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House Republican lawmakers want out of Norquist tax pledge
The Hill ^ | 11/09/11 | Russell Berman and Bernie Becker

Posted on 11/09/2011 3:07:39 AM PST by markomalley

Grover Norquist’s grip on the House Republican Conference is loosening.

A growing number of GOP lawmakers have disavowed Norquist’s pledge against supporting tax increases in recent days, telling The Hill they no longer feel bound to uphold a document that they signed, in some cases, more than a decade ago.

Norquist’s advocacy group, Americans for Tax Reform, lists 238 House signers of its Taxpayer Protection Pledge, but several House Republicans, and at least one Democrat, now say the anti-tax group is being deceptive and want their names taken off the list.

“I haven’t signed it since 1994,” Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-Ohio) said, explaining that he didn’t even remember endorsing the pledge until Americans for Tax Reform produced the original document earlier this year.

In its publicly displayed list of signers “in the 112th Congress,” Norquist’s group includes several members who say they have specifically refused to sign the pledge during their most recent campaigns.

The sheet of paper they signed years ago, the lawmakers say, is no longer valid.

“My driver’s license expires. The milk in my refrigerator expires. My gym membership expires, and I find the website to be a little deceptive,” LaTourette said.

Norquist immediately dismissed the claim, which was echoed by several other House Republicans.

“Does that even pass the laugh test?” Norquist told The Hill. “A promise not to do something doesn’t have a time limit.

“I haven’t even had junior state legislators pull that crap,” Norquist added.

The pledge dissenters represent the latest challenge to Norquist, widely considered the nation’s most influential anti-tax activist. Democratic leaders have targeted his power in recent weeks, vilifying him as a puppet-master of the Republican Party.

The pledge, which Norquist launched in 1986, has taken on added significance as the congressional “supercommittee” on deficit reduction nears its deadline for finding at least $1.2 trillion in budget savings over 10 years. Democrats are insisting on new tax revenues, but the pledge mandates that any tax changes be revenue-neutral. They blame the pledge for the impasse in the talks.

“The difficulty we find is that every one of these discussions, Grover Norquist seems to be in the room,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters Tuesday. “I am hopeful that the Republicans on the supercommittee will break away from this.”

Reid’s comments came as GOP panel members offered to raise tax revenue by limiting deductions in exchange for lowering rates, in what aides characterized as a significant concession in the negotiations. Democrats panned the offer, saying the new revenue would be erased by extending Bush-era tax rates. Norquist, meanwhile, derided it in a Twitter post as an “idiot idea” reminiscent of the Alternative Minimum Tax.

All but six House Republicans are listed as signers of Norquist’s pledge, meaning that a voting majority of the body is on record opposing tax increases. Forty GOP senators and one Democratic senator have signed it.

Norquist has waged public battles with other Republican critics of his activism, most notably this spring with Sen. Tom Coburn (Okla.). House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) raised eyebrows last week when he referred to Norquist as “some random person” even as he defended the House GOP’s steadfast opposition to tax increases.

Americans for Tax Reform lists two House Democrats, Reps. Robert Andrews (N.J.) and Ben Chandler (Ky.), as pledge signers, but Andrews told The Hill he signed the document a single time, in 1992, and wants his name removed.

“I understood it to mean that for the next term, if I were elected, I would not vote to raise taxes,” Andrews, who called the ATR website “terribly misleading,” said in an interview. “I honored that pledge. I never renewed it.

“I never considered it to be like my marriage vows,” he added. “I’m married to Camille Andrews, not Grover Norquist. I promised her to be faithful until death do us part, and I mean it. I did not promise him to oppose tax increases until death do us part.”

Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) signed the pledge in 1998, when he first ran for Congress, and said he didn’t even know he was still on the list until earlier this year. “I thought it was for the next Congress,” Simpson said. “If it sticks with you forever, why do they ask you to re-sign it every two years?”

LaTourette said he had also assumed he had not signed it and even enlisted Boehner’s office to check with Norquist’s group, which confirmed that he did endorse the pledge in 1994.

ATR officials said the group’s practice is not to ask pledge-takers to sign it more than once, although several lawmakers reported being sent the pledge regularly during their reelection campaigns. Norquist said it was perhaps sent by state or local groups and that sometimes ATR sends it out en masse to candidates. But, he added, that’s never under the notion that those who have already signed it have to sign again.

Republican Reps. Howard Coble (N.C.), Pete King (N.Y.) and Lee Terry (Neb.) all indicated, either in interviews or through spokesmen, that they signed the pledge more than a decade ago but not for the current Congress. They were among 40 House Republicans who joined 60 Democrats last week in signing a letter to the supercommittee urging a grand bargain on deficit reduction that included revenues, entitlement reform and spending cuts.

“As far as Mr. Norquist is concerned, that’s his call if he wants to bind us all based on one signature,” Coble said.

Norquist has long emphasized that the pledge is made to a candidate’s constituents, not to him or Americans for Tax Reform. And he has said that his group is more concerned with lawmakers’ voting record on taxes, instead of their rhetoric.

“Talking about robbing a little old lady is not the same as bashing her over the head and stealing her purse,” he said. “Talking about raising taxes on a little old lady is not the same as taxing her.”

