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Raisin' [a Few Issues for the Purpose of Honestly Vetting Herman] Cain!
The American Thinker ^ | October 16, 2011 | Joseph Ashby

Posted on 10/16/2011 2:32:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: mylife

If you are a business producing a retailed product and your income tax went down from 35% to 9%, and you got competition, you saying that prices won’t dive?


121 posted on 10/16/2011 5:58:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: palmer
Yeas but it's still about winning elections. If you don't win elections you can't do the work needed. The 9-9-9 plan is dead in the water.

I understand it, I understand the allure of it and I also understand the reality of how Washington gets a hold of these things.

I read in the Washington Post on line that there has been a bit of back tracking on the 9% income tax on poverty level citizens. I want another source but my gut told me that was coming anyway. The next perversion of it will be exemption on those over 65. We already have an exemption for economic empowerment zones which sounds like liberal speak for bad neighborhoods.

Pretty soon you wont even recognize it because it's a political loser.

122 posted on 10/16/2011 5:59:30 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: palmer

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123 posted on 10/16/2011 5:59:48 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

What on earth do you mean by, “My Taxes are already paid free and clear, That is the way I like things.”

Are you referring to IRS withholding from your paycheck? Are you arguing for the status quo? How are your taxes “already paid free and clear”??


124 posted on 10/16/2011 5:59:52 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: mylife

They will consume goods that have become cheaper.


125 posted on 10/16/2011 5:59:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>> They do not realize that due to elimination of hidden taxes, prices would ease under the Cain plan

The plan is revenue neutral; net taxes will NOT be decreasing. They’ll merely be shifted around (adding in another huge entirely new revenue stream for Congress to play with).

Across the board price decreases are fantasy math, similar to the Congressional fantasy of promising spending cuts later if you give in to tax increases now.


126 posted on 10/16/2011 6:00:14 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: mylife

Consumption has made our economy stagnant. We have been borrowing to consume and now that has come to an end. The solution is to save and produce more.


127 posted on 10/16/2011 6:00:22 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Nervous Tick
Across the board price decreases are fantasy math

The only way to justify that statement is to ignore the free market which inevitably lowers prices through competition.

128 posted on 10/16/2011 6:01:45 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Dusty Road; normy
“Where does it say in his plan theat presciption drug’s and food will be taxed? Most states have those as tax exempt.”

Where does it say they wouldn't be taxed? If they weren’t to be taxed he would have put that in his ‘well thought out plan’. He took the time to put in the ghetto tax breaks because that was important to him.

Do you really think tax a federal sales tax plan would tax different states on some things but not others?

Some states tax used items too.

129 posted on 10/16/2011 6:02:02 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Dusty Road
I don't have a link but it's common knowledge. I will search for 1. I know the Fair Tax, which Cain says this is a precursor to, taxes everything.
130 posted on 10/16/2011 6:04:00 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: mylife

Thanks for the link, I am watching it now, but would still like a writeup.


131 posted on 10/16/2011 6:04:19 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Jedidah

I am speaking of savings. Monies that you have already been taxed on, and now this butthead wants
to tax me again at %9 and tell me its a great new beginning?


132 posted on 10/16/2011 6:04:46 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Nervous Tick

The Laffer curve will come into play. 35% is probably well to the right of the Laffer peak. This 27% will open up doors for economic development.


133 posted on 10/16/2011 6:05:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: mylife

No its a consumption tax, dont spend anything and you dont pay it. What part of lower overall tax dont you understand


134 posted on 10/16/2011 6:05:19 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mylife

If retailers’ tax overheads go down, competition will force prices down. Result in purchasing power is better than the status quo.


135 posted on 10/16/2011 6:07:42 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I'd only support the 9-9-9 plan if the preexisting taxes it is supposed to replace are repealed *BEFORE* the plan is put into effect.

And even then, I'm leery of authorizing the federal government to enact a sales tax. For that is a new tax... and who knows what the next party in power will do to it.

It's best not to give the authority to the government at all.

136 posted on 10/16/2011 6:07:44 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: driftdiver

“No its a consumption tax, dont spend anything and you dont pay it.”

Great! No food, elec, heat, Rx, etc etc. Sign me up./sarc.


137 posted on 10/16/2011 6:08:27 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: gogogodzilla

That’s the idea. The bill that establishes the new tax, will also repeal the old.


138 posted on 10/16/2011 6:08:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Beagle8U

You’re paying more than 9% in hidden taxes for these things now.


139 posted on 10/16/2011 6:09:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: palmer
Thanks for the link, I am watching it now, but would still like a writeup

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140 posted on 10/16/2011 6:10:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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