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Rice Lashes Out at Russia for Blocking U.N. Council From Tackling Climate Change
FOX NEWS ^ | 7-21-11 | Fox News

Posted on 07/21/2011 9:34:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice this week issued a blistering rebuke of Russia, China and other countries that blocked the Security Council from adopting a statement linking the threat of climate change to international peace and security.

During the Security Council’s first formal debate in four years on the environment Wednesday, Russia was not swayed by Western nations led by Germany, this month's council president, insisting that the 15-nation panel needs to respond to the effects that climate change has had on Sudan's Darfur region and in Somalia, where the United Nations say famine had struck two areas.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; climatechange; germany; globalwarming; golbalwarming; notcondirice; rice; russia; susan; susanrice; susanriceun; un; whacko
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Yeah, you read that right....

The UNITED STATES wants the United Nations Security Council to declare GLOBAL WARMING/The Religion of Climate Change to be a WORLDWIDE THREAT, like War.

Famine is NOT caused by War, economic unrest, or living in a damned desert, it's caused by CLIMATE CHANGE! Yeah, that's it! (I think I'm just gonna hurl...)

Did you ever, and I mean EVER IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, think you would be thanking RUSSIA for standing up to lunatic fringe crap from the United States, in the UN Security Council?

1 posted on 07/21/2011 9:34:32 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Achim Steiner, executive director of the U.N. Environment Program, warned the council that time is running out to respond.

“It is the speed of environmental change, including climate change, that will be increasingly at the heart of our collective concern and response,” he said in a statement posted on the U.N. website.

“There can be little doubt today that climate change has potentially far-reaching implications for global stability and security in economic, social and environmental terms which will increasingly transcend the capacity of individual nation states to manage.”

FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!


2 posted on 07/21/2011 9:35:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: tcrlaf

Um..... Thank You China and Russia???!!!


3 posted on 07/21/2011 9:38:14 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: tcrlaf

This administration is like having General Motors run by 7th graders ...Oh wait...


4 posted on 07/21/2011 9:39:02 PM PDT by Baynative (Are you a Free Republic monthly donor yet? If so, thanks. If not, why?)
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To: tcrlaf

I neer thought I would live to see the day when Russia and China were the voices of reason and moderation and the US was the wild eyed radical.

But then I never thought I would see the day when the population had been dumbed down enough to elect an empty suit like Obama to the presidency.


5 posted on 07/21/2011 9:39:27 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: tcrlaf

Does this mean I have to support Russia and China in this matter?


6 posted on 07/21/2011 9:41:29 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: wastedyears

Yep.... and India .... and Brazil

The BRIC’s ain’t gonna play this silly game.


7 posted on 07/21/2011 9:44:26 PM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: tcrlaf

F you, Lib.


8 posted on 07/21/2011 9:45:09 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: tcrlaf

I give up!


9 posted on 07/21/2011 9:46:01 PM PDT by 20 years too late
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To: tcrlaf

HAHAHA

the obama administration is a little too far left for the commies! I LOVE IT!


10 posted on 07/21/2011 9:49:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: tcrlaf
"We don't do Global Warming here silly American woman. How about I send you to Siberia to monitor all the warming?"


11 posted on 07/21/2011 9:50:28 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: tcrlaf

Idiots everywhere....


12 posted on 07/21/2011 9:50:48 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: tcrlaf

Oh the irony, Russia defends the world’s liberty from U.S. attacks.


13 posted on 07/21/2011 9:52:56 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: tcrlaf
IF, hypothetically, you agreed with the global warming fools, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING YOU COULD DO TO CHANGE IT!!

Developing countries such as ChIna and India would do nothing to cap or change anything. We would just be handing them an even more unequal economic playing field for nothing that would “help the planet” in return.

I recycle and reuse items not to “decrease my carbon foot print” but to save a little money, keep my personal space clean, and not be wasteful.

It's lack of personal responsibility and teaching our families to be self-sufficient that has encouraged this nanny state “we know better than you, save the planet” mentality.

Seriously, I'm sick of people flying in private jets, celebrities buying $10,000 designer dresses telling me how to live and how to spend my money. Have your dress and your jet or don't because you think it's bad but shut the hell up and stop taking my money!!!

14 posted on 07/21/2011 9:58:56 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: tcrlaf
Did you ever, and I mean EVER IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, think you would be thanking RUSSIA for standing up to lunatic fringe crap ...

