"Fiscal responsibility in our time!"
Posted on 07/31/2011 11:33:36 PM PDT by Rabin
Edited on 08/01/2011 8:38:33 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
An astute observation. Having to rely on the +/- 20% of voters who give no thught whatsoever to to matters political is not necessarily a recipe for resounding victory.
Patting each other on the back...
Allowing government and its debt to grow massively for another two years insures that the Republicans will have to make even MORE DRACONIAN CUTS if they take control of Congress and White House in 2013.
If the Republican party will be destroyed by administering pain, better it be destroyed RIGHT NOW when there is a chance to save the country.
If the country is destroyed by financial failure, neither major party will be worth a nickel.
There is no middle ground on insolvency.
You stop spending and borrowing immediately when you are this far into massive debt.
What this deal does is acknowledge to the world the problem is insurmountable and virtually assures a violent upheaval in this country when the American financial system inevitably collapses.
Extremely painful cuts need to be made RIGHT NOW to even have a chance to save this country.
Putting off massive cuts for another day continues the same irresponsible behavior by American congresses for the past 75 years.
This deal represents a failure of the American experiment. This is a people who cannot responsibly govern themselves. This is a people living in a fairy-tale-world that is quickly becoming their worst nightmare.
By making this deal, the GOP can redirect the attention to jobs and this ailing economy, Obama’s primary areas of weakness with voters.
Agreed. When 60% of America pays no attention to politics, 98% of the media carries the water of the liberals, and the demonRATS control the senate and white hut we got all we could.
President Palin will kick their ass.
You’ve heard the expression, “starving the beast”?
With no new sources of revenue this is what has happened. For the libs to attempt to increase spending again with this issue front and center in the public eye would sound the death knell for them, even with the media carrying their water.
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Same here....it was always going to get done. There was NEVER a question of that. Republicans just had to make the deal to not raise taxes etc. Which appears they did.
The deal isn't great, but considering we only control one house; our goal should be singular - 2012 - get the White House, the Senate and keep the House.
Over the past 2 weeks, The One with the enabling press have had the upper hand, IMHO. We were painted as the obstructionists (even though only we had the courage to put forth plan after plan to silence from the Dems.)
Only in the last day or two has the tide turned where the GOP held together and got most of what they want FOR NOW. No new taxes; another shot at $1.2T in cuts later this year; avert being labeled the “party of No” (Nancy might get that name if she blocks the deal). Possibility of voting on BBA.
We need public opinion on our side for 2012. We need the White House to control the Supreme Court. We need the White House to stop the bleeding and reverse Obamacare. We need to address entitlements - the core of our welfare society.
No other scenario on the debt crisis would have delivered this. Maybe we could have shut down the government for a couple of weeks, but we could have never scored a PR success like this deal. Even the libs on the radio are comparing Obama’s speech last night to Carter. Doesn't get much better.
Sure, would have preferred something stronger, but with this President, Harry Reid and an adoring press, it was just not meant to be. Good job Boehner and McConnell.
Right. And automatic spending cuts (no new taxes) if the committee can't agree. The GOP got a good deal, and the Tea Party people were a big help. No doubt about it. We got the best deal possible and the whole debate has left Obama looking pretty feckless.
I agree that it was good work by the House GOP.
I agree with you. This was probably as good a deal as we could get. We did not budge on taxes! Republicans only control half of one branch of government. The main advantage we had is that budget and tax bills must originate in the house (the only thing we control).
I'm going to call my new congressman's office to support his position on this plan. I remember the 1995 government shutdown, and it didn't do anything to help Republicans beat Clinton in 1996, so we got 4 more years of Clinton.
Please do not spam me with your platitudes and excuses for the the plantation Republicans. Take your pom-poms and go.
I’ll agree but one had hope. The fact it is mostly all the idiots who we knew were bad at least 5 years ago. Couldn’t beat McCain. Couldn’t get Christine O’Donnell and Sharron Angle and that Guy in Washington State elected. Didn’t win Senate and the Pubs in the senate other than a very few are nuts.
Obama WILL get his tax increases with or without being included in this deal.
This is all smoke and mirrors. This deal will do absolutely nothing to control spending in Washington.
By the end of O-bozo’s term, the national debt will be close to 20 trillion. This is a debt cutting deal?
We are being snookered once again. Senators, Reps, the White House and the MSM are trumping this up as if it were the deal of the century.
I hope the house drags this to a screeching halt.
THere was the “NEW DEAL”, the “FAIR DEAL” and the “BIG F*CKING DEAL”.
I’m for the “NO DEAL”. House veto. Obame, figure it out what 40% to cut and trash him if he picks wrong.
At most, the House could have split the difference: Give Obama half the borrowing in monthly installments through 2012 and let him defund 20% of the government, repeal ObamaCare and extend the Bush tax cuts permanently, take it or leave it. It would have been a brilliant learning experience for everyone.
"Fiscal responsibility in our time!"
I’m for the “NO DEAL”. House veto.
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Agreed. Then immediately present a more austere bill than originally submitted, that does away with all funding for NPR or the NEA, as examples. Rinse and repeat as needed. Kill a leftwing sacred cow with each amended plan until they cave.
You are not going to undo 100 years of Progressive politics with a single vote.
This is a battle in a much larger, longer war.
This is what is wrong with too many supposed "Conservatives". You are so use to screaming and whining about everything you are incapable of doing anything else. You think of Politics as sport. It is not. It is war.
You Internet Conservatives think that there is either absolute victory, or absolute defeat and nothing in between.
US Politics doesn't work that way. Our Founders designed a system that is evolutionary, not revolutionary, in it's working. You are NEVER going to win one grand annihilating victory that forever changes everything to be exactly what you feel it should be. Our political system is specifically designed to prevent such events.
So instead of looking for some titanic great victory and then being pissed when you don't get it, learn to take your victories as they come and start on the next battle.
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