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Perry and the Profs - He picked the right fight
Weekly Standard ^ | 9-19-2011 | Andrew Ferguson - Commentary

Posted on 09/10/2011 9:08:18 AM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: dusttoyou
Looks like this caryokie is some important biggie

LOL! Important to someone I hope. Hopefully we all are! :)

61 posted on 09/10/2011 3:10:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: dusttoyou; Carry_Okie

It is FR etiquette to ping someone when you’re talking about them.


62 posted on 09/10/2011 3:15:36 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Disclosure: I disagree with Perry on some issues, but I am skeptical about all the GOP characters, including Palin.

It’s ironic that that the media caricatures Perry as an ignorant yahoo (as in Gulliver’s Travel’s). The transition from paper books to electronic books is as natural and inevitable as the transition from books hand written by teams of scribes to the printing press. And if academics try to protect their paper textbook business, so much for their image as “enlightened.”


63 posted on 09/10/2011 4:02:14 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I’d agree with that.


64 posted on 09/10/2011 4:15:18 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: smoothsailing

I think I am in love.


65 posted on 09/10/2011 4:28:18 PM PDT by BAW (I'm right.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Rubio is a good choice.I also saw Perry/Martinez 2012
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/perry-martinez_591498.html

He is doing good in NH.
http://www.wbur.org/2011/08/15/perry-nh


66 posted on 09/10/2011 4:33:47 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: gogogodzilla

Rick Perry’s fans like his straight-talking style
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/09/MN0A1L2G7G.DTL


67 posted on 09/10/2011 4:53:43 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: smoothsailing

Good article. Certainly give lie to the charge that Perry is just and establishment pol who won’t make wavw.


68 posted on 09/10/2011 5:14:48 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: smoothsailing

69 posted on 09/10/2011 5:29:09 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: dusttoyou; Cincinatus' Wife; smoothsailing; DoughtyOne
Looks like this caryokie is some important biggie, he clams to write speeches and looks likes he’s written a few here for Mutt or RON.

The post says I wrote it for Bill Simon. I'm not claiming to be some big time player, I merely sent it to him as a suggestion. I'd met the guy a couple of times early on and attended one party function just before he won the GOP nomination for governor of California. That's it. Simon is a SOCON, and a far cry from either Romney or Ron Paul. So if that's your standard for paranoid projections masquerading as conclusions, it says a lot more about the reasoning ability of Perry's backers or, more accurately, the lack thereof. Nor was I "stalking" Perry threads. I saw an interesting title on the sidebar and read it, and what did I find but the usual Perry cheerleaders. Sadly, I had to teach them that good criticism too often masks bad remedial policy. It wouldn't be the first time that was true.

Maybe is just an audition and we are just practice.

Please, I have a lot more to do than to seek work in political activism. This crew is hardly worth the effort. When the full-time on-the-party-payroll drum beaters like FairOpinion (since banned) get here, it looks to be quite the battle a brewing. As to spamming and shilling, I haven't even picked a candidate yet. OTOH, having a record of the bogus character assassination, characteristic of Perry's backers, of a long time FReeper who actually posts original material is rather handy for future reference should I choose to become a committed opponent. Nor did one of you ever show how the policy Perry proposes is superior to what I offered with which to contrast Perry's ideas with a less centralized and more free-enterprise and customer-oriented approach.

But hear this and hear it thoroughly: If a candidate proposes a bad idea I will call it as much, and I don't care who it is. As far as I am concerned, State testing in universities is moving in the wrong direction compared to removing the barriers to free-enterprise validation services and its analogy to No Child Left Behind is hardly vague. So, if you choose to back a candidate who later shows to be far less than he or she appeared or claimed to be, I will hold you accountable for your support until you repudiate it as there are a number of FReepers who will tell you.

This is a primary in an election against a destructive Marxist for whom there is little possibility of winning against any conservative in the race (with the possible exception of Palin who, AFAIAC, has poisoned her own well with her unwillingness to make substantive proposals instead of mindless cheer-leading). Best we select the person who most firmly represents conservative principles, "he can win" be damned. That's how we got Reagan. The compromise "he can win" principle got us Nixon, Schwarzenegger, and both Bushes. Yet it has been the disastrous consequences of electing "moderates" that got us Zero in the first place.

Perry talks a good game, but it is obvious that there is less to what he says than there first appears to be. It is in the details that we learn how the man plans to govern. In that regard I am not totally discouraged with him, but neither am I pleased (particularly as regards illegal aliens). There are others in the race who better exemplify conservative free-enterprise principles.

The behavior of a candidates backers also reveals much. In that regard, you have all done much to damage your cause.

70 posted on 09/10/2011 8:46:42 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Carry_Okie

“The behavior of a candidates backers also reveals much. In that regard, you have all done much to damage your cause. “

That could be their intentions too. Look at what campaign manager Ed Rollins has “done for” the candidates he’s been hired by or, rather, assigned to.