I've been doing that quite a bit the last couple of years.
Apparently Russia was the one that blew the lid on this Global Warming conspiracy when they released/hacked the emails that showed Mann and crew cooking the data ('hide the decline', etc).
They banned homosexual parades in Moscow.
Putin has lectured the United States on spending less and getting a control of their (our) budget.
And now this, telling the UN to pound sand when they try to edict this worship of Gaia to create another global tax on 'carbon producers' (aka, people)...

What the Heck...
Its a very sad day when the USA is more communist than the commies of Russia, and when our print media makes Pravda look like a beacon of truth...

15 posted on 07/21/2011 10:01:30 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: tcrlaf
Did you ever, and I mean EVER IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, think you would be thanking RUSSIA for standing up to lunatic fringe crap from the United States, in the UN Security Council?

No, but I am glad Russian leaders seem to have some sense on this issue.

16 posted on 07/21/2011 10:05:22 PM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: tcrlaf
Maybe Russia is protecting their climate weapons?
17 posted on 07/21/2011 10:13:54 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Baynative
Shameful...

The world is laughing at us FRiends.

I think most Americans back home don't have a clue as to how embarrassing this is for many of us overseas.

18 posted on 07/21/2011 10:19:01 PM PDT by expatguy (Donations make Expat Better!)
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To: tcrlaf
Sorry biatch but I'm with Russia and China on this one.

It's time for Americans to throw that freeloading U.N. bunch out of our country anyway. The free ride is over.

19 posted on 07/21/2011 10:21:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Barry! Compromise this!!!)
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To: tcrlaf

Bravo and kudos to Russia, China, and the others countries who would not buy into the US and UN BS on “climate change”...which last year and the year before was “global warming”..... =.=


20 posted on 07/21/2011 10:28:55 PM PDT by cranked
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...Germany, this month's council president, insisting that the 15-nation panel needs to respond to the effects that climate change has had on Sudan's Darfur region and in Somalia, where the United Nations say famine had struck two areas...


Ethiopia is between the two countries mentioned (Sudan and Somalia). Does Rice blame Global Warming (err.. Climate Change) for the giant 1888 famine there?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1139963/pdf/medhist00069-0113.pdf

That part of Africa has always had famines.

21 posted on 07/21/2011 11:32:38 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: tcrlaf

WOW, I’m cheering for Russia and China on this and thumbs down on America. Things are really bass ackwards..


22 posted on 07/22/2011 12:16:10 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: tcrlaf

Actually, famine CAN be caused by climate change, but climate change is not caused by humans, so there is nothing that the UN can do to stop it. Their money would be better spent in helping people to adapt the the climate change that might be occurring.


23 posted on 07/22/2011 12:18:12 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: tcrlaf

Wow... Getting our butts saved by the Russians... What a world!


24 posted on 07/22/2011 12:20:12 AM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: tcrlaf

We’ve passed the point of absurd.

At face value, I’d call them morons, but there’s nothing ‘moronic’ about it. They are trying to ruin us INTENTIONALLY!


25 posted on 07/22/2011 1:16:38 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: El Cid

And now they are building churches in Russia, while we are converting them to mosques in America.


26 posted on 07/22/2011 2:51:04 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: tcrlaf

Everyday. I mean every fricking day, there is something out of this administration. It’s like we’ve got a Senior High School president in the WH.


27 posted on 07/22/2011 3:17:34 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: tcrlaf
U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice this week issued a blistering rebuke of Russia, China and other countries that blocked the Security Council from adopting a statement linking the threat of climate change to international peace and security.

Given that we just canceled our future by shutting down the space program, it cannot be much of a surprise to see the USA basing policy on a fraudulent, unscientific claim. Russia, China, and other countries got it correct.

Certainly there is and will continue to be climate change, but that is owing to natural causes (mainly the Sun), and has nothing to do with mankind. The USA is looking more foolish every day under this "Democratic" Administration.

28 posted on 07/22/2011 3:42:58 AM PDT by olezip
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To: sand88

Try picturing a world in which Sweden was a major power... Tsar Peter saved us from that.


29 posted on 07/22/2011 5:53:24 AM PDT by redroller
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To: az_gila
...Germany, this month's council president, insisting that the 15-nation panel needs to respond to the effects that climate change has had on Sudan's Darfur region and in Somalia, where the United Nations say famine had struck two areas...

