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Who's Picking Your Berries? Feds Find Young Children on Strawberry Farms
ABC News ^ | August 11, 2011 | By AVNI PATEL

Posted on 08/11/2011 8:23:17 PM PDT by Melissa 24

Three southwest Washington strawberry growers were fined $73,000 last week after the U.S. Department of Labor found children between the ages of six and 11 working in their strawberries fields in June.

While an exemption in the federal child labor law allows 12- and 13-year-olds to work for unlimited hours on large agricultural operations, children under the age of 12 are strictly prohibited from working under similar conditions.

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KEYWORDS: berries; child; labor; law
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To: napscoordinator
but you loved your grandparents so you helped out

You bet I did. There were 7 of us (parents, grandparents, uncle and my bother and I) that worked together and ate 2 meals a day together. I could have thrown a rock and hit my grandparents home from our home. It was a great childhood. My brother and I had the run of the place when we were not in the field. We had a jeep that was "ours" and we hunted and fished a lot. We became great shots for quail and dove. We outshot most of the adults. Instinctive quail hunting is a reflex and you never forget it when you learn it.

21 posted on 08/11/2011 9:01:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Parmy
Whatever. These were not family members. These were kids forced to do this. If you want to hire 18 year olds to work your business than you should be training them. It is your business and you should have some personal interest in making sure these kids know what you want them to do. Big difference between 18 years old and these children. We didn't work until out of high school or even college in some cases in my family and we are all professionals working in good jobs. Kids need to be concentrating on education as a child not working.....they have their whole life to work. My kids don't work either. They have chores like take out the trash. But not cutting down acres of wheat.
22 posted on 08/11/2011 9:02:50 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Parmy
You're painting with a mighty broad brush there. I know many 17, 18 & 19 year-olds with strong work ethics. In most cases the apples do not fall far from the trees.
23 posted on 08/11/2011 9:03:20 PM PDT by Melissa 24 (I Brake For Epiphanies)
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To: Melissa 24

When we were kids in boyscouts we spent a whole summer cutting and bailing hay and pulling poisonous weeds from a farmer’s pasture.

Our troop leaders called it the “Agriculture Merit Badge”

Hell - we didn’t even get paid!


24 posted on 08/11/2011 9:04:07 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Melissa 24

thats “fingers”,, apparently whiskey affects my spelling. Odd,,,


25 posted on 08/11/2011 9:04:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Texas Fossil

That does sound like fun. However, these kids did not have that experience. I went to my Grandparents for two weeks in the Summer and picked strawberries and various other fruits and veggies. But it was a couple hours in the morning and then running around the property with friends. In the afternoon, we might go up and help Grandma “break’ the peas for an hour or so. This was a wonderful fun experience too. These kids in this story did not have that experience either.


26 posted on 08/11/2011 9:06:06 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Melissa 24
unlimited hours

You are completely misunderstanding the "unlimited hours" aspect. The reason that farm labor is deliberately unlimited is because sometimes, for very short bursts, there exists a need to go harvest stuff quickly. Food that is about to rot in the field can't wait for the same asshat bureaucratic rule-maker idiot to render a verdict. So farming families have a pass on the normal rules that encumber most other types of family businesses.

"Unlimited hours" doesn't mean that there's some jerk making kids work an infinite amount of time. It means literally what it says. It's not limited, in the passive voice sense. There is no idiot outsider who knows almost nothing about how food is pulled up out of the ground who is given power to direct how farm labor is applied.

I had working papers but no one would hire me. Babysitting was about it.

That lack of skill and education also means that you are probably one of the last people who should be trying to effect changes in the policies that direct how your food is provided to you.

27 posted on 08/11/2011 9:06:34 PM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: tiki

I well remember when babies and young kids were pulled on cotton sacks as their mothers picked.

As kids we got out of school in the spring to work until crops were laid by. Went back to school until the fall, then back out to gather the crops in before winter.

And, it was not just for family farms, during cotton chopping, the contractor trucks would pick us up at 5 am. We worked ten hour days swinging a hoe for 50 cents an hour. It was just the way of life for us back then and was no big deal, didn’t like it, but we did what was expected of us to help out.


28 posted on 08/11/2011 9:07:47 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Obama may not be a natural born citizen, but there is no denying that he is a natural born liar.)
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To: Melissa 24
Send them to me and I will put them to work. There's not as many as you might think. And, just because there might be a few willing to work, what do they know?

Once again, as I told one lazy 18 year old that he was a P---y. There were kids his same age getting killed, losing arms, legs and being horribly burned so he could be a lazy slug.

