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Good Riddance, Joe Paterno [Warning: Graphic Penn State 'rant']
The Daily Beast ^ | Nov. 10, 2011 | Buzz Bissinger

Posted on 11/11/2011 1:25:04 AM PST by Colofornian

The Penn State legend tried to do an end-run around the trustees, but they still fired him for doing nothing to stop the alleged sexual abuse of young boys. Now it’s time to ditch the rotten college football system, says Buzz Bissinger.

Like everyone else, I cannot get the scandal of Pennsylvania State University out of my mind.

The story is unfolding at the speed of sound, not just the worst sports scandal in modern history but also one of the worst scandals in modern history:

A former Penn State assistant coach for 29 years and alleged sexual predator, Jerry Sandusky, apparently continued unchecked because of the failure of university officials and head football coach deity Joe Paterno to do anything that might have made a difference instead of what they collectively did achieve:

Buck-passing and unconscionable cowardice.

Paterno announced in a statement Wednesday that he would retire as head coach at the end of the football season after 46 years. He tried to sound like a humble martyr, but he was selfish and self-serving as usual. With the hubris and arrogance that has been the hallmark of his career over the past decade, the over-the-hill 84-year-old attempted to do an end-run around the Penn State board of trustees, who have been meeting to decide his fate. Paterno was hoping he could forever claim he decided to leave the football program of his own accord. The trustees called his bluff Wednesday night, firing Paterno and university president Graham Spanier.

Paterno is just a part of this whole sordid, shameful disgrace. He is easy to focus on because of his mythic stature, all false idol, as it turns out. But I find myself not caring about him anymore, particularly now that he has been let go.

What I am trying to fathom is how it ever became possible that so many men of power and intellect did nothing when it became obvious, because it was abundantly obvious on the basis of the findings of fact handed down earlier this week by a Pennsylvania investigative grand jury, that a former assistant coach familiar to all of them was apparently plucking out little boys as young as 10 to f--k up the ass or be on the receiving end of blowjobs.

(Note: we need to stop the daintiness and describe the alleged offenses for what they truly are in the vernacular to somehow try to capture the monstrousness. Not anal intercourse or oral sex, which sounds clinical, but butt-f--king and blowjobs and cock-grabbing and pants-groping and other assorted acts that the 67-year-old Sandusky allegedly inflicted on eight minor victims over a 15-year span, according to the 23-page grand-jury report, and resulted in 40 counts of serial sex abuse of minors.)

I think the answer to the question of inaction is simple. It wasn’t a matter of university officials and football staffers in Happy Valley not wanting to deal with it (which they didn’t), or not following up (which they didn’t), or having better things to do like attending Friday-night football pep rallies. There is no great conspiracy theory at work.

What happened, or more accurately did not happen, goes to the core of evil that major college sports programs in this country have become, equivalent to Mafia families in which the code of omertà rules and coaches and staff always close ranks around their own, even if it means letting someone who was first accused of inappropriate sexual conduct in 1998 continue to roam.

The horror of it all, both in terms of what Sandusky allegedly did and what Penn State officials did not, can be summed up by a single sound.

It is a “rhythmic, slapping” sound, according to page 6 of the grand-jury report. It is heard by a 28-year-old football graduate assistant named Mike McQueary in the locker room of the Lasch Football Building on the Penn State Campus at 9:30 on the Friday night of March 1, 2002.

McQueary is placing some new sneakers into his locker. At first he finds it odd that the lights and showers are on. Then he hears the sound coming from the showers. He looks inside and according to his grand-jury testimony, sees the cause of the sound: a naked child of roughly 10 years old with his hands up against the wall with a naked Sandusky butt-f--king him from behind. Sadistic, yes. Sick, yes. Beyond disturbing, yes. Deviant, yes. Immediate grounds for calling the police? Of course, yes. The upshot?

Nothing. Nada. Not a goddamn thing but the passing of the buck up the food chain of bureaucratic bullshit where too many people know that something awful has happened and try to bury it.

