:35:43 PM PST by DManA
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To: Hugin

LoL...


61 posted on 11/14/2011 5:43:27 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: DManA
In Mn, in the 60’s, Jr. High boys always took swimming class nude. I think it went on till the middle 70’s.

Well, that explains some of the older men I've met from Minnesota. (ducking)

62 posted on 11/14/2011 5:44:41 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I stand for something; therefore, I can't stand Romney)
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To: marty60

[ Costas is stupid. ]

Costas is as stupid as he wants to be.. I got my (eye) on him too...


63 posted on 11/14/2011 5:45:10 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: allmendream

You’re looking at this all wrong. Sandusky is an equal opportunity pedophile therefore all is ok.


64 posted on 11/14/2011 5:46:06 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: Perdogg

Sick b******.


65 posted on 11/14/2011 5:48:59 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Scoutmaster

The AG’s spokeperson today stated that additional investigative resources have been required due to new leads generated in the last week. By the time it’s over, I fear this SOB’s victim list will stand at 100+.


66 posted on 11/14/2011 5:51:30 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: dfwgator

But, the Michael Jackson jurors checked their brains at the door. This was California, after all. I wonder if Pennsylvania jurors will consent to this. Just a thought.


67 posted on 11/14/2011 5:52:24 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: hoagy62
Being impaled ala Vlad Tepes (aka the REAL ‘Count Dracula’) would be too good for him.

LOL, every time a case like this comes up, I say to my wife: "you know what punishment this guy deserves?" She knows my answer: "IMPALEMENT".

68 posted on 11/14/2011 5:52:46 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: allmendream

Just might be...we shall see


69 posted on 11/14/2011 5:52:57 PM PST by dennisw (I heard the old man laughing. What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-- Sting)
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To: Scoutmaster

HEY!!!

Ironically, as society becomes more libertine, we are becoming more prudish. Up until the 70’s or so it was quite common on athletic club MEN ONLY pools for people to swim nude. There were public baths in the olden days and and steam rooms where men routinely went nude. A lot of Finnish families up in this neck of the woods whole families would sauna nude.

And back on those days, if you had said anything about it they would have looked at you as the pervert. Because it was perfectly normal to them.


70 posted on 11/14/2011 5:56:02 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA
That's correct. We did that when we took swimming in junior high and high school in the early 1960s. But coaches did NOT shower with the boys. The coaches hardly ever broke a sweat — they were there to see the kids did the sweating. The coaches showered when the kids were not there.
71 posted on 11/14/2011 5:57:33 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: rawcatslyentist

No he is not. He belongs to a United Methodist church.


72 posted on 11/14/2011 6:01:00 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Scoutmaster

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/us_attorney_pledges_support_in.html
U.S. attorney pledges support in probes of Sandusky, Penn State

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/14/2562411/mike-mcqueary-claims-he-stopped-jerry-sandusky-after-witnessing-abuse
Mike McQueary Claims He Stopped Jerry Sandusky After Witnessing Abuse, According To Report


73 posted on 11/14/2011 6:01:03 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: MasterGunner01

No of course not. Just more evidence that the honest people are locked up and the criminal are running free.


74 posted on 11/14/2011 6:01:55 PM PST by DManA
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To: rintense
I’ll bet anything he never steps foot in a prison.

Ala, Casey Anthony????

75 posted on 11/14/2011 6:04:59 PM PST by blondee123 (u)
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To: MasterGunner01

My dad would never be naked in front of us kids. My husband would never be naked in front of our kids. That’s wierd.


76 posted on 11/14/2011 6:05:34 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: abb

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/sports/ncaafootball/jack-raykovitz-chief-of-second-mile-resigns-amid-penn-state-scandal.html
More Accusations Surface In Penn State Abuse Case


77 posted on 11/14/2011 6:08:42 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: SaraJohnson

You didn’t grow up in a sauna culture.


78 posted on 11/14/2011 6:10:11 PM PST by DManA
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To: Perdogg

The kids shouldn’t have tried to pick up the soap they dropped!


79 posted on 11/14/2011 6:13:53 PM PST by dalereed (uity wise!)
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To: abb; rintense
Speaking on “Good Morning America” Monday, newly appointed Penn State University President Rodney Erickson said that the university is committed to the victims of the crime and raising awareness of child sexual abuse.

I thought it had been raised pretty high with all the scandals involving the Catholic church. It seems that each institution has to make all the same mistakes on its own rather than learn from the experience of other institutions.

80 posted on 11/14/2011 6:46:49 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Perdogg

Question should have been: Are you a predatory queer? And just how may little boys did you rape? Do you think Bubba will like showering with you in the pen?


81 posted on 11/14/2011 6:48:04 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: rintense

None of these three things can ever be cured or rehabilitated. Jerry needs to be put away for the rest of his life with no chance of parole.


82 posted on 11/14/2011 6:51:42 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: hoagy62
Being impaled ala Vlad Tepes (aka the REAL ‘Count Dracula’) would be too good for him.

Abolishing drawing and quartering has been the downfall of Western civilization.

