Perry and the Profs - He picked the right fight

Weekly Standard ^ | 9-19-2011 | Andrew Ferguson - Commentary

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

I miss JUSTA too.After this can you blame them for leaving?

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:justanobody/index?brevity=full;tab=comments

The post sounds like a Palin mob rule clique.That does not reflect or represent Palin well at all.I don’t think JUSTA was asked to leave I don’t know for sure.

[EDINVA]

Pathetic. Some of those folks have gone totally around the bend. And, as you say, are doing NO FAVORS to Gov. Palin.

I doubt Justa was asked to leave, probably decided to take a break from the madness that ensues here every four years. I know quite a few old timers who’ve done the same. They’ll probably (hopefully) be back after the primaries. Unfortunately that leaves those who should be ignored dominating some of the threads. (I DO find myself wishing there was an ‘ignore’ option here). Such is life on the internet!

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I am really, really sad to read that Justanobody was driven from this forum. I personally met Justa who drove virtually every single week for years, more than 100 miles each way, to participate in the Friday night Walter Reed FReeps. A better, less self-serving FReeper has never posted on these boards. Driving Justa from this forum is disgraceful.

I will proudly stand shoulder to shoulder with you on your wonderful words about Justa. She is a fine lady, and is the very definition of an American Patriot possessed with a servant's heart.

I had the honor of first meeting Justa in 2006 when I was a volunteer for the Diana Irey for Congress campaign. Diana was running in the 12th Congressional District of Pennsylvania(where I live) against the detestable and corrupt John Murtha.

Justa shared my disgust with Murtha and wanted to come here and volunteer. She drove her RV from her home in Virginia at her own expense and stayed with us for months leading up to the election.

She really knows her way around Walter Reed and made it a point be Diana's host and guide at a Friday Freep. She also arranged for Diana to visit with wounded warriors and their families at Fisher House.

Diana and all of us in the campaign are blessed to know her. Justa even made sure that Diana met Jim Robinson at a Support the Troops rally in DC in September of 2006 that was organized by Kristinn Taylor and the DC Chapter of Free Republic. The picture below is from that day.

Diana and Jim

Diana, Jim, Justa, me

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This thread is a case study in such nonsense. One guy posts a wet-kiss article for the candidate. Then within a short time, people just happen by with a well developed article on the same topic, telling just how good Perry really was. It's so tighly structured that it's clear it wasn't your normal poster giving their two cents worth. It's an organized campaign effort. A good portion of the thread is merely a campaign drive by. The only question is, where do they meet for dinner when they're done gaming the forum.

I posted the article and started the thread. Does that make me the leader of some secret cabal?

If so, I want to get paid, damnit!

[EDINVA]

Thanks for expanding on my thoughts and your personal experience with Justa. As you confirm, Justa did her thing without seeking any bows, with a servant’s heart. I never knew she’d gone to PA to work for Diana Irey. There’s probably LOTS that we don’t know about all her contributions. Hers and many others here who’ve blessed our country quietly with their time, efforts and energy.

Again, it’s my hope she’s just taken a sabbatical and that we’ll see her when the primaries are (blessedly) over.

[DoughtyOne]

“I posted the article and started the thread. Does that make me the leader of some secret cabal?”

I don’t know. Does it? :^)

“If so, I want to get paid, damnit!”

Just a point of clarification if you will. Was that paid, or paid more? LOL

I can only tell you what this all looks like to some of us.

You’ve got every right to object, and if our take on it is wrong so be it.

I have a very hard time backing a man that has done a whole slew of things I simply could not have done. It raises the question for me if his supporters could have done those things.

Perry doesn’t click for me on any level, and I have a very hard time understanding how professed Conservatives could be on fire for him.

When my RINO Governor Pete Wilson ran for President, I refused to endorse or support him. If I wouldn’t support him, I’m sure as he’ll not going to endorse yours.

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it’s my hope she’s just taken a sabbatical

That's probably all it is. I havn't talked to her for a while, but I know she moved and had alot of loose ends to tend to. I suspect we'll see her soon. I may just have to give her a call and see what's cooking! :)

[EDINVA]

When you do, please let me know, and pass along my warmest greetings. Haven’t had an exchange with her in quite some time.

[EyeGuy]

“I welcome all conservatives to the fight.”

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Against hideously overcompensated, grossly unproductive, anti-american, talentless and condescending academics?

Hell, in that fight, I’m already well underway.

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I can only tell you what this all looks like to some of us

I have a very hard time understanding how professed Conservatives could be on fire for him.