McQueary, who witnessed the incident, witnessed it, doesn’t call the police, although he is 28. He runs to his daddy. His daddy advises him to tell Paterno. He tells Paterno. The great JoePa, who regardless of his noncredible insistence in grand-jury testimony that he was never told the specific nature of the sexual act, does at the very least acknowledge that McQueary did relate to him that Sandusky was “fondling” a young boy.

Unless fondling of young boys by assistant football coaches at Penn State is commonplace and encouraged, that alone should be enough to make Paterno go to the police. Or being the father figure he supposedly is, tell McQueary that he has to go to the police and will accompany him, given that Paterno is the most popular and powerful man in Pennsylvania, with instant credibility.

But Paterno does nothing beyond fulfilling his minimal obligation. He passes the information he says he has on to athletic director Tim Curley and that’s it, the obviousness that Sandusky is doing something terrible apparently far less important than such crucial pursuits as watching game films of the last Ohio State game. And on up the food chain it goes—to senior vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, all the way up to Spanier, the university president. But with each iteration the incident only seems to become more diluted and more muddled or, as the grand-jury report unequivocally indicates, some of those aware of what happened are lying their balls off to try to minimize what they really knew. Which would also explain the action that the university ultimately took against Sandusky:

He had his keys to the locker room taken away, which he had still maintained after he stopped coaching in 1999.

Which may also explain that in the wake of such draconian punishment, Sandusky subsequently gave blowjobs to a minor roughly 13 years old more than 20 times in 2007 and 2008, according to the grand-jury findings of fact.

Joe will mercifully be gone, along with President Spanier. Curley has gone and Schultz stepped down. So should McQueary, who is actually the most gutless in not telling police what he witnessed. The entire Penn State coaching staff, too much under the influence of Paterno, should go.

And so, frankly, should major college football and basketball as it exists now, rotten beyond repair, as has been pointed out a thousand times. Totally disconnected from the academic experience, they are insulated kingdoms with their own rules and reigns of terror because of the money they make, trading in illegal recruiting and illegal gifts and illegal favors, and now, thanks to Penn State, alleged sexual abuse of children by a former coach who must have assumed he would always be protected. Just like a Mafia soldier.

Except that the even the Mafia has higher moral standards.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: childabuse; gagdadbob; inneedosomerestraint; onecosmosblog; paterno; pennstate; sandusky; sports
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Warning: Graphic language. Bissinger doesn't mince descriptive words here.

Be advised: The squeamish or youngest readers should move on to other posts.

Despite the language, I elected to post this because...

...just as we need to SEE actual graphic abortion dismemberments so as to refrain from reducing plural "abortions" as some singular abstract "issue" (vs. seeing him and her as neighbors in the womb)...

...we need at times to look with horror at what other victimized children endure...beyond the womb.

From this editorial 'rant': (Note: we need to stop the daintiness and describe the alleged offenses for what they truly are in the vernacular to somehow try to capture the monstrousness. Not anal intercourse or oral sex, which sounds clinical, but...

1 posted on 11/11/2011 1:25:10 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: All
From the editorial 'rant': Buck-passing and unconscionable cowardice...Sadistic, yes. Sick, yes. Beyond disturbing, yes. Deviant, yes. Immediate grounds for calling the police? Of course, yes. The upshot? Nothing. Nada. Not a g...damn thing but the passing of the buck up the food chain of bureaucratic bullshit where too many people know that something awful has happened and try to bury it.

From the editorial 'rant': Unless fondling of young boys by assistant football coaches at Penn State is commonplace and encouraged, that alone should be enough to make Paterno go to the police. Or being the father figure he supposedly is, tell McQueary that he has to go to the police and will accompany him, given that Paterno is the most popular and powerful man in Pennsylvania, with instant credibility. But Paterno does nothing beyond fulfilling his minimal obligation. He passes the information he says he has on to athletic director Tim Curley and that’s it, the obviousness that Sandusky is doing something terrible apparently far less important than such crucial pursuits as watching game films of the last Ohio State game. And on up the food chain it goes...

