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Obama Dismisses Farmer's Concerns About Regulations: 'Don't Always Believe What You Hear'
FoxNews ^ | August 17, 2011

Posted on 08/17/2011 6:53:55 PM PDT by artichokegrower

During a town hall meeting at Wyffels Hybrids in Atkinson, Illinois, a farmer expressed concern to President Obama about forthcoming regulations. The man stated that people would rather be farming than "filling out forms and permits to do what we like to do." President Obama told the farmer "don't always believe what you hear" and blamed Washington for ginning up speculation.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: chicongo; go4ribs4moochelle; letthemeatwagyabeef; regulations
Ok Obama here's what a farmer has to deal with here in California

Regulatory agencies:

EPA Cal EPA OSHA Cal OSHA California Department Of Pesticide Regulation California Department of Agriculture County Agricultural Commissioner California Department of Labor Department of Homeland Security California Department of Fish and Game California Coastal Commission NOAA County Planning Departments California Air Resources Board California Water Resources Board Central Coast Water Resources Board California Waste Management Board And various environmental busy bodies.

1 posted on 08/17/2011 6:53:58 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Wow.


2 posted on 08/17/2011 6:56:17 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: artichokegrower
Of course!

Doesn't that farmer know that the Messiah knows all?!

3 posted on 08/17/2011 6:57:25 PM PDT by SonofReagan
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To: artichokegrower

“President Obama told the farmer “don’t always believe what you hear” and blamed Washington for ginning up speculation.’

That’s just brillant. What leadership skills.

To use a quote from Don Rickles when he once roasted Ronald Reagan, I’ll use it for Zero, but not a joke:

“Black, white, Jew, Gentile, we are all working for one cause: to figure out how you became President”


4 posted on 08/17/2011 6:58:56 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: artichokegrower

say...I heard that the president was born in Hawaii...and that he was a hard-working genius...


5 posted on 08/17/2011 6:59:41 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: artichokegrower

Posted earlier at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2765126/posts

Obama Dismisses Farmer’s Concerns About Regulations: ‘Don’t Always Believe What You Hear’

Fox News ^ | August 17, 2011

Posted on Wed 17 Aug 2011 03:55:10 PM CDT by Texas Fossil


6 posted on 08/17/2011 6:59:49 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Rennes Templar

Obama has got to be the dumbest man to ever hold any office.


7 posted on 08/17/2011 6:59:57 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: artichokegrower

Vhat! You doubt da vord of das feuher!


8 posted on 08/17/2011 7:00:55 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: artichokegrower
If farm bureaus around the nation hadn't ridden up fast once we learned of Obama's regulatory plan to require Commercial Driver's Licensing and commercial vehicle registration for all farms, farmers, and our equipment it would have slid by in the dark of night.
9 posted on 08/17/2011 7:01:05 PM PDT by Baynative (If the government was in charge of the desert , we'd soon have a shortage of sand.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I wish he was dumb. At least he’d stop saying stupid things.


10 posted on 08/17/2011 7:01:16 PM PDT by MediaMole
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11 posted on 08/17/2011 7:01:35 PM PDT by devolve (If my graphics offend you/HLS scroll down - If too large simply carefully back away from your PC)
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To: Rennes Templar

I don’t think BO has a clue about most of the stuff his administration is doing. They are in liberal utopia mode with a totally absent president who doesn’t question or stand in their way. He just wants to play golf and vacation and party. “Don’t believe what you hear” is just a lame way to get the man to shut up. BO is a lazy bum who directs others to do his work for him and boy are they doing it.


12 posted on 08/17/2011 7:01:49 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: SonofReagan

The farmer told Obama he was spending a lot of time filling out forms and Obama responds by saying, “Don’t believe everything you hear?”

The response doesn’t even make sense.

When you are on a bus tour, you are supposed to listen to people’s problems. The farmer told him directly about a problem he was personally experiencing and then Obama implies that the farmer somehow just heard the problem from someone else?

Unbelievable.