I hear ya, and I can tell you what it looks like to me. The product of a vivid imagination, and it's silly. No need to take that personal, it may not apply to you.

I can assure you I'm not on fire for anybody.

As I've said before to others in one fashion or another, I'm not involved in any cause, Perry is a candidate I'm interested in, and one I believe may be able to garner the funds necessary to take on Obama and appeal to a broad base.

Personally, I don't much like or trust politicians. I'm a basic kind of person. I want a President who loves my country and will defend it, will promote it here and around the world, will get and keep government off our backs, and will make sure the military is properly manned, funded, and respected. I think Perry may be able to handle that.

I have four that I'm looking at. Palin, Perry, Cain, and Bachmann, and I'm thinking about getting rid of Bachmann and cutting my roster to three.

I'll leave all the esoteric and philosophical navel gazing to others.

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pass along my warmest greetings

My pleasure! :)

[DoughtyOne]

Not a bad reply, really.  I naturally have some different toughts on this, so I'll relate what they are.

I hear ya, and I can tell you what it looks like to me. The product of a vivid imagination, and it's silly. No need to take that personal, it may not apply to you.

Do you know how many times I've heard this type of comment this year?  It explains away nothing.  It mearly casts folks who have severe concerns over this guy, as being irrational.  I appreciate you mitigating the comment by trying not to make it personal.  None the less, there are things I could not have done, that he did.

I had this same problem when George Bush was foisted off on us.  People said the same thing then.  And of course good old George did some good things, and squandered six fricken years with Republican majorities in the House and the Senate.  The list of things we could have fixed is very very long.  We undid NONE of it.

I don't want to see this happen again.  If that makes me candidate for Kook for the Week, I'll wear the crown gladly.

I could not travel to Mexico and use terminology directly addressing open borders.  I don't care how innocent it may have been, it shows a lack of sensitivity on this issue that is massive.  We have the citizens of Mexico pouring into our nation, we have people dying just about every day because of it, we have women and children getting sexually abused, the resultant crime is rampant, it's been a massive problem for decades, we have between 20 and 35 million illegals here, and he talks about open borders?  Wow.  That was a mistake.  It caused folks to wonder just where his loyalties were.  Was he going to take the border problem seriously?

The citizen land owners in his state could have seen a new highway system proposed that would merely enhance the current highways where they could be, and belt-ways to go around larger metropolitain areas where they couldn't.  This would have saved most of the land rights for most of the citizens of Texas.  Instead this guy plans a massive new highway system that will by necessity take over 70,000 more acres of land from private land-owners, and leave the previous highways where they were too.  Here you have a plan that will cause the most possible disruption and land confiscation.  There isn't a chance I would have signed off on that plan.  Nobody else would either.  He got it totally wrong.

When it came to backing Al Gore in 1988, the choices were to back Bush and continue the Reagan legacy, or back Al Gore and try to get a Democrat controlled House, Senate, and White House.  He opted to take the most destructive path related to Reagan's legacy.  I couldn't have done that.  You couldn't have done that.

These and other personal and public policy decisions, cause me to realize this guy isn't instinctively a Conservative.  He talks a good game.  He maneuvers himself to look good.  His supporters do their best, but you simply cannot explain it all away.  I do not want a third Bush term.  That is what this guy wreaks of.

I can assure you I'm not on fire for anybody.  Okay, great.

As I've said before to others in one fashion or another, I'm not involved in any cause, Perry is a candidate I'm interested in, and one I believe may be able to garner the funds necessary to take on Obama and appeal to a broad base.  I would urge you to quit trying to maneuver for 2012.  My brother's pet Chihuahua would look good compared to Obama in November 2012, and probably raise more money.  Later on in your comments here, you mention other good people.  With elevated status, comes plenty of money.  Nobody is going to lack for funds in 2012.  Well, I take that back.  I think Obama is going to find himself in one hell of a mess.

Personally, I don't much like or trust politicians. I'm a basic kind of person. I want a President who loves my country and will defend it, will promote it here and around the world, will get and keep government off our backs, and will make sure the military is properly manned, funded, and respected. I think Perry may be able to handle that.  Look, Bush loved this country.  I firmly believe that.  Was he the president we needed?  No.  Folks settled on Bush fairly early on, and it was over.  Did I want Gore?  Of course not, but we folded in the primaries way too early.  Bush announced in the fall of 1999, that he had $70 million in a campaign war chest.  That scared the crap out of most folks who might have gotten in.  It actually made me angry.  It telegraphed who the nominee was going to be from the word go.  And it was clear to me that the guy who wanted to grant amnesty wasn't going to be a U. S. First type of guy.  He was always going to worry first about how something would look to the rest of the world.