But he also signaled that ATR would not hesitate to target pledge signers if they voted for a debt deal that included tax increases.

“They made a promise to their constituents,” Norquist said. “If they do raise taxes, they were elected on a lie. And we’re not going to pretend they’re not lying.”

Despite the recent complaints, most House Republicans remain broadly opposed to tax increases, and several of the signers of last week’s letter said they were calling for more revenues but not higher tax rates.

“Grover Norquist’s premise makes sense to most common-sense people,” a pledge signer who endorsed the supercommittee letter, freshman Rep. Mike Kelly (Pa.), said.

Some Republicans have disavowed the pledge not based on a dispute over its duration, but because they say it constrains their policy choices.

Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-Neb.) signed the pledge prior to being elected to Congress in 2004, a spokeswoman told The Hill.

But Kerri Price, the spokeswoman, said that by the start of his second term, Fortenberry thought the pledge limited his ability to look at policy issues creatively. Since then, the Nebraska Republican has repeatedly asked, so far unsuccessfully, for his name to be taken off the list of pledge signers on ATR’s website.

“I don’t care to be associated with it. It’s too constraining,” Fortenberry told an August town hall in his district, according to the Lincoln Journal Star.


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To: markomalley
"“My driver’s license expires. The milk in my refrigerator expires. My gym membership expires, and I find the website to be a little deceptive,” LaTourette said. "

His ass is fixin' to expire.

41 posted on 11/09/2011 8:52:24 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: marty60

Grover Norquist’s new found love of Islam is irrelevant.

This is about cutting spending to balance the budget versus increasing taxes.

Attacking Norquist on fiscal matters by bring up his Muslim wife is a non substantive point and useless.


42 posted on 11/09/2011 9:09:48 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: rbmillerjr

He is a LOBBYIST of the worst kind. Will sell his country down the river for money.

His new found love for Islam is NOT a problem?

Since we KNOW that the Islamofascist would love to see this country brought to our knees financially. His new found love for Islam sure as h is a problem AND a national security problem.

Just as Al Alwaki. He attended Washington “outreach” Do we know who got him the invite. Rove or Norquist?

Every Repub that has signed this thing should disavow any solidarity with Norquist.
BTW love his Islamic beard/S


43 posted on 11/09/2011 9:16:39 AM PST by marty60
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To: Prokopton
Signing a piece of paper for some special interest group is not only meaningless, it is transparent pandering.

Except that taxpayers are not a "special interest group.". If anything, they are a general interest group.

44 posted on 11/09/2011 9:21:44 AM PST by denydenydeny (The moment you step into a world of facts, you step into a world of limits. --Chesterton)
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To: Pan_Yan

I though closing loopholes and cutting rates by a corresponding amount was, in fact, within the parameters of the pledge.


45 posted on 11/09/2011 10:32:01 AM PST by lightninglad
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To: marty60

A lobbyist for lower taxes and less government...could use some more of that.


46 posted on 11/09/2011 11:10:30 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: markomalley

Time you little people be brought to heel.

You’ll pay your taxes and smile while doing it.

/sarc(??????)


47 posted on 11/09/2011 12:54:09 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: markomalley

Anyone making a list of those wanting OUT of their :no raising taxes” pledge? If so, I WANT a copy. I need to know whose (Tea Party) opponents to support and donate to in the primaries!


48 posted on 11/09/2011 1:38:31 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: concerned about politics

Muslim means fifth column.


49 posted on 11/09/2011 2:00:31 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: denydenydeny
Except that taxpayers are not a "special interest group.". If anything, they are a general interest group.

Grover Norquist does not represent taxpayers, no one voted for him. Norquist represents Americans for Tax Reform, which definitely is a special interest group.

50 posted on 11/09/2011 2:42:21 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

Norquist is able to command an audience. Check his wifes background. I have heard him stir up conservative audience but will not stay around for Q and A. Trust factor not high on my list.


51 posted on 11/09/2011 3:00:53 PM PST by codder too
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To: Prokopton

We’ll agree to disagree. The tax pledge was not a pledge of allegiance to Grover Norquist or his organization, or any organization. It was an across-the-board proomise to never vote to raise taxes, period. The only “interest” involved is the general interest of taxpayers. The classification of taxpayers as a “special interest” is an old Democrat trick, and it’s pretty sickening.


52 posted on 11/09/2011 7:34:46 PM PST by denydenydeny (The moment you step into a world of facts, you step into a world of limits. --Chesterton)
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To: newzjunkey
"You're a colorful one, aren't you? And you know what happens when the term expires? An election. And LaTourette is saying if he's been elected to a new term, and Grover keeps asking every 2 years to sign the pledge again, how can they argue it doesn't expire?"

Because LaTourette has never heretofore even so much as questioned his pledge. Therefore a reasonable person could believe that he, like all the other Congressmen that signed -- whenever they signed -- continue to honor that pledge.

Seems to me the proof of that is how loud LaTourette barked when poked by the MSM on the issue. If it wasn't of significant import to him (viz versus what he knows his constituents back in Ohio believe about honoring that pledge) he could have, in lieu of a reply, told The Hill to go stuff themselves. But he didn't, did he?

And yes, LaTourette is a douchebag.

53 posted on 11/10/2011 5:06:33 AM PST by StAnDeliver (/)
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