From this editorial 'rant': Paterno is just a part of this whole sordid, shameful disgrace. He is easy to focus on because of his mythic stature, all false idol, as it turns out. But I find myself not caring about him anymore, particularly now that he has been let go.

2 posted on 11/11/2011 1:25:53 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: Colofornian

“And so, frankly, should major college football and basketball as it exists now, rotten beyond repair, as has been pointed out a thousand times. Totally disconnected from the academic experience, they are insulated kingdoms with their own rules and reigns of terror because of the money they make, trading in illegal recruiting and illegal gifts and illegal favors, and now, thanks to Penn State, alleged sexual abuse of children by a former coach who must have assumed he would always be protected. Just like a Mafia soldier.”

This is the absolute truth. Collegiate athletics ad nothing to the educational process. They are a worthless distraction from what should be a learning process.


3 posted on 11/11/2011 1:28:31 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: All
From the editorial 'rant': What happened, or more accurately did not happen, goes to the core of evil that major college sports programs in this country have become, equivalent to Mafia families in which the code of omertà rules and coaches and staff always close ranks around their own, even if it means letting someone who was first accused of inappropriate sexual conduct in 1998 continue to roam...The entire Penn State coaching staff, too much under the influence of Paterno, should go. And so, frankly, should major college football and basketball as it exists now, rotten beyond repair, as has been pointed out a thousand times. Totally disconnected from the academic experience, they are insulated kingdoms with their own rules and reigns of terror because of the money they make, trading in illegal recruiting and illegal gifts and illegal favors, and now, thanks to Penn State, alleged sexual abuse of children by a former coach who must have assumed he would always be protected. Just like a Mafia soldier. Except that the even the Mafia has higher moral standards.

(Ex?) ABC-TV broadcaster Jim Lampley, who covered college football games for a long time, was interviewed on a radio program last night. (Not sure which one) He said his second game was @ Penn State...where the media would be invited over Paterno's house for a meal...how "cozy" the hosts made it for the MSM to "love" Penn State. Lampley said the underlying root problem these days is the overcommercialization of College football...To paraphrase him, he said when College Football began to become its own-purposed self-entity -- vs. being an adjunct of the educational institution -- is what has led to its downfall exposure. Per this forum, Penn State pulled in $50 million from its football program in 2010. Pride "cameth" (if that's a word) before the "falleth" (that's NOW a word)

Saturday's game is NO TIME for Penn State fans to wrap themselves in the "Nittany Lion Pride" flag & logo.

It's better served as a time of sackcloth and ashes. Corporate repentance for creating sub-cultures of idolatry and overcommercialization...with lack of mutual accountability. And most of all, it's better served in intercessory prayer for our children...especially those victimized.

4 posted on 11/11/2011 1:29:56 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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I read elsewhere that Sandusky and the boy both looked at McQueary, they knew he saw them. How could he not help that boy? What did Sandusky say or do to make McQueary go home and not contact police or even Paterno until the next day? Or is that not what really happened?


5 posted on 11/11/2011 1:45:39 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Dominoes. Bigger than this and going to get bigger.


6 posted on 11/11/2011 1:53:20 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MacMattico; Colofornian; All

There is now a new rumor being reported by a columnist who is saying that much more serious allegations are being followed up by investigators. These allegations are that young boys were being pimped to big donors. The next few days will see if these rumors pan out.


7 posted on 11/11/2011 1:56:30 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: MacMattico
I read elsewhere that Sandusky and the boy both looked at McQueary, they knew he saw them.

Yes...this is in the Grand Jury Presentment (page 6 or 7)

How could he not help that boy? What did Sandusky say or do to make McQueary go home and not contact police or even Paterno until the next day? Or is that not what really happened?

Yes, that is what happened...or better put...what FAILED to happen of import.

#1 McQueary, 28 then, played @ Penn State. Sandusky was his coach.

#2 It went further back than that. McQueary played Little League with one or more of Sandusky's adopted sons.