29 posted on 08/11/2011 9:08:02 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Thrownatbirth

Did you even read the article. This is not working a family or neighbor family. This is commercial businesses who are forcing these kids to work the fields. Plus they are not even getting paid minimum wage. No wonder they got slapped with a fine.


30 posted on 08/11/2011 9:10:18 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
Whatever. These were not family members. These were kids forced to do this. If you want to hire 18 year olds to work your business than you should be training them. It is your business and you should have some personal interest in making sure these kids know what you want them to do. Big difference between 18 years old and these children. We didn't work until out of high school or even college in some cases in my family and we are all professionals working in good jobs. Kids need to be concentrating on education as a child not working.....they have their whole life to work. My kids don't work either. They have chores like take out the trash. But not cutting down acres of wheat.

Yeah, whatever.

Good that your kids are all pro and all that.

Not all families and all kids have that luxury. That's friggin' life.

My mom picked Cotton and soy beans in her childhood. It was tough on her. But she never saw herself as a poor abused baby.

No. She raised children who knew the value of work, and of education..we did not want to go where she had been.

So, some children have it hard...that's LIFE.

31 posted on 08/11/2011 9:13:25 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I should let my parents know that I was abused as a child! I wonder if I can collect any back pay? /s. I don’t remember getting paid for working in our garden, feeding cows, pigs and chickens. Abused, I tell ya!

The government says it hurts the kid’s backs to bend over and pick berries. I wonder if they care about the kids carrying book bags that give them back aches because the teachers give them so much homework?


32 posted on 08/11/2011 9:18:49 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Melissa 24

When picking berries you get paid by the flat....the kids are helping their family earn money. I first did this when I was about 10 years old (my sister was 9, and my brother was 7).


33 posted on 08/11/2011 9:19:38 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: napscoordinator

YOU didn’t work until you were out of high school? You must have been RICH!


34 posted on 08/11/2011 9:21:30 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: Melissa 24
Source article, and it is not recent

“ABC News Investigation: The Blueberry Children”

Oct. 30, 2009

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/young-children-working-blueberry-fields-walmart-severs-ties/story?id=8951044&page=2

The Obama administration's Secretary of Labor, Hilda Solis, promised a crackdown on child labor violations after taking office.

This summer, labor inspectors cited blueberry growers in North Carolina, Arkansas and New Jersey for using children in their fields, with fines averaging $1,100 per child.

35 posted on 08/11/2011 9:23:44 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Melissa 24
There is an epidemic of illegal child labor:

We need more Federal raids.

36 posted on 08/11/2011 9:25:10 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: napscoordinator
When I was a kid {born in late 50's} in the 60's and 70's summer jobs for kids in my rural neighborhood were farm jobs. There were no paper routes etc. If it was hay bailing time that meant work beginning in the morning and working till dark or later if weather was a threat and the last bale in the barn safe and dry. Tobacco time? Same thing and that is one hard and sweaty job. I helped out a friend once put his tobacco up because weather threatened.

Strawberries? One neighbor raised them and had a very willing picking crew living next door too him. Nine kids IIRC who's parents were dirt poor and this meant money too the kids they could spend. Money their parents didn't have to give them. When crops came in farmers hired willing too work kids. Yes some parents FORCED their kids to go and work for Farmer Joe even as far as shoveling manure out of his barn. Others send their kids out with the tractor. When I lived in town parents sent kids out with push mowers to earn money. Unfortunately for me allergies kept me out of most farm work as a kid especially with hay and strawberries.

In my state I dare say a neighboring county known as the the tomato capitol uses kid labor for harvest time as well.

BTW my wife spent quite a few years of her childhood in the 50's and early 60's in southeastern Arkansas. One school field trip was a day of picking cotton in a local field. Yes they got paid by the farmer.

37 posted on 08/11/2011 9:45:39 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Melissa 24

I picked beans and berries on farms and I’m better for it. Also mowed lawns scooped snow and split firewood; I don’t remember a gun to my head just money in my pocket.


38 posted on 08/11/2011 9:50:52 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: Sea Parrot

When I was a child in grade school, and all grades, in up state Michigan, we were let out of school for two weeks in october for potato picking vacation..... and that is what we done, picked potatoes off the fields to go to market, and it did not hurt any one.... We picked cherries at a very young age, to earn money, and also strawberries paid by the quart, by the farmer, actually picking strawberries is not hard labor, especially as a small kid, close to the crop...


39 posted on 08/11/2011 9:56:39 PM PDT by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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To: napscoordinator

Picking berries is piece work and I don’t believe you could force a kid to work unless it was fair.


40 posted on 08/11/2011 10:05:48 PM PDT by the_daug
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