These socialist idiots don't recognize how anthropogenic desertification works, which is appropriate considering what they're doing to the Great Basin her in North America.

30 posted on 07/22/2011 6:07:30 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: SuziQ; Ernest_at_the_Beach; blam
but climate change is not caused by humans,

Oh yes it can be and has been, just not the way these crooked idiot greenies are proffering it. Bad vegetation management has induced deserts on a continental scale which can indeed initiate massive changes in weather patterns.

In fact, there is good reason to believe that the Sahara is man-made, caused by the consequences of urbanization of the Mesopotamian and Nile valleys. As a result, the temperature plume from North Africa reaches all the way to the Caribbean. Only 6,000 years ago, Saudi Arabia had two rivers across it, one FIVE MILES WIDE, and the other with a 100m deep lake nearly 100 miles across. There are hippopotamus teeth of that age to be found today. The edge of the lake bed and water channels are still clearly discernible. When the base of the Sphinx in Egypt was excavated, scientists were shocked that it was marked with water erosion, not wind and sand. That desert was a stable savannah for 9,000 years prior to the beginning of the Nile Valley civilization. Indeed, 3,000 years prior, the nomadic inhabitants of the Sahara imported Asian livestock.

I am currently retranslating the Cain and Abel story for that very reason, for I believe it chronicles these very events. It appears to me that it is every bit as old as it says it is.

31 posted on 07/22/2011 6:22:17 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: tcrlaf
Our political enemy within.


32 posted on 07/22/2011 6:31:33 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: tcrlaf
>>>>>>Did you ever, and I mean EVER IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, think you would be thanking RUSSIA for standing up to lunatic fringe crap from the United States, in the UN Security Council? <<<<<

Don't forget, this lunatic fringe has the access to the nuclear football. I believe there are strong chances they will use it once they figure out they are broke. Like a high rollers in a seedy gambling joint - when losing, they turn the table and reach for the gun.

Only, The church of climatology is not a fringe - it belongs to the top echelons of world political and economic power. They hoped to tax every living being for breathing through this scam. They hoped to use Chicago Climate Exchange as a tool for that. In their wet dream, CCE would surpass all major stock exchanges combined.

Where is CCE now? Closed silently.

You know why?

Because Ruskies and sunk Copenhagen conference and debunked the scam.

Like zombies, Church of Climatology is creeping back, this time in UNSEC. And again Ruskies killed them off.

Only, Zombies are not giving up. They feed on stupidity of the general electorate. They will strike again.

Preaching of man-made global warming is un-american activity !

33 posted on 07/22/2011 7:11:04 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: SunkenCiv
Post 31 was for you too.
34 posted on 07/22/2011 8:23:02 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: olezip

I think the Obamunist whackos are starting to panic, knowing that the jig is up next year.

While you are distracted by the debt ball, they are trying to ram a whole bunch of things through right now like this, and job-choking regulations on American Companies.


35 posted on 07/22/2011 8:30:45 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: DTA

Some claim that Putin deliberately turned Russian hackers loose on that East Anglia email database with instructions to spread whatever they found there to the four winds. Do you know of any sort of a source for that?


36 posted on 07/22/2011 9:43:02 AM PDT by redroller
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To: redroller
The hacking of the Anglia server was not a problem, it was an easier part. Many groups/individuals could have done it. The issue at hand is how to analyze data in no time. Analysis of thousands of emails was done immediately and it shows that people who were analyzing the contents were experts in the field, not hackers. They found the smoking gun for the fraud right away. It is possible to gather volunteer experts but not in no time. And not in secrecy. The signature is all over the place, someone who is expert in swift analysis of acquired data - i.e industrial espionage. I am sure Putin must have a plausible deniability of all of this.

It really does not matter who did it - the stopping of the fraud is what counts. People behind the fraud are not scammers, they are mass murderers.

37 posted on 07/22/2011 11:43:12 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: eclecticEel

Up is Down....Right is Left....Russia is freer than the US...


38 posted on 07/22/2011 11:45:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nikos1121
It’s like we’ve got a Senior High School president in the WH.

What an insult to Senior High School Presidents.

39 posted on 07/22/2011 12:14:46 PM PDT by houeto
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To: Carry_Okie
Humans can certainly have an effect on our areas, but we cannot change an overall climate. I don't think that were were enough humans in Egypt and Mesopotamia, during that time, to change the entire Sahara area.