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13 posted on 08/17/2011 7:02:41 PM PDT by bobk333
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To: artichokegrower

The Zero is on a LISTENING tour, folks. He’s got no ‘spaining to do on this route.


14 posted on 08/17/2011 7:03:45 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: GlockThe Vote
Obama has got to be the dumbest man to ever hold any office.

We have a city councilwoman who would give Obummer a good run for the money in the "Most Idiotic Public Official" Contest.
15 posted on 08/17/2011 7:07:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: bobk333

Forms from just one agency that California farmers have to fill out

http://www.swrcb.ca.gov/rwqcb3/water_issues/programs/ag_waivers/noi_submittal.shtml


16 posted on 08/17/2011 7:08:19 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

I don’t believe anything Obama says, but I doubt that’s what he meant.


17 posted on 08/17/2011 7:09:15 PM PDT by twhitak
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To: artichokegrower

Translation: I, Obama, lie with every word I utter.


18 posted on 08/17/2011 7:13:09 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: artichokegrower

19 posted on 08/17/2011 7:13:53 PM PDT by garjog
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To: artichokegrower

Did he also tell that frustrated farmer to eat cake?


20 posted on 08/17/2011 7:14:34 PM PDT by Gritty (What we've got is war,... a war between the taxpayers and the tax-eaters - Wes Pruden)
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To: artichokegrower
Holly Shi#. No wonder California is broke.
21 posted on 08/17/2011 7:15:52 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Rennes Templar

he should have said “This is Opposite Day, Don’t believe everything you hear”


22 posted on 08/17/2011 7:18:12 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: Army Air Corps

“Obama has got to be the dumbest man to ever hold any office.

We have a city councilwoman who would give Obummer a good run for the money in the “Most Idiotic Public Official” Contest. “

Here’s a candidate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbBP9Em00A


23 posted on 08/17/2011 7:18:22 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: bobk333

Insulting responses from Obama yet again....he’ll never get past insulting the intelligence of the American people.

He was yet again blaming” the farmer for not listening correctly....always blaming someone else.


24 posted on 08/17/2011 7:19:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: dandiegirl

the first “golf, vacation and party” president. I like that.


25 posted on 08/17/2011 7:19:32 PM PDT by ab01
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To: artichokegrower

26 posted on 08/17/2011 7:26:36 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Soul of the South

Egad! Dumb as a damned stump!


27 posted on 08/17/2011 7:27:24 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: GlockThe Vote

stupid and arrogant is no way to go through life
No wonder it is so exhausting being ... him


28 posted on 08/17/2011 7:28:29 PM PDT by silverleaf (The super rich do not pay taxes, they collect taxes.)
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To: artichokegrower
"Nobody is more interested in seeing our agricultural sector successful than I am, partly because I come from a farm state."

What?????

That's like some guy from Manhattan, who's never been off the island, saying he comes from a farm state.

This is like Hillary saying she's always been a Yankees fan when she was running for the Senate.

29 posted on 08/17/2011 7:34:02 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Logical me

More of what we farmers in California have to deal with

California Agricultural Diesel Truck Regulations Adopted

The requirements in the draft regulations proposed by the California Air Resources Board covered diesel engines used in trucks and off-the-road applications. It was estimated that the rules would affect almost a million trucks used in the state and thousands of diesel engines used in off-the-road vehicles, such as farm tractors.

By John W. Inman

Last year I wrote about new regulations proposed by the California Air Resources Board (CARB) to control exhaust emissions from diesel engines. The requirements in the draft regulations covered diesel engines used in trucks and off-the-road applications. It was estimated that the rules would affect almost a million trucks used in the state and thousands of diesels engines used in off-the-road vehicles, such as farm tractors. Estimates were that California growers would have to replace or retrofit as many as 400,000 trucks and tens of thousands of older diesel agricultural tractors.

The problem for California agriculture is that many diesel trucks are used for only a few months of the year, usually during harvest season, and operate less than 15,000 miles per year, while an over-the-highway truck may operate 150,000 thousand miles per year. Thus, many trucks used in California agriculture are 10 to 15 or more years old and would have to be retrofitted or replaced.

