Posted on 07/21/2011 7:07:53 AM PDT by markomalley
On July 3, 1999, The New York Times exposed Al Gore for lying about his family in a national convention speech as vice president of the United States. In 1996, Gore had moved the Democrats to tears by claiming that when his sister Nancy died of cancer in 1984, he vowed then and there to oppose the tobacco industry. How courageous and completely untrue.
The Times found Gore campaigned in 1988 boasting of his tobacco-farming prowess. So he lied through his teeth. Network coverage from ABC, CBS, or NBC on this whopper, even as Gore prepared a presidential run? Zero.
On July 13, 2011, this cycle repeated itself, when The New York Times reported on another national Democrat lying about a death in the family in his convention address, presidential debates, just about everywhere. That was Barack Obama in 2008 claiming his mother Ann Dunham died of cancer battling with insurance companies all the way through. Dramatic? Yes. But an utter lie. Network coverage of this new jaw-dropper on ABC, CBS, and NBC? Also zip, zilch, zero.
How pathetic. This is the same set of networks that devote multiple heavy-breathing stories to correcting non-candidate Sarah Palins historical knowledge of Paul Revere, or Michele Bachmanns location for the birthplace of John Wayne. But Obama lies about his mother a shameless, pandering tug using his mother to get socialized health care, and theyre mute!
In a story published on page 16, reporter Kevin Sack explained The White House on Wednesday declined to challenge an account in a new book that Obama mischaracterized a central anecdote about his mothers deathbed dispute with her insurance company. The headline said the book challenges the Obama story, and in the story they used the word mischaracterized. It was a whole lot more than that.
The new book, by Times reporter Janny Scott, is titled A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obamas Mother. Scott quoted from correspondence from Ann Dunham to assert that the 1995 dispute concerned a Cigna disability insurance policy. Her actual health insurer had reimbursed most of her medical expenses without argument. The Times noted that although candidate Obama often suggested that Dunham was denied health coverage because of a pre-existing condition, it appears from her correspondence that she was only denied disability coverage.
Obama lied to an entire stadium of supporters in his August 28, 2008 convention speech. "As someone who watched my mother argue with insurance companies while she lay in bed dying of cancer, he announced, I will make certain those companies stop discriminating against those who are sick and need care the most.
The same line was declared in the October 7, 2008 presidential debate, carried by all the networks like the convention speech. "For my mother to die of cancer at the age of 53 and have to spend the last months of her life in a hospital room, arguing with insurance companies because they're saying that this may be a preexisting condition and they don't have to pay her treatment, there's something fundamentally wrong about that." (Afterward, the networks brought their outrage to the slight that John McCain had described Obama as that one. They put on focus-group liberals who found the remark picky and childish.)
Obama also mentioned her in a 2007 campaign TV ad: In those last painful months, she was more worried about paying her medical bills than getting well. I hear stories like hers every day.
The Times went to liberal Harvard professor Robert Blendon to pronounce the obvious: if Obamas phony storyline had been discovered during the 2008 campaign people would have considered it a significant error. Or not an error a lie. Blendon added: I just took for granted that it was a pre-existing condition health insurance issue.
So did the entire American news media.
Theres one last interesting tidbit in the Times. Obamas mother wrote to Cigna after they declined her claims that she had turned the case over to my son and attorney, Barack Obama. Scott could not determine from the documents she viewed whether Obama had ever written to Cigna on his mothers behalf. Isnt it interesting in all of Obamas rhetoric about his mothers insurance battles, he always left himself out of the storyline? Did this lawyer son ever get involved?
In the Bush years, media liberals (and even Joe Scarborough) suggested George W. Bush was dangerously stupid because he was so intellectually incurious. Our media are so incurious about the truth behind Obamas often-mythical life story, one might ask Are they dangerously stupid?
Hussein LIES every time his mouth moves. And the msm NEVER cares to challenge him. What’s new?
Leftist = pathological liar.
These jack wagons in the media have vetted Rupert Murdochs wife more in the last 3 days than they did the magic negro over the last 3 years. Same with this Casey Anthony witch...