There can be more of an effect from one volcano than years of human activity. It might be interesting to check the history of large volcanic eruptions during that timeframe. The effects of sunspots and cosmic rays most certainly affect our climate, the only thing humans can do is learn to adapt to the changes.

40 posted on 07/22/2011 1:15:59 PM PDT by SuziQ
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Humans can certainly have an effect on our areas, but we cannot change an overall climate. I don't think that were were enough humans in Egypt and Mesopotamia, during that time, to change the entire Sahara area.

As I thought you might say.

Sorry, but grazing animals have certainly been that numerous in that region as to be capable of modifying vegetative cover. When that happens, the surface emissivity changes enough to induce a surface temperature change of 40°F. That changes the relative humidity and the dew cycle upon which the grasses depended.

It is REMOVING human animal management that is what can cause desertification on a scale that massive, particularly because the entire equilibrium between a human apex predator and its herbivorous prey is disrupted without anything to mitigate the effect. That land had been under continuous management by people for over 9,000 years prior with no problem. Over that time there were solar-related climate events of far greater magnitude than when that desert commenced. Yet at the very nascence of the Nile Valley culture, there was war between the people of the Valley and the people of that grassland, and we know who lost.

With that loss came the loss of those who knew how to steward that land, whether preventing overgrazing grasses or maintaining shrubs, hunting predators, or running the animals to crush locust eggs. The desertification process began almost immediately and progressed from east to west. To this day, Khnum, the creator god of ancient Egypt, lines the road from Karnak to Luxor. He has a ram's head. The pharaoh ruled with a flail and a crook. Yet it was known from the time of Joseph (and now before) that the rulers of the Nile hated nomadic shepherds, for good reason too. The Hyksos kings were exactly such.

41 posted on 07/22/2011 1:41:49 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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Thanks Carry_Okie.
Yet at the very nascence of the Nile Valley culture, there was war between the people of the Valley and the people of that grassland, and we know who lost.
The wars in the predynastic period (and for most of Egyptian history) were about control of the Nile, which helped bring into being one of the riverine civilizations that lies at the root of all our own histories. The reason nomadic life shrank is because the desertification got worse, not because of the other way around. Even the prehistoric traces of warfare in the area (thousands of stone weapon-heads) were found in the remains of a village which was attacked (or had an internal fight of remarkable proportions) and burned to the ground, and evidently never reoccupied.


42 posted on 07/22/2011 2:33:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
The reason nomadic life shrank is because the desertification got worse, not because of the other way around.

Being on a Near Eastern archaeological academic listserv, I've read a fair number of papers on the topic. Sadly, the agro-urban archaeologists who write them have at best a marginal understanding of hunting cultures or range management in dry environments. Hence, that conclusion is not much more than a presumption upon their part based upon what they can currently measure. Their theories have yet to be examined against the model I'm proposing which is based in soil science and vegetation management as influence climate behavior and what happens when the apex predator changes from a people to other animals. As a modern analogue to the process I'm discussing, check out the Drake Exclosure. Not as much really is known about aboriginal hunter/herdsman cultures as we'd like to think, simply because they leave such an ephemeral footprint. Heck, we're still revising upward the aboriginal numbers here in North America, even though those events were but hundreds instead of thousands of years ago because that information is so sketchy. Steven Simms has done a good job of collecting that information here in North America.

War came later than the events of which I'm speaking as the root causes of desertification. The arrangement of singular and collective plurals Hebrew in Genesis 4:8 speaks of a process of assimilation that eventually killed Abel, one at a time, as Abel became Cain. Instead of a childish story of "don't kill your brother over an offering" it is instead a challenging multi-layered tale that we have missed, because we are Cain.

43 posted on 07/22/2011 2:54:55 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: tcrlaf; newgeezer

So when Communists are in power we get to get back to reality?


44 posted on 07/22/2011 3:00:50 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (My dad put his arm around me like that once, to this very day he wears orthopedic shirts.)
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To: Carry_Okie
>>>>>>>archaeological academic listserv<<<<<

Hm. Do you know how many so called "academics" are nothing but a shills for certain political agenda and whore themselves for the tenure and keeping of their $180K salary. Many are criminals who deliberately spread dangerous lies that are used to justify murder of innocent people. I have seen it on many academic lists. Lists are MODERATED and operate like a wolf pack. Administrators maintain behind the scene communication with the shills who attack any dissenting opinion that exposes fraudulent information. Dissenting posts are severely edited or blocked. So the final result is fine tuned "discussion" that provides false impression of uniform view. It is shameful, but the fact of life. Even Wikipedia often provides more facts than many "academic" liservs.