83 posted on 11/14/2011 6:58:14 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: savagesusie

There you go again, SS - speaking the Truth - Excellent synopsis of the whole sickening situation.


84 posted on 11/14/2011 6:59:47 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Selmore

so you think this is all made up? I still haven’t heard why now this is all coming out after so many years of alleged abuse? Why did it take so long? What happened to the prosecutor who disappeared? How deep/high does this go? Did Jerry think he would always be protected because of those in high places who may have participated in a little bit of pederasty? Stay tuned.


85 posted on 11/14/2011 7:06:33 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: DManA

We had a hot tub when we lived in the North. But we used that after the kids were in bed. They were not allowed in.


86 posted on 11/14/2011 7:07:24 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: savagesusie

Your exactly right. I agree that the incidents of Boys being Raped is probably higher. I think that little boys are probably at least equal to women and girls emotional trauma..if not more.

Our society has become so depraved that a major university actually PROTECTED a KNOWN pedophile.


87 posted on 11/14/2011 7:15:56 PM PST by marty60
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To: SaraJohnson

Gosh, I didn’t even notice your name. Back in the olden days people were allowed to congregate in unisex groups. Since that is now anathema everyone has to wear a suit.


88 posted on 11/14/2011 7:17:51 PM PST by DManA
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To: buccaneer81

McQueary is saying now that he DID BREAK UP THE RAPE! He says he made Sandusky stop.

Someone is lying!!!!!


89 posted on 11/14/2011 8:21:22 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: LeonardFMason

McQueary said when he looked in the shower room both Sandusky and the boy he was raping looked at him. I imagine that alone stopped the attack, but McQueary didn’t take the boy to safety or even learn his name. Unless he’s come forward since the GJ report, he’s still unknown.


90 posted on 11/14/2011 8:28:50 PM PST by GAgal
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To: LeonardFMason
McQueary is saying now that he DID BREAK UP THE RAPE! He says he made Sandusky stop.

He's trying to save his sorry skin. Interesting how that revelation comes out 10 days after the story broke and everyone is lawyered up.

Watch Sandusky get a new attorney now that the NY Post has outed his current lawyer as having impregnated a 16 year old girl when he was 48.

91 posted on 11/14/2011 8:38:59 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: sodpoodle

also...there aren’t cameras in there.
Many buildings will have cameras at the doors - and even the hallways, but it’s illegal to have them in bathrooms - shower rooms.


92 posted on 11/14/2011 8:46:22 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: buccaneer81

Bear Bryant and Woody Hayes didn’t live long after retiring from coaching football.


93 posted on 11/14/2011 8:50:03 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: rawcatslyentist

I thought I saw him being reported as a methodist?


94 posted on 11/14/2011 8:50:04 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: MinorityRepublican

Bo Schembechler kept himself busy, as Michigan AD and President of the Detroit Tigers. He had a bad ticker, but he made it to 79.


95 posted on 11/14/2011 8:52:15 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Perdogg
"I shouldn't have showered with those kids ..."

Three succinct words to Sandusky:

"NO SHIT SHERLOCK ..."

96 posted on 11/14/2011 9:18:44 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Scotswife

*no cameras*

You nailed it - and the rationale/opportunity to undress.

What an evil b*st*rd.

(also wondered about the racial mix of his victims).


97 posted on 11/15/2011 3:53:52 AM PST by sodpoodle (Cain/Gingrich - a twofer I can go for.)
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To: DManA
There were public baths in the olden days and and steam rooms where men routinely went nude.

I know. My answer was tongue in cheek.

Much of my Scouting work is now in International Scouting and I've been to Japan in situations involving only adults. There's still public bathing and in some the Prefectures I visited, it wasn't separated by the sexes.

However - and this struck me late last week:

Scouting is/was in every country in the world except six (right now, it's hard to say in some African countries). It takes some very different forms than the BSA. It's coed in most cases, and not just like 14-21 year-old Venturing in the U.S. Coed all the way. At some international events, there's a place where alcoholic beverages are served for the adults.

At the last two World Scout Jamborees, in the adult staff area (with a lot of 21-25 year-old staff from around the world), there were some long-term and short-term/one-night/twenty-minute "relationships" started. And there was a bar (which U.S. Scouters could not visit, in or out of uniform.)

But despite all of the contrasting views on sex, drinking, coed activities, and everything else across 160 or so countries . . . the showers were set up with separate facilities for adults and youth.

98 posted on 11/15/2011 5:44:58 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I stand for something; therefore, I can't stand Romney)
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To: abb
Mike McQueary Claims He Stopped Jerry Sandusky After Witnessing Abuse, According To Report

Thanks. I read that tucked away in an ESPN report this morning. I'd certainly like to think he did. But I also can't imagine why he immediately go public with that statement, and if Penn State advised him no to do so, tell them where to get off the bus.

99 posted on 11/15/2011 5:54:25 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I stand for something; therefore, I can't stand Romney)
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To: MinorityRepublican; buccaneer81
Bear Bryant and Woody Hayes didn’t live long after retiring from coaching football.

Woody Hayes lived another 8 years after being fired.

100 posted on 11/15/2011 7:29:13 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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