Meeting Requirements

These draft regulations were part of CARB’s efforts to meet requirements of the Federal Clean Air Act. Although the draft regulations allowed for retrofitting older trucks and exempted trucks operating less than 7,500 miles per year, many older trucks could not be practically retrofitted and the mileage exemption was too low for most diesel trucks used by California growers.

Needless to say, the cost of meeting these new regulations would have placed a tremendous economic burden on California growers, and many California agricultural organizations protested the draft regulations. California Farm Bureau even surveyed its members on diesel truck usage and sent this information to CARB to help the agency understand the problems the regulations would create for California growers.

In December, CARB announced final diesel truck emission rules that gave additional time to comply with the rules for limited-use diesel vehicles. Under the new regulations, trucks with pre-1966 model engines would be exempt from the new regulations until Jan. 1, 2017, if they were used for less than 15,000 miles per year.

For trucks with newer model engines, the annual mileage would go up. For example, for 1996 through 2005 model engines, the mileage limit would be less than 20,000 miles. Low mileage agricultural vehicles with less than 10,000 miles per year use would be exempt until Jan. 1, 2023. These final regulations will allow for a longer transition period and for agricultural truck owners to plan and budget for truck updates to meet the CARB requirements.

Although the final regulations for trucks have made it easier for California agriculture, the final regulations for off-the-road diesel engines have not yet been issued. California growers still do not know if they will have to replace tens of thousands of older farm tractors which will not meet the draft off-the-road standards.


30 posted on 08/17/2011 7:37:36 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

And that is before a seed goes into the ground.


31 posted on 08/17/2011 7:40:41 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin 2012 - Nothing but Net)
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To: bobk333

0bama uses a Strawman arguement so often, he probably believes everyone else concocts tales.

0bama thought he heard the Farmer say ... You know, people say Farmers have to fill out too many forms...


32 posted on 08/17/2011 7:44:30 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: artichokegrower

Obama said “don’t always believe what you hear”. Now that is good advice when you are listening to Obama


33 posted on 08/17/2011 7:46:18 PM PDT by falcon99
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To: artichokegrower

I think we now have a response for every Straw man argument that 0bama lays on us!


34 posted on 08/17/2011 7:46:26 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: artichokegrower
Am taking delivery of 13 2012 Kenworth's to haul freight to the ports in Oakland, Ca.

They have to be certified "clean idle" by Cummins engine, (over 500 dollars additional cost to a new truck for just a stupid sicker on the left door), and have an APU installed because the driver cannot idle inside the ports! Add on 6 grand more for that...

Bet they will want 2010 emmision standards on all APU's next!!!

35 posted on 08/17/2011 7:55:32 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: GlockThe Vote

He has not had an original thought since day one. He just does what they tell him.


36 posted on 08/17/2011 8:12:16 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: artichokegrower

Yeah, it’s a listening tour all right, you get to listen to him drone on and on and on and on.....


37 posted on 08/17/2011 8:24:15 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: artichokegrower

Say what? What did you tell me?


38 posted on 08/17/2011 8:48:32 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: falcon99

Obama will never say anything smart. if he does, the news media will tell you.

Stop wasting your time listening to him.


39 posted on 08/17/2011 8:59:37 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Soul of the South

Soul,
Dat hasta B the funniest example of stupidity run amuck in the hollowed halls of Congress. And people wonder why this country is so screwed up.


40 posted on 08/17/2011 9:10:15 PM PDT by The FIGHTIN Illini (Buckle up - the Bamster's rollercoaster is about to come off the tracks!)
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To: artichokegrower

Say what? What did you tell me?

What are the logical implications of Obama’s statement?


41 posted on 08/17/2011 9:24:40 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: artichokegrower

WOULDNT HAPPEN IN TEXAS


42 posted on 08/17/2011 9:27:53 PM PDT by Mike U Texas (TEXAS)
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