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Herman Cain: pizza boss, radio host, ballistics expert, minister. President?
guardian.co.uk ^ | 8 October 2011 | Staff

Posted on 10/09/2011 5:21:04 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

He is the latest Tea Party favourite to burst through in the increasingly heated race for the Republican presidential nomination and see their poll numbers rocket them to frontrunner status.

However, unlike previous rightwing darlings such as Texas governor Rick Perry and Minnesota congresswoman Michele Bachmann, wealthy businessman Herman Cain, 65, can claim to be cut from a very different sort of cloth from the average Republican candidate.

First, he is not actually a politician. Cain, whose CV includes being a radio show host, a navy ballistics expert, a Baptist minister and a Federal Reserve official, has never held elected office in his life. His most famous job was as chief executive of the fast-food firm Godfather's Pizza.

Yet none of that seemed to matter to the cheering crowds at the Values Voter Summit in a Washington DC hotel late last week. There was much to celebrate. A Zogby opinion poll had just boosted Cain into first place in the race, with 38% of the vote, compared with 18% for former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Perry trailed in third place with 12%. The study even showed Cain beating President Barack Obama in a match-up by 46% to 44%.

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To: Beagle8U; SueRae

As Beagle8u knows 9-9-9 has been out for a while now. He just cannot be bothered to learn any facts that might interfere with his Perry worship time.

http://www.hermancain.com/images/economicgrowth.pdf


221 posted on 10/09/2011 10:03:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; mkjessup
Cain also has little to no chance of getting elected

Right which is why you spend all your time racing around this website posting out of control flaming personal attacks at him

222 posted on 10/09/2011 10:04:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: lahargis
I'm still willing to hear him out on this. If it is to revive dying cities and dying local economies, he might be right.

I thought about everything we spoke about last night, and I have decided that he has more experience than I do regarding numbers and being black in America. I am going to defer to him on both those issues.

223 posted on 10/09/2011 10:04:25 AM PDT by teenyelliott (www.therightscoop.com/herman-cain-brings-the-house-down-at-values-voter-summit/)
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To: MNJohnnie

Just a tip...Cut the pills in half. It might help.


224 posted on 10/09/2011 10:06:19 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: MNJohnnie
cult of personality Perry worship

Same tired old line from someone who won't disagree with even the most outrageous statements from his candidate. Let me know when you can disagree with Cain on something. And pointing out that your candidate says he is black before conservative is entirely relevant to any discussion on whether he should be our nominee for President.
225 posted on 10/09/2011 10:06:50 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: DTxAg
Address the question directed to you.

Don't continue in trying to distort, evade and demagogue in the vain hope it will allow you wiggle off the hook. It is impossible to take you seriously when you refuse to address the comments directed to you by posting per-programed empty Campaign bot responses. Where is the Perry Presidential agenda? What are his plans and ideas? Slogans, speeches full of nice sounding platitudes and "elect me I was a great guy in Texas" are neither plans nor an agenda.

226 posted on 10/09/2011 10:10:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Beagle8U
Address the question directed to you.

Where is the Perry Presidential agenda? What are his plans and ideas? Slogans, speeches full of nice sounding platitudes and "elect me I was a great guy in Texas" are neither plans nor an agenda.

227 posted on 10/09/2011 10:11:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

You don’t get to dictate the terms of the discussion here. Perry has undergone his anal exam, something you were more than happy about. Now that it’s Cain’s turn, you don’t get to demand that all of a sudden we start talking about Perry again.


228 posted on 10/09/2011 10:13:22 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: Nucluside
The only people who would have their taxes “raised” under the Cain plan are those who pay no taxes currently.

There are those people certainly, currently a little under half the population. But there are another percentage who pay some tax but less than what they will pay under the Cain plan. That will no doubt push the number of people facing a tax increase over the 50% mark.

Tax the poor and let them pay for some of their own upkeep.

You expect the poor to be happy about that and to vote for Cain as a result?

Cain does not go far enough in my opinion. Those who pay no taxes shouldn’t be allowed to vote, in my opinion.

Well it isn't a perfect world, is it?

229 posted on 10/09/2011 10:18:33 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: DTxAg
Sorry until you address the question put to you, it is impossible to take your campaign-bot postings seriously

Where is the Perry Presidential agenda?