We here know about this moron in the White House... Most sheeple out there have no clue.
Our problem is the ignorant voters can't understand this. But, then, the ignorant voters don't know squat about anything and don't care.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - - - Sir Winston Churchill
The GOP is losing the PR war big time. Why aren’t the GOP leadership out there pounding the FACTS into the joe 6 packs head on 6pm news every day? Call press conferences, the DB LSM will have to cover some of it.
“Our problem is the ignorant voters can’t understand this. But, then, the ignorant voters don’t know squat about anything and don’t care. “
Even worse... the average American voter thinks that the mainstream media is biased for conservatives! They call it the “corporate media”.
The story never rang true to me. For a pre-existing condition exclusion to apply, a cancer diagnosis would have to have been made before Ann joined the employer who was providing her insurance. Have you ever heard of someone getting an ovarian cancer diagnosis, then going out and getting a new job?
Never mind that the pre-existing exclusions stuff was often waived when an employer took a group policy. Hard to believe the Ford Foundation had anything less than Cadillac insurance.
The enemedia will never face reality: this is someone who makes up stuff all the time.
"Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency." ~Barack Obama
“For my mother to die of cancer at the age of 53 and have to spend the last months of her life in a hospital room, arguing with insurance companies
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
In another thread there is a mention of him whining something like “instead of spending time with her family”
OK the other day I was in Barnes and Nobles and I perused that book for myself ...
Heres what the book has...
Myra was vacationing in Mexico when she called her grandmother Madelaine in Hawaii...
Madelaine told her that her acceptance to I think it was New York State for graduate school had arrived..
So off Myra goes to NY to school...with Haweaii as her permanent home...
Myra actually works her way through grad school...first working in a neighborhood bar and then teaching at a local I think it was a porivate preschool..
Unlike her brother who had everything paid for him...
Meanwhile Stan Ann is in Indonesia and Barry is in Chicago...married to Michelle..
Shortly after this Stan Ann comes to Hawaii very sick and is examined in by a doctor there...
Its cancer and she goes into hospital for a serious operation...
No battles with the insurance company mentioned...
She gets out of hospital and goes to stay with Madelaine to recuperate...
Shes still sick so she and Madelaine go to NYC for tests...
She is poorly and in a wheel chair..
There Myra comes to spend some tiome with Mom and Granny...
Stan Ann must have been able to get around some because she and Myra have some Mom-daughter time together and enjoy the few days taking in the sights...the Staue of Liberty etc...
Stan Ann and Madelaine fly back to Hawaii and Myra continues her studies in NY
As yet Barry has never been to see his Mom...
A few months later Stan Ann is worse and dying so Myra says she will come as soon as the semester is over (her last I think) and she is oblighed by a promise to finish out the school term where she teaches (or something)
A couple of months later Myra comes home to Hawaii for good...
Barry has not even gone to see Stan Ann for a weekend...
a few weeks latewr Stan Ann dies without ever seeinbg her son again...
Right away Barry shows up in Hawaii for the funeral and Indonesian memorial and to chuck his Moms ashes in the ocean..
Thought he could never get away...
So if you pictured Barry weeping in the corner of the hospital room as his mothers attention was taken up by bad insurance companies and sonny could tell his beloved Mommy bye, youve got the wrong impression...
Fore the last year of Stan Snns life Barry yukked it up in Chicago 100s of miles from his dying Mom...
BTW when Madelaine was dying he did much the same thing...
He did go to Hawaii in her last dsays but he spent more time campaigning and playing golf and if he ever went near the dying grandmother it was for only a brief one time visit during the days he was there
HOWEVER he managed to make a big thing over her ashes also...
Suchis the behavior of a malignant narcissist.
I’d love to see flyers, with all this information, dumped by plane all over the country — especially in inner cities.
There, that's better ...
If only Bozell had you around, to explain that Obama doesn’t lie hardly at all, if ever. Or so you have claimed to me, countless times. Do you have another rationalization for this lie, or will you say this is the rare exception, and that Obama doesn’t lie as a rule, just once in a blue moon?
Suchis the behavior of a malignant narcissist.
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agreed.