No doubt there was sheer shock going on. Reeling flabbergasted utter shock.

I'm sure if it had been a stranger, McQueary would have been a hero on behalf of that victim. As it was, he's become the goat (and for good reason). Talk radio in Central PA Wednesday was merciless toward him, followed by death threats enough to now keep him away from Saturday's game.

It became, what one commentator said, a "conspiracy of cowards."

The more it was discussed (with McQueary's father, then Paterno, then the AD & VP), the more they each decided to "lateral" the report rather than face the forces ahead.

The above is not offered as McQueary "excuses," mind you...just a bit to help filter this with a few of the instant emotions he faced.

'Twas a surprising "gut-check" encounter for McQueary. He failed the test, to the harm of that victim, no doubt other victims, Paterno, and the entire Penn State program, administration, and student body...all for DECADES to come.

8 posted on 11/11/2011 1:56:53 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: gleeaikin; MacMattico
There is now a new rumor being reported by a columnist who is saying that much more serious allegations are being followed up by investigators. These allegations are that young boys were being pimped to big donors. The next few days will see if these rumors pan out.

Yes...these two threads were posted Thursday on this:
* New Jerry Sandusky Rumor Threatens To Make Penn State Scandal Much Worse
* Jerry Sandusky Rumored to Have Been 'Pimping Out Young Boys to Rich Donors,' Says Mark Madden

Pray for the investigative journalists and criminal investigators to root out any others

9 posted on 11/11/2011 2:00:22 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: Colofornian
Whoa! I agree with his using vulgar words to show just how vulgar this abuse was/is.


Where there's a shell, there's a way.

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings. Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.

Do it!

10 posted on 11/11/2011 2:07:51 AM PST by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: Colofornian
Just read that in addition to adopting 5 boys, (and 1 girl) the Sandusky’s had many foster children over the years...

And you can't make this stuff up : his autobiography is titled TOUCHED: The Jerry Sandusky story.

11 posted on 11/11/2011 2:22:09 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: Colofornian

And then hear Lou Holtz try to justify those actions!


12 posted on 11/11/2011 2:29:10 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Colofornian
A former Penn State assistant coach for 29 years and alleged sexual predator, Jerry Sandusky, apparently continued unchecked because of the failure of university officials and head football coach deity Joe Paterno to do anything that might have made a difference instead of what they collectively did achieve:

Buck-passing and unconscionable cowardice.

These are pretty serious assertions and judgments based on what? -- Righteous anger?

In the context of the homosexual culture being propagated in our universities, encoded in our laws, argued in our courts, their alleged cowed behavior may be explained. If male/male or female/female hookups, marriages are considered to be equal to male/female, then it follows that man/boy or woman/dog liaisons cannot be far behind. I suspect that the paperwork in already in the pipeline.

It is beyond stupid to refuse to connect the dots when you know that male and female genitalia are made for union, and that union can only be obtained between same sexual couples by perverted, unnatural, risky behavior (to both physical and mental health). The resulting twisted and demented thinking has clearly permeated our culture.

Look for more both within and outside of the great state of Pennsylvania.

I think that people are jumping on Joe Paterno because that makes more news than writing about the actual alleged perp, the president of the university, and key staff members whose jobs include ensuring the safety and security, not getting ready for the next football game.

13 posted on 11/11/2011 2:42:03 AM PST by olezip
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To: Colofornian
"And so, frankly, should major college football and basketball as it exists now, rotten beyond repair, as has been pointed out a thousand times."

It's not just the sports programs, everything in and of our current "higher education" system has been subverted and turned into a taxpayer funded recruitment, propaganda, and rewards mechanism for the fascist democrat party in this country.

Whether it's the subverting someone into ignoring perversion with the money of the sports program or rewarding a faithful fascist politician who "fell on his sword" for the party, everything associated with the current university systems in this country works to corrupt the morals of those who have them and reward those who have no morals. Those who show "promise" or the right kind of perversion are singled out in high school, granted an easy ride into and through the university system, and then either employed by the fascist democrat political machine directly or as members of the "education system" to further seek out and reward like minded Secular Humanists who have no morals.