Slogans, speeches full of empty platitudes, and narcissistic cult of personality worship of his supposed record in Texas are not a Presidential agenda.

230 posted on 10/09/2011 10:19:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I wish we had someone better than anyone running right now.

Period.

Obama is mortally wounded...most of the country is pissed at him.

And this is the best we have?

A flip flop NeoNortheastern moderate

A flipflop slightly more capable Texan..who is more conservative than Romney

and a black businessman who sounds good but does misstep and I will admit it..my Will Robinson flashers are going off over him now...I’ve gone from...first off..race pick yet again...still some truth to that...to then..hey I like this guy...to now...not so sure..he worries me...unpredictable...could be a Souter...I’m telling ya..at least on some stuff

so now what?


231 posted on 10/09/2011 10:24:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (we have entered whatever land here on FR..maybe we will find our bearing again some day)
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To: Huck

Sorry to omit the poster as I’ve forgotten him/her but when you start sayin’ stuff like people who are not for Cain are ‘waiting for their sheets to come back from the dry cleaners,’ it’s getting pretty nasty around here.

It doesn’t speak well for Cain OR for his supporters who seem more and more to be resorting to insults and hysteria.


232 posted on 10/09/2011 10:25:35 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: tirednvirginia
No proven record in the job you are applying for means you don’t get the job

Using your logic, only former presidents would qualify. I want a problem-solver as president, not some professional politician.
233 posted on 10/09/2011 10:26:30 AM PDT by TheCornerOffice
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To: MNJohnnie
Slogans, speeches full of empty platitudes, and narcissistic cult of personality worship of his supposed record in Texas are not a Presidential agenda.

We just went through an evaporation that reminds me of your post...though a bit further north. I'm not happy with any of the front runners...I see potholes and holding my nose. Damned shame considering what is at stake

234 posted on 10/09/2011 10:26:43 AM PDT by wardaddy (we have entered whatever land here on FR..maybe we will find our bearing again some day)
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To: ozarkgirl; mkjessup; sodpoodle

I was not addressing you or your candidate. I was addressing mkjessup who said this to sodpoodle.

“I read some of these sneers and smirks about this good man, and can’t help but wonder if the smirkers are just biding their time until their sheets come back from the dry cleaners. “

One doesn’ have to be black to play the race card. White liberal do this all the ime when their boy, Barack, is criticized.


235 posted on 10/09/2011 10:36:21 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: MNJohnnie
This isn’t your website, and you don’t get to dictate the terms of the discussion. Rick Perry’s record in Texas has been thoroughly examined and criticized.

Now that Cain is up and coming, the spotlight is shining on his record and the things he has said. You don’t like it, which is understandable. Hearing that the guy you support considers himself black before conservative can't be easy. That sort of thing normally belongs in the liberal camp. But all of your insults, name-calling, and immature behavior can't change the fact that Herman Cain's record will be examined, and you don't get to set limits on that discussion.

You can say that I can't be taken seriously. But I'm not the one who said it is OK for towns across America to ban mosques since that doesn't discriminate against any particular religion, Cain did. I'm not the one who said opposition to TARP was based on "economic illiteracy", Cain did. I'm not the one who said I am (insert race) before conservative, Cain did. We will continue to point out these things, and there's not a thing you can do about it.
236 posted on 10/09/2011 10:47:39 AM PDT by DTxAg (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: SoJoCo

I’m sorry but your assumptions are incorrect. That claim is willfully misleading. All Americans workers pay taxes. You need to expand your understanding of the tax code and how it works. Your statements are not accurate.


237 posted on 10/09/2011 10:58:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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Nice sounding speeches and slogans are not an agenda.

Where is the Perry plan that compares to Cain's or Gingrich's or even Santorums?

238 posted on 10/09/2011 11:00:22 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
First, he is not actually a politician.

Not for the lack of trying! He's run for POTUS in 2000 and for US Senate in 2004. He just hasn't closed the deal before. It's disingenuous to state that he's not a politician. Of course who wants to let facts get in the way of this populist emotionalism.

239 posted on 10/09/2011 11:05:56 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: MNJohnnie
All Americans workers pay taxes.

And under Cain's plan most American workers will pay more. Nothing confusing or inaccurate about that.

240 posted on 10/09/2011 11:07:18 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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