Posted on 07/05/2011 7:27:58 AM PDT by freebird5850
Morning all, didn't see a thread for today so I created one.
That "gut" feeling is called reason and logic, a quality a lot of Freepers appear to lack.
From another post:A nice, clean gotcha with the DNA and intact body absolves the jury from having to think too much and actually assess what really happened. It also makes them feel good because they didn’t have to make a tough decision. It was easier this way.
Worth repeating.
I am sure her new buddy, Sean Hannity, will book her for his show.
That remains an unsupported conspiracy theory.
I pray I never find myself on that kind of jury. The prosecution came up with a great and probably true theory, but just not a lot of evidence to back it up. Certainly the child was dumped in the swamp, and probably murdered, but by whom? The mother's certainly guilty of something, but what? How much evidential weight does the defendant's demeanor carry?
I am sure her new buddy, Sean Hannity, will book her for his show.
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Yep, Hannity pretends a bunch of chit. I am SO done with FOX, as long as they think Geraldo is special and good—I’m done.
hate, hate, hate Geraldo. Beck is gone and Geraldo is there? I’m done until mustache man is gone, gone, gone. Stinky boy.
With my tin foil hat on, I just had a strange thought.
When I first heard the verdict read, I was in TOTAL disbelief. ALL TWELVE jurors voted NOT GUILTY?? I kept hearing on the coverage how people were ALMOST CONSTANTLY hearing this jury LAUGHING while they were asked to leave the courtroom for brief periods in a room off of the main courtroom.
IMHO, it made it sound to me that they were becoming a “close knit unit”.
I got to thinking, what if they became REAL close with each other to the point of “covering” for each other?
It only would have taken ONE or more jurors to hang up the jury and give Casey Anthony a “Not Guilty” verdict. The problem with that happening is when the jury is “polled” at the end, those jurors would have to say to the WORLD that it was THEIR vote that did not convict Casey.
If there were one or a couple more “Not Guilty” jurors, those jurors would have REALLY had a problem for not convicting Casey when if not for their vote, Casey would have been found guilty.
If the jurors KNEW that they were hopelessly deadlocked, which means a 11-1, 10-2, 9-3 etc actual jury “poll” would expose and single out those “Not Guilty” jurors to nationwide (and maybe even internationally to) wrath and ridicule from those who thought Casey guilty, they ALL made a deal??
What if the jury became so tight, that they decided that since it only would actually take only ONE juror to make Casey “Not Guilty”, to cover for those one or more who were in the “Not Guilty” camp, the jury made “deal” to ALL vote “Not Guilty” to conceal the vote or votes of the actual “Not Guilty” ones???
IMHO, I consider it a STRONG possibility.
More than 4000 potential jurors were interviewed and excused. I think it is outrageous that nobody wanted to serve on this jury. I think the oourts ought to tighten up their procedures and not be so free with the excuses.
I heard Levin last night.
He actually said that “the strand of hair” was 30 feet from the car in the house. That the state had no case.
I am DISGUSTED by Levin that he didn’t even know the evidence, and goes on national radio to criticize the prosecution of this case. He said he hadn’t followed this case, and just read up on it.
I am convinced that we, as a country, no longer possess critical thinking skills.
Casey’s Car, decomposition in trunk of Casey’s car, Casey’s abandoned car, Casey claiming to be in Tampa, Jacksonville with car, no sightings by ANYONE of Caylee, Casey lies, lies, lies, screaming Grandmother on phone with police of missing grandchild and smell of death in car, duct taped-skeletonized-Caylee found in swampy woods near home. Casey Anthony failing to report child missing.
Gee, I wonder what Casey’s involvment was. extreme sarcasm
To believe that THIS jury could not even find Casey Anthony guilty on a count of child neglect is beyond comprehension.
I’m not saying Wendy Murphy did not say what she said, I’m saying she’s usually “out there” by herself and usually wrong.
Can you imagine the usual suspects in the talking-head crowd falling all over themselves to be the *first* one to interview her. Anything connected to CA from now and into the future will be a circus. Pity the child.