The entire education system in this country, from preschool through PhD programs, needs ripped apart and rebuilt in a way that makes it impossible for the institutions that are supposed to educate to ever again become just an extension of any political group and sources of massive funding for a single ideology. Tenure, quotas, preferences of any kind, it all has to be torn down and turned into the very model of a meritocracy that is not based on the current definition of merit whereby the politically correct are granted the credentials that prove their "merit". Look at the number of complete dolts with credentials and it's immediately obvious that it is not the mastering of the material in a particular field that gets someone an advanced degree, it's their ability to play by party rules.

It's all got to be torn down and until it is, the fascist party will always have a source of massive funding through grants and foundations, and will always be able to recover their power no matter how badly they're defeated in elections.

JMHO

Regards

14 posted on 11/11/2011 2:49:48 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Colofornian
Warning: Graphic language. Bissinger doesn't mince descriptive words here.

Actually, he does...he avoids using the one word that seems to be missing from ALL the commentary on this 'scandal'...HOMOSEXUAL. You see it on forums such as this, but NOT on more 'mainstream' news/sports sources...a clear nd present indicator of the death grip political correctness has on our culture.

Sandusky is a homosexual pedophile...why is everyone afraid of saying that?

15 posted on 11/11/2011 2:56:54 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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In the context of the homosexual culture being propagated in our universities, encoded in our laws, argued in our courts, their alleged cowed behavior may be explained.

You are on to something. Universities and business are seeking diversity and the legitimization of all cultures. Well in certain cultures man-boy sex is OK. Legitimization of this type of perversion is what NAMBLA is all about.

16 posted on 11/11/2011 2:58:57 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Mark Steyn, Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele are good for the soul)
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To: who knows what evil?

nd = and. Sorry.


17 posted on 11/11/2011 2:58:58 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: vette6387

I would argue that the liberalism of the college president tolerating homosex has something to do with it.

This wasn’t all about sports, but college liberalism.

I wonder if he would’ve kept his job back then if it was girls.


18 posted on 11/11/2011 3:14:44 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Colofornian
Romans 1:

[21] Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God, or given thanks; but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened. [22] For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. [23] And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man, and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts, and of creeping things. [24] Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves. [25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

[26] For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. [27] And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. [28] And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient; [29] Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, [30] Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

[31] Foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy. [32] Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.

19 posted on 11/11/2011 3:22:42 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: olezip

You wrote: “In the context of the homosexual culture being propagated in our universities, encoded in our laws, argued in our courts, their alleged cowed behavior may be explained. If male/male or female/female hookups, marriages are considered to be equal to male/female, then it follows that man/boy or woman/dog liaisons cannot be far behind. I suspect that the paperwork in already in the pipeline.”

Obama considered Spanier for Secretary of Education in 2008.

Penn State was warned in 1995 not to hire Spanier:

[ Thursday, March 16, 1995 ]

The Daily Collegian (Independent publication of Penn State Students)

PSU search may end in Nebraska

http://www.collegian.psu.edu:8080/archive/1995/03/03-16-95tdc/03-16-95dnews-7.asp
By ERIN STROUT Collegian Staff Writer

[excerpt]:

.....The selection committee narrowed the list down to one, and the new president will start on Aug. 31, when Thomas’ retirement begins.

If Spanier is confirmed as the next president, he might be a familiar face to some University faculty and administrators. Spanier was a professor of human development and sociology from 1973 to 1982 and an associate dean for the College of Health and Human Development from 1979 to 1982.

Loudon said Spanier’s strength at Nebraska lies in academics, but he is also known as a liberal individual who pushes an aggressive social agenda.

“He very much focuses on affirmative action and a pro-homosexual agenda,” Loudon said.

Loudon, who used to live in New Castle, Pa., said Nebraska and Pennsylvania have comparable social atmospheres, and Spanier might be considered liberal at Penn State as well.