45 posted on 07/22/2011 4:32:17 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: DTA
Many are criminals who deliberately spread dangerous lies that are used to justify murder of innocent people.

Examples?

46 posted on 07/22/2011 5:42:26 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: DTA
Do you know how many so called "academics" are nothing but a shills for certain political agenda and whore themselves for the tenure and keeping of their $180K salary.

I sure do. I do independent research on my own nickel thank you.

I have seen it on many academic lists. Lists are MODERATED and operate like a wolf pack. Administrators maintain behind the scene communication with the shills who attack any dissenting opinion that exposes fraudulent information. Dissenting posts are severely edited or blocked. So the final result is fine tuned "discussion" that provides false impression of uniform view. It is shameful, but the fact of life.

My point in citing it was that I see quite a bit of the output and am not impressed with what I see in the way of scholarship, much less originality. The correlations I have found, both technical and literary, are so numerous and broad, and all pointing at the same thing, that the model bears serious investigation.

There is absolutely no doubt that removing human animal managers from a landscape can have disastrous consequences for vegetation, either because of overgrazing or (surprising to many) undergrazing. In either extreme thereafter, the desert can propagate like peeling the skin off a banana. Lose the nutrients to the wind and it is very hard to recover. As the process propagates, it can become continental in scale, just as it is doing in the American Southwest. At that point, because of the change in infra-red adsorption on the surface, local weather patterns will reflect the change.

47 posted on 07/22/2011 5:52:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
>>>>>>Examples?<<<<<<<<

Too many to mention.

Do you know who is the guy on the right in the front row?

Picture #1 He and others from German academia set the foundation for Nazism and after the war claimed they were Nazi victims.

Heidelberg Myth gives a good insight into German academic community 1933-1957.

Victims indeed. Their teaching is responsible for setting up the foundation for extermination of 6 million Jews and 20 million Slavs.

How about this academic fraud, the Founding Executive Director and the Anna Lindh Professor of Practice of Global Leadership and Public Policy of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government?

Pic #2 Alleged author of R2P, provided justification for mass murder of Libyans. She merely copied Hitler.

Can you name her? Time magazine named her as one of the 100 top scientists and thinkers.

Do you know who is this?

Pic #3 Professor who taught generations of students that elites should use deception, religious fervor and perpetual war to control ignorant masses. Taught in Hitler's Heidelberg? Nah.He was University of Chicago professor since 1949, called by some one of the most influential teachers in America.

His influence on American political landscape can be seen with the naked eye. He established the culture of impunity for deception. Obummer is the fruit from that poisonous tree.

Can you name him?

48 posted on 07/22/2011 7:19:30 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: Carry_Okie

There were several major catastrophes over the last ten or twelve thousand years, not least of all the Noachean flood. Something like that could have played a part in turning some of the regions you mention into deserts.


49 posted on 07/22/2011 7:47:00 PM PDT by redroller
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To: tcrlaf
" The UNITED STATES wants the United Nations Security Council to declare GLOBAL WARMING/The Religion of Climate Change to be a WORLDWIDE THREAT "

It all comes down to OVER POPULATION.

It's a world wide threat to the elitist's enjoyment of the best things in life here on Earth.

That's what it is all about, the environmental movement was created as a excuse , agenda, and " the means justify the end " way of population control by the New World Order elitist.
It was never, never, never planned to control pollution or the " SAVE THE EARTH " propaganda from the Envirowackos.

They are moving us ever closer and closer to world wide population control, and if you want a hint in what that means, just take a look at the Nationalist Socialist movement called the GERMAN NAZI movement of the 1930's 1940's and see what they did.
In the New World Order elitist folk's mind, this world is full of " Undesirables " who's population needs to be put under control, so the elitists can enjoy the resources of this world that was meant only for them.
The " ENVIRONMENTAL " movement is just a instrument to rid the world of the over population problem in the NWO folk's mind.
50 posted on 08/01/2011 10:38:24 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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