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Toledo police spokesperson: Defending self during armed robbery "just not worth it"(OH)
Buckeye Firearms Association ^ | 1 August, 2011 | cbaus

Posted on 08/02/2011 7:44:42 AM PDT by marktwain

After four jewelry store holdups in the past month, a Toledo police department spokesperson is reminding citizens that while they have a right to defend themselves, they really shouldn't bother.

"You may just end up in a big gun battle and the store owner may get the suspect they may get the store owner and no telling what bystanders might be involved so its just really not worth it." (emphasis added)

FLASHBACK 2009:

25-year police veteran to Toledo residents: "Buy guns. Invest in precious metals: lead, gun power and brass."

Toledo Mayor tells residents police can't protect them

Toledo residents continue trend of gun buying in wake of police layoffs

(Excerpt) Read more at buckeyefirearms.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; oh; toledo
Video of one of the holdups at the link.
1 posted on 08/02/2011 7:44:45 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I want to see the video of the spokesperson and the Mayor, while they stand by and see their family home gutted, family raped, tortured and killed and every thing they own stolen... and they do nothing as it is sorta not worth doing anything, right???

Great to stand behind “protection” and sprout crap.....

Some animals are more equal than others.

Wonder how their explaining this to their families, no kids, no wife, no mother and father, I shall not do anything to help or save you... it is not worth it.

Lying IDDDDIOTTTTTSSSS ping

EL


2 posted on 08/02/2011 7:51:31 AM PDT by Eureka_Lead (No political party has ever become a dictatorship when the citizens have firearms - Stay Vigilant)
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To: marktwain

When I lived in Toledo a police spokesman once expressed surprise at the revelation that a port city of 300,000 had a fair amount of prostitution going on.

The guy’s name (and I am NOT making this up....) was Sergeant Schultz!


3 posted on 08/02/2011 7:53:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The guy’s name (and I am NOT making this up....) was Sergeant Schultz!

I see *nothing*! I hear *nothing*!

LOL

4 posted on 08/02/2011 8:01:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Holy Toledo !


5 posted on 08/02/2011 8:03:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: marktwain

Not worth it to whom? To you? You’re not me. If I get killed or my daughter gets raped, it’s not the end of the world to you. It’s just another police call. To me, it’s the end of the world. That’s because you’re not me. What’s “not worth it” to you is very much “worth it” to me.

What a rocket scientist.


6 posted on 08/02/2011 8:06:21 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Eureka_Lead
Move, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Abner Whatever, .............

However many they shoot, and wherever those stray rounds may go, only the police are immune from prosecution for murder.

"For there is no situation which cannot be made much worse by the arrival of the police"

7 posted on 08/02/2011 8:06:48 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: blackdog

Your pizza will arrive faster than any cop. And be sure to hide the dog.


8 posted on 08/02/2011 8:12:42 AM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: marktwain
""You may just end up in a big gun battle and the store owner may get the suspect they may get the store owner and no telling what bystanders might be involved so its just really not worth it."

Translation: "We the police are the only ones with firearms because we are the professionals.

What is the saying: when seconds counts, police are minutes away

9 posted on 08/02/2011 8:16:10 AM PDT by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: greatdefender
No, what it really means is:

Go ahead and let them murder you, it makes our paperwork much easier.

10 posted on 08/02/2011 8:27:24 AM PDT by farmguy
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To: marktwain

It’s a union thing...they’d rather write up your murder than have you stop the bad guys.

It’s bad for cop business when you make the price for crime too high.


11 posted on 08/02/2011 8:50:05 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: farmguy
Thats true. One thing is certain: Courts has established that police has no constitutional obligation to protect the public. In fact, not too long ago, a Judge in Cleveland once said: "people, arm up!".

Cities like Toledo and Cleveland are crime-infested and the police and other law enforcement agencies are short handed. Thus, leaving people only to defend themselves, their family and others around them. Because they know this simple equation: police layoff = higher crime rate.

As President Lincoln once said to a visitor during a White House tour: You may fool everyone some of the time or some people all the time, but you cannot fool everyone all the time.

12 posted on 08/02/2011 8:59:23 AM PDT by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: marktwain
Ah, Toledo. I was doing election poll watching there in 2008. I've seen worse, but I've also seen a lot better.

Michigan and Ohio fought a brief war over Toledo. Michigan won and got the UP while Ohio was forced to keep Toledo.

13 posted on 08/02/2011 9:08:12 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I am not lead by any politician. I am my own leader.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Yes, the Toledo War. It almost became the first American-on-American shooting war, thirty years before the Civil War.

Both Michigan and Ohio coveted Maumee Bay, which was a good natural harbor. Michigan was still a Territory and the Territorial Governor decided to send his militia and occupy Toledo. The thinking was that would solidify his claim when they became a State a few years later.

The Governor of Ohio responded by ordering his militia to retake the town. Fortunately they got bogged down in a massive swamp around Bowling Green. Otherwise an actual battle would have occurred.

Congress then intervened. Andrew Jackson fired the territorial governor of Michigan, and Toledo was given to Ohio. Michigan became a state 2 yrs later and received the Upper Peninsula in return. I’d say they got the better part of that deal.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 9:22:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: marktwain
"You may just end up in a big gun battle and the store owner may get the suspect they may get the store owner and no telling what bystanders might be involved so its just really not worth it." (emphasis added)

He puts a lot of faith in the intentions of bad guys as well as in his own ability to divine them.

15 posted on 08/02/2011 9:53:39 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: G Larry
“You may just end up in a big gun battle and the store owner may get the suspect they may get the store owner and no telling what bystanders might be involved so its just really not worth it.”

So maybe we should avoid that altogether by just disarming the Police?

16 posted on 08/02/2011 10:11:04 AM PDT by HammerT (The Obama Recession, you bone it, you own it.)
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