“Watch out for his social agenda and make sure he doesn’t make it a priority over academics,” Loudon said.

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The AG will NOT say that Spanier is NOT a target. She has said that Paterno is not a target.
http://www.edgeonthenet.com/news/national/news//126660/penn_state_prez_out_in_sex_abuse_scandal

....The 63-year-old Spanier had led Penn State since 1995, and his contract was to run through 2015. The university system, headquartered in State College, includes 96,000 students on 24 campuses and has an annual budget of about $4.3 billion.

Spanier earned more than $800,500 in annual base pay, deferred compensation and retirement contributions, according to The Chronicle of Higher Education. He told The Associated Press earlier this year that he considered his salary, which was set by trustees, to be “very generous” and that it “feels peculiar for someone who grew up in a poor family.”

Spanier has donated more than $1 million to the university. He also has overseen $3 billion in philanthropic contributions to Penn State during his tenure, according to his biography ....”

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Penn State was up to it’s neck in the Climategate scandal with Professor Micheal Mann. Which Penn State cleared him of any wrong doing.

‘Climategate: Penn State Mostly Lets Researcher Michael Mann Off the Hook
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2010/02/climategate-penn-state-mostly-lets-researcher-michael-mann-off-the-hook/


20 posted on 11/11/2011 3:24:22 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: Colofornian

Add this to your list. I believe this will be the bigger story as the heat is turned up.

Revealed: Prosecutor who failed to nail Penn State coach for ‘sex abuse’ vanished in 2005 and was declared ‘legally dead’ this year

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060027/Ray-Gricar-disappeared-2005-tried-bring-sex-abuse-case-Penn-States-Jerry-Sandusky.html#ixzz1dOZHwaFu


21 posted on 11/11/2011 3:34:53 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: Colofornian

Culture is the manufactory of the Man. People have always been flawed, but a strong Culture give them something to lean on in tough moments. Culture won’t stop evil rather it fights it. Simply put: There was nothing bigger in any of these ‘persons’ (they are not Men)lives than Happy Vally, Football and Joe Pa.


22 posted on 11/11/2011 3:40:29 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Colofornian
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23 posted on 11/11/2011 3:44:07 AM PST by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: olezip

“I think that people are jumping on Joe Paterno because that makes more news than writing about the actual alleged perp..”

This isn’t tunnel vision, it’s intermittant vision. Joe Paterno’s silence got even more children raped than would have been the case if he’d actually been the Man he liked to pretend that he was.


24 posted on 11/11/2011 3:46:19 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Maybe the queer frat at Penn State will have sandusky march with them in their next gay pride parade. these sick humans degrade and contaminate everything they infiltrate. Schools, churches, entertainment, military, and all


25 posted on 11/11/2011 3:51:48 AM PST by doosee
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To: gleeaikin

I read that, too. I am positively sick. Waiting for that shoe to drop.

PSU circled the wagons...just like they did around that globull warming professor that falsified his data. They conducted an INTERNAL investigation and found nothing wrong. Of course.

As a Pa. taxpayer, though, the settlements these families are inevitably going to get better not come from anywhere else but the Penn State employees (coaches) or the University itself. I refuse to be part of that foodchain.


26 posted on 11/11/2011 4:02:53 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: truthfreedom
This wasn’t all about sports, but college liberalism.

You are right. Penn State is also the home of the Global Warming hoax.

27 posted on 11/11/2011 4:10:30 AM PST by JimWayne
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To: All

Sandusky wasn’t just a sick pervert, he was a total predator.

He set up an organization to be used as a supply of boys to molest.

He adopted 5 boys and many foster children. They need to interview every single child that entered that home and was in that organization.

I think his perversions are going to be huge, when this is fully investigated.

To hell with all of them...JoePa and Mcqueary...this interim coach is in it up to his stinking neck too....Just watch.


28 posted on 11/11/2011 4:15:19 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: doosee
Maybe the queer frat at Penn State will have sandusky march with them in their next gay pride parade. these sick humans degrade and contaminate everything they infiltrate. Schools, churches, entertainment, military, and all.

