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The Steve Jobs Anti-Eulogy (NOT a hit piece)
Bnet ^ | 10-18-11 | Penelope Trunk

Posted on 10/19/2011 7:45:21 AM PDT by bigbob

The blogosphere has been rife with remembrances of Steve Jobs over the last couple of weeks. I don’t have anything bad to say about him, but now that some time has passed, I’m just going to say it: I think the hoopla over him is over the top.

A few things to consider:

1. People write about Steve to write about themselves.

2. Individuals do not make history. Populations do.

3. You can tell a lot about a society by the people they honor.

4. Steve Jobs sheds more light on the nature vs. nurture debate than he does on the history debate.

5. Espousing the glories of genius gets us nowhere.

(Excerpt) Read more at bnet.com ...


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KEYWORDS: antieulogy; naturenurture; stevejobs
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Her article is not a hit piece against Jobs but makes some valid observations about what has been said about him.

Especially point #4: "Something absolutely fascinating to me about Steve is that Mona Simpson is his biological sister. If you don’t know who Mona Simpson is, take a look at the book “Anywhere But Here.” She is Steve Jobs’ sister and the book is just one of her wildly acclaimed novels. They have the same parents, but Steve was given up as an infant for adoption. And Mona was raised by her mom."

Follow the link for more on this aspect of his life which was news to me. Nature vs. Nurture.

1 posted on 10/19/2011 7:45:28 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

I’ll save the hit attacks for when Gates passes from this world into internal fire, damnation, blue screens of death, and incessent worms,viruses, and malbots.

Jobs = intellect.
Gates = sleezebag.


2 posted on 10/19/2011 7:52:26 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: bigbob

I was a serious PC hobbyist. I work in IT.

I never expected Apple to come back. I hated their locked down systems, and their high prices.

Apple almost went away without Jobs. Jobs also did quite well with Pixar. Not so much with NeXT, but, to quote the Meatloaf song, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad! (Did I really just quote Meatloaf? Ugh.)

Jobs was a genius. Jobs had an impact on the world, and I don’t mind people going over the top in their rememberances. The man passed, they’re sad, and it makes them and his fans feel better.

I wasn’t a fan, but I tip my cap to his genius, and achievements.


3 posted on 10/19/2011 7:53:12 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: brownsfan

NeXT is the basis of the OSX operating system and iOS to a futher extent. I would say he did QUITE well with NeXT.


4 posted on 10/19/2011 7:55:50 AM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: bigbob

>2. Individuals do not make history. Populations do.

This moronically puerile line is plenty enough that I won’t waste my time reading the rest. Individuals DO make history. Individuals do most everything of note. About the only noteworthy things crowds do is riot.


5 posted on 10/19/2011 7:57:24 AM PDT by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: Da Coyote

“Jobs = intellect.
Gates = sleezebag.”

Really?

If Gates is a sleazebag, he’s a very well rewarded sleazebag. Sometimes those who love technology lose sight of what technology businesses are... BUSINESSES.

If you bought Microsoft stock in 1992, you’d LOVE Bill Gates. Bill Gates isn’t worried about advancing technology, but he is a genius.


6 posted on 10/19/2011 7:57:29 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: bigbob
I am a big believer in the nature over nurture concept, but this article seems like a lot of resentment and sour grapes. The key point is `individuals don`t make history, populations do,` and this is utterly absurd. Liberlas love that concept, of course, but individuals MOVE populations to action, and are the flame that ignites the masses to action. That is what makes history. Without the individual spark, there is no history.

Nature creates the POSSIBILITY for genius or creativity.That alone shows that some people simply have `it` and others don`t, no matter how much they may desire that.

7 posted on 10/19/2011 7:57:49 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: smith288

“I would say he did QUITE well with NeXT.”

Not so much if you were a partner in NeXT.


8 posted on 10/19/2011 7:58:41 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: bigbob

This whole article makes me feel stupid for having read it. How did the author both manage to say “it’s more important to raise your kids than to be a top CEO” and also “Steve Jobs proves that nature is more important than nurture” in the same piece?

