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Massive power outage hits San Diego
latimes.com/ ^ | 9/8/11 | latimesblogs

Posted on 09/08/2011 4:50:52 PM PDT by dragnet2

Edited on 09/08/2011 4:55:11 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A large swath of San Diego County was without power Thursday afternoon as officials investigated the cause of the outage.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; poweroutage; sandiego; sandiegopoweroutage
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To: Beckett08
From your link...

The FBI said the power outage is not related to the terror threat.

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...San Diego Gas & Electric crews are trying to determine the cause of the outage,... SDG&E representatives say they are looking into the issue and currently do not know what caused the outages.

So which is it? If SG&E has no idea what caused it, how can the FBI already be ruling out terrorism as a cause?

What am I missing?

121 posted on 09/08/2011 6:30:11 PM PDT by Gritty (Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these SOBs (Tea Party) out!-Jimmy Hoffa)
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To: TaraP

That is not pretty.


122 posted on 09/08/2011 6:30:28 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: TaraP
Supermarkets closed...Cops worrying about no Power after it gets dark....

How well behaved is San Diego's indigenous "urban shopping" population?

123 posted on 09/08/2011 6:31:38 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: TaraP

“Supermarkets closed...Cops worrying about no Power after it gets dark....”

Zombie Apocalypse.


124 posted on 09/08/2011 6:31:44 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Gritty

The terror threat was for NYC/DC, and this event is unscripted.


125 posted on 09/08/2011 6:32:25 PM PDT by swamprebel ( proud SOB?Barbarian/ Hobbit!)
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To: TaraP

“Essentially we have two connections from the rest of the world: One of from the north and one is to the east. Both connections are severed,” said the SDG&E official.

The FBI and SDG&E officials said the power outage is not related to the terror threat.

The mayor’s office is asking people to stay off roads and do not use land line phones. He will be holding a press conference at 8 p.m. to discuss the situation.

San Diego County spokesman Mike Workman said that his department was unaware to the cause of what was going on and he is “sending a representative to SDG&E right now.”

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San-Diego-Communities-Experience-Blackout-129493378.html


126 posted on 09/08/2011 6:33:16 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: dragnet2
Unless there is only one feed {transmission line} coming into San Diego they should be able to isolate the down line and re-route. Even if they had the line fixed this moment it would likely take all night to get all places back on. You can't just slam the grid all at once. Instead the utilities will have to dispatch workers to each substation and bring them back up one or several at a time manually or possible remotely but still the same procedure.

If the lights go out in you home generally there is three reset attempts unless it is the transformer fuse etc out on the pole. Third time is the line is still in trouble it goes dead until cleared.

This one sounds like a domino effect failure where the switching stations could not keep up and contain it to one area. IOW the more transmission lines which are lost the higher the demand on working ones causing more failures. In ideal conditions things usually don't go that far. But it happens from time to time.

127 posted on 09/08/2011 6:33:58 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Gritty
So which is it? If SG&E has no idea what caused it, how can the FBI already be ruling out terrorism as a cause?

Be cause that is what those incompetent clowns do EVERY SINGLE TIME(remember Ft. Hood wasn't terrorism). One of the many reasons we should no longer trust our government.

128 posted on 09/08/2011 6:34:36 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: buccaneer81

Parts of San Diego are rough..Gang bangers and druggies

Don’t mean to sound racist, but when the reporter was talking on T.V from one of the downtown streets in SD..2 Black guys kept shouting and getting in the way of the camera, so the reporter said..he was going off for a few minutes to get away from the rudeness of those 2 guys....


129 posted on 09/08/2011 6:34:44 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: swamprebel

Just as a side note:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2775681/posts


130 posted on 09/08/2011 6:34:56 PM PDT by elpinta (John 17:3)
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To: abigailsmybaby

Severed doesn’t mean the lines have been physically cut. It means service has been interrupted. They still don’t know why.


They said that “severed doesn’t mean lines have been physically cut” or you’re figuring that’s what they mean?


131 posted on 09/08/2011 6:35:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: steve86

The only reason for that in Bako is 12ga


132 posted on 09/08/2011 6:37:36 PM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: Raebie
The mayor’s office is asking people to stay off roads and do not use land line phones.

Ma Bell has her own power supply. Phones work off 48 volts DC suppied by batteries and if power fails they have generators to charge the batteries. Better yet if he wants them too stay off land lines then cell lines would apply as well because cells must also use land lines. Cell towers also have their own back up power.

133 posted on 09/08/2011 6:41:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Power is not the issue, it is infrastructure: phone networks are not designed to be used at high usage rates (not too many people on at the same time), and that is the issue.


134 posted on 09/08/2011 6:45:47 PM PDT by elpinta (John 17:3)
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To: elpinta

More than 2 million on both sides of the US-Mexico border without power - AP


135 posted on 09/08/2011 6:46:50 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Beaten Valve

That is not trivial.


136 posted on 09/08/2011 6:48:29 PM PDT by elpinta (John 17:3)
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To: buccaneer81

“How well behaved is San Diego’s indigenous “urban shopping” population?”

I think they are all for redistribution of the wealth on their terms. They call it “social justice”.


137 posted on 09/08/2011 6:49:31 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: kristinn

That was my first guess...not a cut power line though, just a switch turned off.


138 posted on 09/08/2011 6:50:12 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: cva66snipe; elpinta

As elpinta said, the problem isn’t the power supply (even the generators will only last around 24 hours though), it’s the fact that the system can’t handle that kind of load all at once. If everyone crowds the circuits at once, it WILL crash the entire system and that includes 911 systems as well. I know this because of the 10+ years I’ve worked for Verizon and now Frontier as a Outside Plant Engineer.


139 posted on 09/08/2011 6:50:31 PM PDT by Avalon Hussar
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To: elpinta
Power is not the issue, it is infrastructure: phone networks are not designed to be used at high usage rates (not too many people on at the same time), and that is the issue.

I would guess over two thirds of the population only has cordless phones in their home and roughly about a third up too a half of the population in the city actually uses Cable TV phone service. IOW they can't talk right now anyway. No Power? No Cable. With a Ma Bell land line you will have service with cable you won't. With cells? Possibly either way.

The cell phones would put far more stress on infrastructure than land lines. Cells can not function without Ma Bells Land Lines. That's why his statement makes no sense.

140 posted on 09/08/2011 6:53:40 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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