If one wants to see what happens when you embrace the homosexual agenda of gay marriage, etc, just look at Europe where most countries have lowered their age of consent to 14 (still not enough) and decriminalized pedophilia dramatically.

29 posted on 11/11/2011 4:18:54 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Correct - also interesting how the MSM covers this and never mentions homosexuality... instead watchfor the attacks on the football programs but not on the perpetrators.


30 posted on 11/11/2011 4:22:21 AM PST by doosee
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To: Colofornian

It’s hard for me to read this thing, it’s so sickening, so I’m just going to ask here:

Did the police ever arrest the person who was witnessed having sex with a 10 year old boy?


31 posted on 11/11/2011 4:27:00 AM PST by samtheman
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To: MacMattico
This is completely wild speculation on my part, by in light of the fact that Sandusky was a coach there for so long, I'm wondering if he had, uh, "relations" with some of his players or with young kids who later played for Penn State.

A 28 year-old guy running home to his father for advice on what to do in this situation tells me we're dealing with a seriously stunted personality here.

32 posted on 11/11/2011 4:37:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: MacMattico

Paterno went down but McQueary didn’t ? I don’t get it.

McQueary should be fired for not going to the cops!

Did Paterno know that there were many more kids assaulted than the one kid McQueary saw? If he did, then I agree with his immediate firing. If not, then he should have been allowed to finish the season.


33 posted on 11/11/2011 4:39:48 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland ( Obama, President of the Democrats and Joe Biden, VP are the top morons of the DNC.)
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To: TalBlack

You’re right. Paterno should have announced the real reason Sandusky was kicked off the coaching staff back in ‘99. I wonder how that would have went over.


34 posted on 11/11/2011 4:49:20 AM PST by RedwM
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To: Colofornian
There is no great conspiracy theory at work.

I can't be sure of that. There are several PSU officials, former officials & athletic department officials that sit on the board of The Second Mile Foundation. Several people wear 2 hats. Not uncommon for a college town. The foundation must be investigated, too.

35 posted on 11/11/2011 4:56:18 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Colofornian

My respect for paterno is down the drain, if all of this is true. “The Penn State legend tried to do an end-run around the trustees” That is exactly what he was trying to do, control the situation. Well, goodbye, you old fart.


36 posted on 11/11/2011 4:56:57 AM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: Matchett-PI

Barry’s big on gay rights. I’ve always wondered why Spanier didn’t get the job as SecEd, what the Feds knew about Sandusky and when they knew it.


37 posted on 11/11/2011 5:02:37 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: Colofornian

I take it Sandusky is a proud member of the homosexual community??

preying on young boys has always been their way -


38 posted on 11/11/2011 5:04:19 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: olezip

The “Paterno-phase” of this scandal has hit its high-water mark. Now the university & the Second Mile Foundation are under the microscope. There will be a lot more coming out.


39 posted on 11/11/2011 5:04:21 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: vette6387

It´s more than a distraction - it actively corrupts the admissions and learning process, as the University has to go through the motions of pretending to give the “student athletes” a college education. It hurts the students, it hurts the athletes, and it makes little sense.


40 posted on 11/11/2011 5:06:13 AM PST by globelamp
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To: Colofornian
Wonder which record Joe Paterno will be most remembered for achieving?

Most Division 1 wins as head coach?

Most male children homosexually raped in his Athletic Department showers?

41 posted on 11/11/2011 5:09:15 AM PST by N. Theknow (Idi Obama = Just your everyday, ordinary, 3rd World Dictator)
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To: SueRae
Speaking of PSU and money, I just ran across this article written by a Scott Paterno back in March....

Don't cry for PSU

The money's mind boggling.

42 posted on 11/11/2011 5:09:30 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: Colofornian
The great JoePa, who regardless of his noncredible insistence in grand-jury testimony that he was never told the specific nature of the sexual act, does at the very least acknowledge that McQueary did relate to him that Sandusky was “fondling” a young boy

If Paterno's insistence above is true, then what difference would it make?