Baez did not argue that a body had NEVER been in the car. His argument was WHEN the body was in the car. In fact at closing he conceded the fact the car may have been used at some time to transport a body.
Neither. They were just a remarkedly uncurious lot. They don't watch the news.; they don't read the newspaper. I'll bet that most of them could tell you about the latest movie star, or whatever piques the interest of the average Joe Blow. I don't live in FL, and I can tell you that I know a lot about this case. You couldn't miss the news coverage any place in this country if you read a newspaper, or watched even 10 minutes of news per day. The jury selection system chose this group by requiring them to know nothing.
Unfortunately, these are the same people who vote for Obama. It's discouraging.
>>To believe that THIS jury could not even find Casey Anthony guilty on a count of child neglect is beyond comprehension.
After looking at the shocked faces of the talking heads and even my neighbors and family members, it seems unlikely that grabbing 12 random folks in the streets would get 12 guilty votes. Is it possible that the 12 weren’t random? Most probable they all voted for Obama.
What you wrote!
Well lets just get rid of evidence and the burden of proof and the 5th amendment. We should also get rid of the jury system. Having a jury system and all these burdens on the state really sucks. We will also repeal the 9th amendment. Those damned amendments are what caused this mess. I say we go to tv trials with no burden on the state to prove anything. I think the defendants should be guilty unless they can prove otherwise. I am with you. Lets get em. we should never have to listen to slick defense lawyers either. Why have our tax money defend these crooks? Firing squads are cheap and we won’t even have to house these enemies of the state.
Right on lets get the damn jury. They probably are too stupid to be allowed to serve. Lets get rid of our outdated Constitution while we are at it. With juries that try to follow it someone might fall through the cracks and it costs way too much for us to have to pay for crooked defense lawyers. Those jurors should be tracked down and hung from the nearest tree. And that damn city of Clearwater. It is their fault too. That is where these people were from. Not only that we had to pay to keep them away from the media. Ridiculous only in the media could we find the truth in this country. The reason they did this to us is they were not allowed to see the media case. It is unencumbered by the damned Constitution. It is much more emotionally fulfilling than the stinking court system. Hell this verdict can not even be appealed by the state. If it were not for the Constitution we could have another trial and get better jurors. Forget those stinking double jeopardy rules. We ought be able to try that Witch until we get smart jurors.
I am with you. We don’t need no stinking evidence. That little girl was found in a Swamp. Who cares how she died. She is dead. All mothers whose kids are found dead in a Swamp should be executed immediately by firing squad or even by letting us Stone them to death. Think how much fun that would be. Besides that look at the cost in tax money when we have to pay for the police work. I like mob rule much better. Who cares if a few innocent people are killed along with those disgusting people. It is a small price to pay.
“so what are the chances that all 12 are complete morally bankrupt idiots”
You misunderstood my post. My point was that they could be EITHER an idiot OR morally bankrupt (voting not guilty to punish the prosecution). Having “OR” as an option instead of “AND” makes an outcome MORE LIKELY, not LESS LIKELY.
“why would THEY come up with this verdict if they didn’t believe it?”
I think they did believe it. Therefore, I conclude they are “innumerate”, and have a poor understanding that a chain of unlikely events creates an impossibility. Lack of understanding this is a VERY COMMON fallacy that even otherwise intelligent people succumb to.
It was not my opinion that they were voting guilty to punish the prosecution. That was the opinion of another poster based on an interview with an alternate juror, which I did not see. In my post, I was simply pointing out that both of us could be right. While I believe most of the jurors just couldn’t do the math, maybe she’s right that one or two were just punishing the prosecution. (For what, I’m not sure. Making them miss their family’s 4th of July celebration?) I’m with you I don’t like to believe that, but I was being gracious and conceding the possibility, since I didn’t see the interview that opinion was based on.
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That pretty much sums up his TV show too!
(But I’d perhaps listen to what Morris and Gingrich had to say.)
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