...another whopper, is that according to his “autobiography” written by Ayers,
his cruel Father abandoned him and his poor sainted mother.
yet just weeks after the birth, she left for University in Washington State.
While Obama Sr remained in Hawaii, and finished his degree.
Everything I posted was the absolute truth. Go back in your own posting history and reread the posts you’ve made to me. It’s all there in black and white, and since you can’t delete it, it speaks for itself.
Stop with the insults, too. I’m not a radical lefist marxist liberal, nor do I ‘act like’ one. Stop smearing me with that charge; it’s uncouth, untrue and unbecoming.
Btw, I pinged you to a discussion of Obama’s lies. Are you going to wait until the thread dies, to join in and explain to everyone that Obama doesn’t lie per se at all, according to what you have explicitly posted to me?
It was not an outright lie, but it wasn't the absolute truth, either. Like Obama often does to his opponents, you misrepresented my position and lied by omission. But you don't seem capable of comprehending such subtlties.
BTW, I have found several examples of outright lies by Obama, the one linked to in this article being the most recent one, so my position has changed a bit.
Still, outright lies by Obama, though the occur from time to time, aren't all that common. Most of the time, like you, he either lies by omission or misrepresents the truth, rather than deliberately misstate fact.
So you never mocked me for calling Obama a liar? [Check your posting history—you’ve done it repeatedly.]
You never told me I don’t even know what marxism is? [Check your posting history—you did it.]
You haven’t repeatedly defended Obama from the charge of marxist? [Check your posting history—it’s all there.]
So roughly how many lies to you think Obama has told? Two? Three? Half a dozen?
You just can’t post to me without calling me stupid, can you? You know who accuses conservatives of being incapable of comprehending nuances?
I think you do.
Also, if you still can't comprehent the difference between a Marxist and a European-style social democrat, then there's really no point in me discussing anything with you.
A while back, you asked to me never to direct a post to you or ping you, and I honored that request, until you posted something to me. I now ask the same of you: never direct another post to me again, and please never ping me again. I have no desire to converse with you, as you are a complete waste of time.
My questions were simple, honest and straightforward. You answered none of them, but simply leveled more accusations re: what you consider my stupidity. What is conservative about that kind of answer?
Since the exchange you mentioned, I’ve watched you mock other FReepers that are good conservatives, and whom I hold in high regard. That is why I pinged you.
That, and the fact that the owner of this site has since that time deemed Obama a marxist. I remain curious as to why you’ve mocked me for the same charge, but leave him alone.
Any insights to offer?
Not to you, since you are obviously unwilling or incapable of comprehending them. This is my last post to you. Never ping me again.
I can see why you refuse to comment. Telling me I’m stupid for calling Obama a marxist can be done without repercussion. Telling JR he’s ignorant for saying the same thing will probably get you zotted.
Bid difference, isn’t it?
My question is: Is it liberal elite guilt toward blacks, media bias or group-think hatred of conservatives that's causing this one?
I know you are not addressing me, but I just couldn't resist giving you an answer:
All of the above!
Ding, ding, ding - we have a winnah!
Curiosity is a troll. A romneybot that was pissed Romney didn’t get the nomination in 2008. Rather then vote for McCain, he or she voted for Mr. I Won. Since 12/2008, curiosity has done nothing on FR except try to defend the O Jug ears birth certificate, SS#, and everything else.... in other words, an OBOT. Past posts tell the real story.
Omc—is it true? Did you really support Romney? Why on earth? What did you like about him?
Surely you didn’t actually vote for Obama. You couldn’t possibly have been that deluded, could you?—say it ain’t so!
[Okay, actually I believe it. Given how fiercely you defended Obama here for quite a while, it seems immanently likely you did indeed vote for him. That explains so much!]
The real question is why such trolls are allowed on FR. For years.
I am scratching my head. Some mysteries are too deep for me. I wish FR allowed us to give out awards to certain posters. For the Most Arrogant and Condescending Award, curiosity would have no rivals. None.
Because they fly well below the radar, post on threads where they think they won’t be noticed, and tell people that bust them to never post to them again and hope that they comply.
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