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Florida's January primary is a gamble [Jan. 31, 2012]
St Petersburg Times ^ | 9/30/2011 | Adam C. Smith and Mary Ellen Klas

Posted on 09/30/2011 11:02:14 AM PDT by pgyanke

TALLAHASSEE — State leaders on Friday set Florida's 2012 presidential primary for Jan. 31, bucking national party rules and ensuring that several other states will leapfrog Florida and set earlier elections.

The move was intended to ensure that America's biggest battleground state has a major voice in picking the Republican nomination, much as it did in 2008 when Florida's late January primary effectively clinched the nomination for John McCain.

"It is more important for states such as Florida not to be on the back end, but to be on the front end of these primaries," said former state Sen. Al Lawson of Tallahassee, a member of the primary committee who initially called for Florida to set its primary for Jan. 3.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: elections; fl; florida; primaries
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I have seen a number of articles posted on this subject but they were all about expectations. This one says it is done and set.

Don't know if we have to excerpt this one... but better safe than sorry.

1 posted on 09/30/2011 11:02:16 AM PDT by pgyanke
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To: pgyanke

Good. No reason for FL to take a back seat to IA and NH. States with substantial populations and diverse economies and demographics deserve their say.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 11:07:20 AM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: pgyanke

I don’t trust to click on it.

The big question, is, are they okay with reducing their delegation by 50% in exchange for the violation? or are they going to somehow fight that as well?


3 posted on 09/30/2011 11:07:40 AM PDT by ngat
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To: pgyanke

That will move the early states, Iowa, NH, SC, NV to Dec.

Politics and Christmas don’t go together well.


4 posted on 09/30/2011 11:08:46 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: pgyanke

This is good news. Why let the a northern or mid west state be first. It’s about time to stop letting the GOP control a state’s decision when to have their primary!!!


5 posted on 09/30/2011 11:11:01 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Lou Budvis

This isn’t a good move...

While I understand Florida wants to separate itself from Super Tuesday, all this does is force out under-funded candidates early, who can’t compete in such a high-cost state.

This is the exact same mistake we made in 2008. Why are we doing it again?


6 posted on 09/30/2011 11:12:32 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: shield

It’s not the GOP, the States of Iowa and New Hampshire have laws on the books that each party must hold their caucus (IA)/primary (NH) before any other State’s caucus or Primary.

Again, not a GOP issue, but an issue that these States require.


7 posted on 09/30/2011 11:13:29 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Good grief...sounds like Iowa and NH need to revise their laws. So what will these states do now? What happens with the military ballots now. Aren’t they close to being printed?


8 posted on 09/30/2011 11:17:43 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield

“It’s about time to stop letting the GOP control a state’s decision when to have their primary!!!”

You do realize that the national committee is made up of committee members selected by the states, don’t you?


9 posted on 09/30/2011 11:20:41 AM PDT by ngat
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To: tcrlaf

Sad to say, but the underfunded candidates should be forced out early. I like Bachmann, Santorum and even Newt, but at this point all they are is dilluting the anti-Romney vote. I’m not a big fan of Perry - he doesn’t seem to have the intellectual firepower needed - but he seems to be the most realistic, electable alternative to Romney right now.


10 posted on 09/30/2011 11:21:32 AM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I’ve never understood why those laws were honored. Those states are effectively reaching beyond their own jurisdictions. What would happen if other states passed laws that their primaries must be held before those of IA and NH?


11 posted on 09/30/2011 11:22:31 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“It’s not the GOP, the States of Iowa and New Hampshire have laws on the books that each party must hold their caucus (IA)/primary (NH) before any other State’s caucus or Primary.

Again, not a GOP issue, but an issue that these States require.”

I did not know that. Do you know if that law has ever been tested?


12 posted on 09/30/2011 11:22:48 AM PDT by ngat
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So now, will New Hampshire and Iowa move their's up to December, 2011????

LOL

Why not have ALL States have their primaries on the same date, to eliminate the crap of playing games?

13 posted on 09/30/2011 11:24:13 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: ngat

I was told it was the state of Iowa and NH has laws that require them to hold their primary before any other state. It wasn’t the GOP. Sorry, I thought the GOP had made the rules for when to hold primaries.


14 posted on 09/30/2011 11:24:54 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Iowa and NH serve a valuable purpose. They allow candidates with little money to make a splash early. Iowa and NH and I suppose SC will not move their caucuses/primaries up to go before Florida. My guess is Iowa kicks things off in early January like they did four years ago.


15 posted on 09/30/2011 11:26:15 AM PDT by mcjordansc
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To: Charles Martel
What would happen if other states passed laws that their primaries must be held before those of IA and NH?

Either some sort of wormhole would open or we'd at least rip some sort of hole in space-time.

The whole thing is a big mess, imho. I really wish that states that went strongest for the party in the previous general would go first with the ones that went weakest going last. Why should an "Obama state" get to be at the head of the line in choosing a GOP candidate? A dynamic order would provide incentive to party leaders in every state to get a better turnout for every election.
16 posted on 09/30/2011 11:30:51 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: pgyanke

A break with tradition?

Upsetting the apple cart?

How about, in your face.


17 posted on 09/30/2011 11:31:32 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: shield

Yeah, me too. Now I’m hearing it was some state commission in Fla. requiring BOTH parties to hold the Fla primary election Jan 31, not the state GOP. I can’t seem to get the full accurate info either.


18 posted on 09/30/2011 11:33:42 AM PDT by ngat
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To: shield
It wasn’t the GOP. Sorry, I thought the GOP had made the rules for when to hold primaries.

But they CAN refuse to recognize the delegates right?
19 posted on 09/30/2011 11:34:12 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: shield

First, Iowa and New Hampshire will be required by their State laws to move their events forward in the calendar.

Second, this is not an election required by State law. Each party has it’s own rules for who and when people will vote. The Iowa caucus will have no absentee or overseas military vote, because that’s not how a caucus works. New Hampshire may, or may not, depending on the way State Law works concerning party elections.

These laws are very well known and understood in all election circles, so Florida knew that it was accelerating the pace by making this move.


20 posted on 09/30/2011 11:38:20 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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