There are many avenues for the Statists to travel to guarantee they remain in control of who is running, and the assigning of asswipes to troll sites such as this is quite in keeping with their goals. Heck, the early Libertarian Party was almost immediately assigned nuts from both the Dems and the Pubbies that pretty much guaranteed they be the great powerhouse they are today /s


71 posted on 09/10/2011 9:09:16 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: trisham

Why the heck would I need to ping you, trish? All that talking about trish is only in your head.

After all the Perry Derangement trash from you guys all the etiquette has been aborted.


72 posted on 09/10/2011 9:16:52 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" and ronpaulnutz are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Carry_Okie
The behavior of a candidates backers also reveals much. In that regard, you have all done much to damage your cause.

Well, I guess I've been around here as long as you have and I've seen alot of this foodfighting over candidates.

You're right, it does give insight into the type of person a particular supporter may be.

For that reason I apologize if I offended you.

I'm not involved in any cause, Perry is a candidate I'm interested in, and one I believe may be able to garner the funds necessary to take on Obama and appeal to a broad base.

Personally, I don't much like or trust politicians. I'm a basic kind of person. I want a President who loves my country and will defend it, will promote it here and around the world, will get and keep government off our backs, and make sure the military is properly manned and funded. I think Perry can handle that.

That's about it.

73 posted on 09/10/2011 9:19:15 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: dusttoyou; Carry_Okie
Apparently Carry_Okie intimidates you so much that you choose to talk behind her back.

That's the kind of thing that cowards do.

74 posted on 09/11/2011 7:55:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Intimidated?? You are a busybody to the max. Hell, carryOkie was actively on the thread. Had carryokie had a good defense she should have spoken up.

Last time I was intimidated I was 150 yards up a rockslide armed with camera and met Mother Blackbear a second after meeting Baby Blackbear.

Only way any human is going to intimidate me is to roll up in a Bradley.

I hope you are a very nice person, meaning well. Now go on and find somebody stupid who thinks you are important or relevant.

75 posted on 09/11/2011 11:37:32 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" and ronpaulnutz are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: dusttoyou

76 posted on 09/11/2011 11:51:06 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; dusttoyou; Jim Robinson
Hell, carryOkie was actively on the thread. Had carryokie had a good defense she should have spoken up.

"She" is a he but you were characteristically too lazy to check.

The posting "etiquette" on this forum are the preferences of its OWNER. You are either ignorant or undeserving of Constitutional respect for yours. Take your pick; the evidence indicates the former.

77 posted on 09/11/2011 11:55:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: All; Polybius; Carry_Okie

If behavior of candidates backers reveals much. I’d say the rabid Palin backers that claim they will write in her name no matter what and if it means more Obama, so be it. And the utter nonsense that they are rightfully vetting=bashing Perry because Palin was vetted is utter nonsense. Why was Bachmann trashed and called a RINO by Palin Bots? Do they want every formidable candidate destroyed and alinskyized because Palin was?As far as the argument that all other candidates supporters are bots.Name one formidable candidate that’s supporters say if they’re candidate does not make it they are writing in their name even if it means an Obama win.Only Palin Bots do this. Do they want every formidable candidate destroyed and alinskyized because Palin was?Palin has humility and a servants heart they have: attack all competition with vengeful hearts.

I don’t think carrieokie is anyone’s bot LOL I don’t think carrieokie likes anyone not even Santa Clause LOL ( I am only kidding carrieokie) that is why I applauded the busy body comment.

I am pinging polybius to reference the ‘will write in Palin’s name even if it means Obama wins,’comment as he witnessed it first hand.

DISCLAIMER:I am a tea party supporter.Perry,Bachmann,Palin,West,Cain.There is a difference in being a Palin supporter (of which I am) and a Palin bot.The bots here outnumber all with bully mob rule,quite sadly... The Palin bots play self appointed campaign manager guessing dates acting all cliquey and bully like children;that I have seen even try to get Perry supporters banned by pinging JimRob.(In which they were told by Mister Robinson to get thicker skin) are sometimes confused with those wanting earnest questions answered about a candidate.I think carrieokie is one but it is a rarity.

I have one goal,to get Obama unelected.


78 posted on 09/11/2011 12:34:34 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: Carry_Okie

??? dust was just saying you could do well and did not need a busy body piping in the middle of the argument of which I don’t even know what the original argument was.


79 posted on 09/11/2011 12:43:02 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: dusttoyou
I find your assertions of bravery difficult to imagine, given your propensity to overreact to my posts.

If this is the way you respond to someone who is no threat to you, I can't imagine how hysterical you would be if you met up with a bear.

80 posted on 09/11/2011 2:01:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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