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To: pgyanke

Good. No reason for FL to take a back seat to IA and NH. States with substantial populations and diverse economies and demographics deserve their say.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 11:07:20 AM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis

This isn’t a good move...

While I understand Florida wants to separate itself from Super Tuesday, all this does is force out under-funded candidates early, who can’t compete in such a high-cost state.

This is the exact same mistake we made in 2008. Why are we doing it again?


6 posted on 09/30/2011 11:12:32 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Lou Budvis

Iowa and NH serve a valuable purpose. They allow candidates with little money to make a splash early. Iowa and NH and I suppose SC will not move their caucuses/primaries up to go before Florida. My guess is Iowa kicks things off in early January like they did four years ago.


15 posted on 09/30/2011 11:26:15 AM PDT by mcjordansc
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To: Lou Budvis

But they still will take a back seat. This is a good explanation. http://theiowarepublican.com/2011/get-ready-for-an-early-january-caucus-unless-the-rnc-gets-tough-with-florida/


28 posted on 09/30/2011 11:56:52 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Lou Budvis

An earlier FL primary clinching it for John McCain wasn’t really a good thing.


37 posted on 09/30/2011 12:29:12 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Lou Budvis

I agree with you. I don’t know why people have their panties in a twist about this. If any particular candidate can’t get it together and win by then, that’s their problem. I’m tired of NH and Iowa getting to determine who goes on and who doesn’t.


43 posted on 09/30/2011 12:59:32 PM PDT by beandog (You can't elevate Perry by tearing down Palin)
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To: Lou Budvis

“Good. No reason for FL to take a back seat to IA and NH. States with substantial populations and diverse economies and demographics deserve their say.”

Don’t get me wrong i agree its Florida’s say but her population size and economic diversity have nothing to do with Florida’s right to stage their primary anytime they want.

If you ask me States should be encouraged to abandon first past the post in their primary elections and go to an instant runoff primary system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

Basically that gives everyone a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and possibly 4th choice, as a means of institutionalizing compromise in the primary, and encouraging broad appeal.


58 posted on 09/30/2011 5:20:02 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Lou Budvis
States with substantial populations and diverse economies and demographics deserve their say.

And last time around FL primary turned out exactly like NH, except NH had Huckabee third and FL had Giuliani third.

If population is everything, we should just get rid of the electoral college. Allowing candidates who may have good ideas but need to show they can play in smaller states to match their smaller funding is precisely what a primary should be about.

The big-money candidates can compete at the bigger stages earlier, wiping out the smaller ones who could build momentum. Why don't we just toss aside this whole system and simply let the ones with the most money win after a certain cut-off date?

65 posted on 09/30/2011 9:32:11 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (undecided)
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To: Lou Budvis

Well, they’ll still take a back seat...I’ve been told laws are on the books in IA and NH to have their primary before other states...so those 2 will move ahead of Florida.


83 posted on 10/01/2011 7:31:20 AM PDT by shield ((Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Might as well hold all the primary’s at the same time. Florida already gets perhaps one of the most significant says of any state. Its the small States like Idaho & Alaska that get ignored.

Indeed When Sarah Palin ran for vice president in 2008 that was probably the most attention Alaska ever got in a presidential election.

I ain’t questioning Florida’s right to decide how to cast her own electors. Florida has compete authority in this area. But but i also respect the right of the republican party being a private organization to set rules for its nominating convention.

Even as I reject the fairness of them rules which favor some States over others. Iowa may by law require that they go first but that doesn’t mean any other state can’t try to push them so early as to preclude them form relevancy.

To be honest there is something to be said for going later in the game. For example originally States clamored to cast their electors last in order to decide the victor.


96 posted on 10/02/2011 4:06:21 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Lou Budvis

“Good. No reason for FL to take a back seat to IA and NH. States with substantial populations and diverse economies and demographics deserve their say.”

Exactly. This should have been done ages ago.

Don’t forget the economic impact. No point in sending media to cover a state whose primary is late in the cycle. Lots of coverage, polls, research, advertisements, and such on the early states

Of course, the Democrats not counting FL and MI last election allowed Obama to beat Hillary.


98 posted on 10/02/2011 7:20:35 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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