And the “great man theory of history” may be passe to historians but I’m pretty sure most of the rest of us still take it seriously.


9 posted on 10/19/2011 7:58:41 AM PDT by JenB
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To: bigbob

Great article. It reminds me of the grade school mentality that most people have regarding Henry Ford - that he invented the automobile. What he did was apply the concept of the assembly line, which already existed, to the manufacture of cars, which already existed. And he applied it to a design that was inexpensive enough to enable the sale of the high volumes the assembly line produced.

If he didn’t do it, someone else would have. It is amazing what competition motivates people to do.


10 posted on 10/19/2011 8:00:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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—Did I really just quote Meatloaf?—

“So now I’m prayin’ for the end of time, to hurry up and arrive. ‘Cause if I have to spend another minute with you, I don’t think I can survive”.

I hate to admit that that song STILL cracks me up.


11 posted on 10/19/2011 8:02:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: brownsfan

Individuals do matter greatly. Grant was the general Lincoln has been looking for forever. Without Churchill at the helm, Britain would have made peace with Hitler. Only Einstein could have persuaded FDR to build the bomb. Good knows we need heroes, and while every man is a product of his times, without heroes to lead us, we perish.


12 posted on 10/19/2011 8:02:56 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: brownsfan

“...If you bought Microsoft stock in 1992, you’d LOVE Bill Gates. Bill Gates isn’t worried about advancing technology, but he is a genius...”

Gasp, and had I purchased GM stock years ago, I’d also have been rich...until the biz idiots there made GM the mechanical equivalent of Microsoft.

Einstein said that the mark of stupidity was to do the same thing repeatedly and expect different results.

Tried Windows lately? Windows, yesterday’s technology today.

I’ll say no more on this, but rest assured that there is nothing in any Microsoft product that even approaches state of the art.

Period.


13 posted on 10/19/2011 8:05:04 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: brownsfan

” Bill Gates isn’t worried about advancing technology”

You obviously don’t know Bill.


14 posted on 10/19/2011 8:05:35 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: JenB
Steve Jobs had wonderful inventions in the Tech industry. He was an American businessman and like most people who work hard and gamble his time and capital, he knew that his work was for his family.

When he learned of his liver cancer.

He called the top Estate Attorneys to transfer his wealth to Trust to protect his wealth for his family.

God bless him for that because unlike Buffett and other liars.

15 posted on 10/19/2011 8:07:10 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: JenB

—How did the author both manage to say “it’s more important to raise your kids than to be a top CEO” and also “Steve Jobs proves that nature is more important than nurture” in the same piece?—

I understand it. The two comments are not related, though they appear to be at first glance.

It’s like saying rasing kids is more important than having a photographic memory, but Jobs, as did his sister, had a photographic memory. It was not nurture that gave it to him. It was nature.


16 posted on 10/19/2011 8:08:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: drbuzzard

YES...I noted that also....little commie indoctrination.


17 posted on 10/19/2011 8:09:01 AM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: cuban leaf

One does not have to ascribed to the Great Man theory of history to know that individuals do matter. Yogi Berra is said to have said, when you come to a fork in the road, take it. Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, but do all roads end up in the same place? Would McClellan have been a better choice in 1864 than Lincoln? We will never know. But likely things would not have been the same.


18 posted on 10/19/2011 8:10:05 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: JenB

—How did the author both manage to say “it’s more important to raise your kids than to be a top CEO” and also “Steve Jobs proves that nature is more important than nurture” in the same piece?—

Oops. I forgot the most important part: Nurture is important because it can give a “Jobs” type person important values upon which the virtues given by nature can be applied.


19 posted on 10/19/2011 8:10:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: bigbob
2. Individuals do not make history. Populations do.

So the correct phase would not be Bush = Hitler, but Bush = German?

What a crock of BS. Most people are sheep and need individual leaders.

And before you reply to tell me I'm wrong, do you think that the USA's problems today are not caused by Obama, but the fault of all the population of the USA, including YOU!

20 posted on 10/19/2011 8:12:24 AM PDT by Lockbox (`)
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