I have four that I'm looking at. Palin, Perry, Cain, and Bachmann, and I'm thinking about getting rid of Bachmann and cutting my roster to three.  When Palin first agreed to come on the ticket with McCain, I liked the idea because I saw her as a moderating force.  When she backed him for return to his Senate seat, it became clear to me that she actually liked his agenda.  That was the end of her for me right there.  It didn't help that she had supported the LOST Treaty, a U. N. management of the high seas, placing all nations in an subservient role.  She did so because she wanted certain oil rights to the Arctic Ocean.  While that may have worked out well for her, the U. N.'s total control of the seas would have had the potention to cost the U. S. terribly in times of conflict.  It also gave the U. N. an independent income stream for the first time, and quite a healthy one at that.  Her comments on registering illegals so they could stay here and work, didn't help either.

I've addressed Perry.  We've both been less than thrilled with Bachmann this last week, and that pretty much leaves Herman Cain.  I'm still not totally discounting Bachmann, but I will tell you she is on a short leash at this time.  I hope that Cain comes along and develops into a first rate leader.

I say this because I think it would be a great object lesson for Blacks, to see the difference between what Obama and his communist/socialist/marxist/fascist ideology could provide for them, and what Cain and sound Capitalist Free Enterprise System could provide for them.  We could put this whole black vs white, Leftist vs Conservative thing to bed once and for all.

It would also help young Black men to see an excellent role model with top notch moral fiber, doing the right thing.

I'll leave all the esoteric and philosophical navel gazing to others.

Good luck with that.  I agree it would be nice to be able to glide along and take things as they came, but there is a concerted effort to force another RINO off on us, and we simply cannot afford to let our guard down one minute.

I made that mistake in 1999.  Never again!

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Thank you for the post and the great pictures!

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

She told me she was participating in other forums areas on the net.Please tell her DubyaMdees says hi and I am ashamed I did not carry on the Perry ping list as he does have great things to say.She posted the BEST pictures and was actively campaigning in writing West and saying our country needs him.Tell her there is still hope and to get her butt on here because I will be having surgery and she is needed for the ping list and endeavor to ask West to please serve his country; he in needed!

Thanks! :)

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

CORRECTION WEST PING LIST NOT PERRY

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Me too where is my money and free dinner? Post 89 is so ridiculous it is not even worth replying to.

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

IMO there are GOP boys club RINO’s in the senate and house.I kindly disagree on Bush he was a better President than what the MSM want you to think.He was indeed Alinskyized and did NOTHING to counter that but his interviews with his book erased all of the media garbage about him.

I don’t blame Bush I blame the government gone wild RINO club.THEY have to go.Bush is history and will go down in history well favored, I believe.You are letting McDemocrat freak you out too much.Palin endorsed Perry and said you betcha to Romney VP in 2012 and that does not bother you when you are so freaked out about Bush?

No candidate is perfect.Look at Paw Paw endorsing Romney WTH! And I don’t think we will get a hero and TRUE big gov reform.No politician will do this I think Jesus will come first.The elites freak out at Perry calling SS a ponzi scheme do you really think some one will get in there and dismantle the EPA,DOEduc,DoEnergy, and so on and so on, and disavow the UN?I will get on a horse and ride beside you if this can happen.I don’t see Palin being the frontrunner any more than Bachmnn can be,sorry.Like you said then all’s we have is Cain. I don’t think Perry is McDemocrat PERIOD.

I think the same way about West as you do Palin at this stage.But he is not running I face that reality and move on.If he did he would be the frontrunner over all.But I am not in denial.While I GET and understand your McDemocratMcCain dilemma I also snap out of that long enough to realize Obama CANNOT be re-elected PERIOD.Like Bachmann said ObamaCare will be LAW and not able to be touched just like SS.Obama’s current horrific so called jobs plan with a government bank snuck in will be law.We will have to agree to disagree.

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

I have a gut feeling Santorum could surge up to the nomination Obama cannot win w/o PA.

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Me too where is my money and free dinner?

LOL!

I'll probably give Justa a call sometime tomorrow. I'll pass your message along! :)

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

I prefer Chinese.Shrimp Lo Mein and thanks for passing the message along. My last correspondence didn’t sound like she was coming back.I got from it that she was doing what she does best elsewhere on the web she said and poof she was gone. Her graphics on West serving this country in making a decision to run was so heartfelt,so goood.Tell her dubya needs help I am being thrown off a cliff and my surgery is coming up so PLEASE GET BACK HERE NOW!