43 posted on 11/11/2011 5:16:44 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Colofornian
This article is an exercise in poor logic. You can't generalize from what was going on at Penn State and assume it applies to every college sports program.

Penn State was an anomalous situation, because they had a quasi-divine coach who had been there for 62 (!!) years, and who was basically allowed to run the place without effective oversight. It was an open secret that the AD, Paterno's nominal superior, was never hired without Paterno's approval. Can you imagine a job where you get to hire your own boss?

Because of that, I'm not really surprised that a scandal could be hidden there for a long time. No other college sports program is run that way, AFAIK.

44 posted on 11/11/2011 5:19:55 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: Colofornian
Anyone know if Jay Paterno still has a coaching/recruiting job at PSU? I've seen Scott Paterno referenced in the media, but not Jay.
45 posted on 11/11/2011 5:23:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: vette6387

This is the absolute truth. Collegiate athletics ad nothing to the educational process. They are a worthless distraction from what should be a learning process.


Disagree totally. They help build school spirit, pride, and loyalty. They also help recruit atheletes and non-athelets alike. And, yes, they are a revenue source for some schools (so what?).

Is the contribution of sports hard to quantify? Yes. But its definitely there. There are many factors that contribute to learning. It doesn’t just take place in the classroom. And I say this as a college professor [computer science] who is not even a big sports fan.


46 posted on 11/11/2011 5:23:50 AM PST by rbg81
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To: mewzilla
Barry’s big on gay rights. I’ve always wondered why Spanier didn’t get the job as SecEd, what the Feds knew about Sandusky and when they knew it.

I think Spanier was the backup to Arnie Duncan in case their favorite Chicago-boy could not clear scrutiny.

47 posted on 11/11/2011 5:25:02 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: TalBlack
This isn’t tunnel vision, it’s intermittant vision. Joe Paterno’s silence got even more children raped than would have been the case if he’d actually been the Man he liked to pretend that he was.

Is anyone asking questions about who, if anyone, has the responsibility for responding or reporting allegations of sexual abuse? Government employees have training including who to call to report suspected wrong doing. The Catholic church has police background checks and special training to recognize signs of sexual abuse and where to report; the Boy Scouts of America for years has a requirement for similar training of all volunteers who have contact with children.

What does Penn State have in the way of training to recognize signs of sexual abuse, responsibilities of the supervisors and staff, reporting, and individuals responsible for taking action and following up? Or is that discouraged or ignored because universities are leading the way to personal freedom, acceptance of homosexuality, same sex marriage, etc.?

48 posted on 11/11/2011 5:48:03 AM PST by olezip
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To: Tallguy

Don’t know if you saw Barry Switzer’s comments yesterday. He flat out said that ALL the coaches at PSU HAD to know what was going on..


49 posted on 11/11/2011 5:53:49 AM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: doosee
"...these sick humans degrade and contaminate everything they infiltrate. Schools, churches, entertainment, military, and all"

".....This is indeed the peculiar thing about totalitarianism, and what distinguishes it from mere tyranny (or from contemporary authoritarian states).

"Think of ancient Rome, for example. As far as they were concerned, you were free to think what you wanted, so long as it didn't threaten state power.

".........Therefore I think it is accurate to say that the underlying purpose of ideology is to render the wrong right and the lie truth. It magically allows the means to justify the ends, since the utopian goal is so beautiful. ..."

"...I should add that this can be a very subtle process, especially in the non-totalitarian west, where ideology, for the most part, isn't imposed, but rather, seduces and hypnotizes.

"For what is ideology but a substitute reality, or anti-world? It is a pseudo reality, like scientism, or materialism, or leftism, something superimposed on the world.

Eventually the world is no longer perceived at all. Either it is filtered through the ideology, or critical aspects of reality excluded by the ideology aren't even seen (say, the spiritual world). ......"

Excerpts from:

Between Thought and Expression

50 posted on 11/11/2011 5:54:56 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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